This season's patriots are the first SB loser to return the next year since Buffalo ... and Buffalo ... and BuffaloThat's a damn long time
This season's patriots are the first SB loser to return the next year since Buffalo ... and Buffalo ... and BuffaloThat's a damn long time
There have been a greater number of teams who lost the super bowl the year after winning it, however.When was the last time a team won the Super Bowl after losing it the previous year? If the Pats win Sunday, in a way it might be the most impressive thing they have accomplished over the last 18 years. And that's saying something. Simply put, teams fall apart after losing Super Bowls.
This is amazing in itself, that was 25 years agoThis season's patriots are the first SB loser to return the next year since Buffalo ... and Buffalo ... and Buffalo
The 2015 Broncos were a miracle champion. So so so so many things had to go right for them to get there.Other than the Broncos, the losing SB team has pretty much just faded away, none of them have even made it back. The last teams to lose a Super Bowl and then make it back to another were totally different teams by the time they made it back (Seattle 2005 - 2013, Philly 2004 - 2017, Carolina 2003 - 2015).
Edit: Oh, and the Rams 2001 - 2018 of course. Interesting that the Pats were involved in either the first or 2nd (or both) matchups all four times.
It has happened twice, in consecutive years.
Dallas lost SB V, won SB VI. Miami lost SB VI and won SB VII
XLVI years ago.That's a damn long time
The Pats of course also lost the 2011 Super Bowl and returned (victoriously!) for the 2014 one.Other than the Broncos, the losing SB team has pretty much just faded away, none of them have even made it back. The last teams to lose a Super Bowl and then make it back to another were totally different teams by the time they made it back (Seattle 2005 - 2013, Philly 2004 - 2017, Carolina 2003 - 2015).
Edit: Oh, and the Rams 2001 - 2018 of course. Interesting that the Pats were involved in either the first or 2nd (or both) matchups all four times.
Yes, I didn't really finish my thought, but the Pats lost in 2007, made it back in 2011 and again in 2014. Lost again last year and made it back again this year. They are an outlier in this regard just like in so many others.The Pats of course also lost the 2011 Super Bowl and returned (victoriously!) for the 2014 one.
Oh, absolutely. The new free agency system in '93 (?) totally changed the landscape.Different NFL with free agency etc.
Since this is only the 3rd time that a team has made 3 straight Super Bowls (Miami: L, W, W and Buffalo: L, L, L, L) that's a pretty safe bet.I’m gonna assume no one has ever won a Super Bowl, lost the next one, and won the one after that.
I was pretty sick of the Bills by the end of all of that, but in retrospect, it is pretty impressive that they were able to have that run when it seems like many teams would just crater after something like the Norwood miss -- the first and only of those games where they really should have won it.This season's patriots are the first SB loser to return the next year since Buffalo ... and Buffalo ... and Buffalo
What's also amazing is that we don't hear about other teams doing similar things. I mean, practicing with wet footballs is not exactly a genius maneuver.So true. They are just better. It sometimes amazes me when other teams actually beat them. Seriously.
Think about how thin the margin is in so many of these games. That 2% might be all the difference in the world over these last 18 years.What's also amazing is that we don't hear about other teams doing similar things. I mean, practicing with wet footballs is not exactly a genius maneuver.
I can't imagine 31 other teams allow players to come in late or run soft, slow practices all the time.
I guess it's the case of most teams are doing things 90-98% "right" and that extra 2% makes the difference in the handful of plays that decide close games.
Many of the Pats’ Brady playoff losses have been result of being phyisically overwhelmed, typically at the line or just being at a big talent disadvantage (2013 Broncos or 2006 Colts due to the illnesses). Last year was tough to take because it felt like the first playoff loss in a while where the other team didn’t physically overwhelm us but merely out-executed.So true. They are just better. It sometimes amazes me when other teams actually beat them. Seriously.
Agreed. But as has been proven time and again - other methods are not sustainable in the long haul.Many of the Pats’ Brady playoff losses have been result of being phyisically overwhelmed, typically at the line or just being at a big talent disadvantage (2013 Broncos or 2006 Colts due to the illnesses). Last year was tough to take because it felt like the first playoff loss in a while where the other team didn’t physically overwhelm us but merely out-executed.
I enjoyed your conclusion.Not sure where else to put this but I’ve been watching the 2003 AFCCG the last few days. Hell of a fun game. But I had completely forgotten how bad of a decision Tony Dungy made late in the 4th. Down by 14 with 2:30 to play, the Colts scored a TD to bring it within 7. They had all 3 timeouts and the two minute warning left. Their D hadn’t played awesome, but it was hanging in there. And Saint Dungy called a “surprise” onsides kick. The Pats of course were not fooled in the least, easily recovered, then went 3 and out. So the Colts got it back on their own 20 after a touchback instead of sat 20-30 yards better field position.
The moral, as always, is fuck Tony Dungy.
The problem with the Bills wasn't that they were always in the Super Bowl. The problem was, for three straight games, after the Giants one, the Super Bowls were absolutely terrible games.I was pretty sick of the Bills by the end of all of that, but in retrospect, it is pretty impressive that they were able to have that run when it seems like many teams would just crater after something like the Norwood miss -- the first and only of those games where they really should have won it.
That was also a period, IIRC, where it seemed that each year the top 3 NFC teams would have all looked dominant in the AFC side of the bracket.
Watching 'Hard Knocks' is a wonderful way to appreciate what Belichick does with the Pats. This season was more stark than most, the Browns' training camp under Hugh Jackson was a total dumpster fire of lackadaisical practices, inattention to detail, divided coaching approaches and warring personalities.What's also amazing is that we don't hear about other teams doing similar things. I mean, practicing with wet footballs is not exactly a genius maneuver.
I can't imagine 31 other teams allow players to come in late or run soft, slow practices all the time.
I guess it's the case of most teams are doing things 90-98% "right" and that extra 2% makes the difference in the handful of plays that decide close games.
For as incredible as Brady has been, and he's been one of a kind, his goal line INTs in the playoffs have all been pretty horrific, and there have been a bunch of them, including in the last game versus KC. But I hope that KC pick got it out of his system.He threw a bad pick in the end zone of the 2003 AFCCG as well, with the Pats up 14 in the 4th quarter where a FG would have effectively iced the game.
Of course the Champ Bailey play, which I wouldn't rate as that horrible of a play by Brady. Ditto the Robert Alford pick. The first Seattle pick was awful too.
But yeah that was a really bad pick.
True, although watching the Peyton Manning breakdown, I don't rate that pick quite as badly.For as incredible as Brady has been, and he's been one of a kind, his goal line INTs in the playoffs have all been pretty horrific, and there have been a bunch of them, including in the last game versus KC. But I hope that KC pick got it out of his system.
It was actually on a screen pass, he floated it over the intended receiver (Woodhead I think) right into the Jets defender's hands.Also not right on goal line and not in SB but he threw a real head scratcher of a pick against the Jets in the playoffs one year, I think on the 1st drive of the game when the Pats were moving nicely down the field.
Everyone blames Chung for the failed fake punt, and it was a big play, but the pick as well as the Crumpler drop were bigger plays IMO. The Pats easily marched the field a couple times early only to come away with 3 points. Could have easily had 14.It was Law Firm, not Woodhead. Ugh. That as awful
Going back over the years, the only two games the Pats lost in the playoffs that were really never in doubt was that game against the Ravens when it was 21-0 after about 33 seconds of game clock and that game in Denver in January of 2014. The Pats just weren't that good that year and they probably would have gotten smoked by Seattle anyway.Everyone blames Chung for the failed fake punt, and it was a big play, but the pick as well as the Crumpler drop were bigger plays IMO. The Pats easily marched the field a couple times early only to come away with 3 points. Could have easily had 14.
Yes yes and yesThat Jets game was the most irritating loss as far as I’m concerned. Others were worse, but none have just left me annoyed like that one. Ugh. It just felt like they couldn’t get out of their own way against a team they should have killed and then had a good path to the SB.
Wasn’t that the game where they kept talking about brady’s No INT streak and he broke it in the worst possible way? Jesus. More than any game I recall it really struck the “wait this is bullshit press the reset button because this shouldn’t happen” chord.
Wrong year. Not long after 45-3.and not long after the Butt Fumble Blowout, IIRc
Everyone blames Chung for the failed fake punt, and it was a big play, but the pick as well as the Crumpler drop were bigger plays IMO. The Pats easily marched the field a couple times early only to come away with 3 points. Could have easily had 14.
Absolutely, I think about that game all the time. Obviously nothing will ever match the abject despair after the Scottish Game. But the fact that the 2010 Pats had beaten all four Conference Championship teams (Packers, Bears, Steelers, Jets) grinds my gears.That Jets game was the most irritating loss as far as I’m concerned. Others were worse, but none have just left me annoyed like that one. Ugh. It just felt like they couldn’t get out of their own way against a team they should have killed and then had a good path to the SB.
Wasn’t that the game where they kept talking about brady’s No INT streak and he broke it in the worst possible way? Jesus. More than any game I recall it really struck the “wait this is bullshit press the reset button because this shouldn’t happen” chord.