This is a great stat.It just occurred to me that the Patriots scored four touchdowns without a single successful XP kick (miss, 2-pt, 2-pt, walkoff). I wonder if that has ever happened before.
You're not alone, and apparently it has happened. Eagles did it in a game where kicks were too risky because of snow.It just occurred to me that the Patriots scored four touchdowns without a single successful XP kick (miss, 2-pt, 2-pt, walkoff). I wonder if that has ever happened before.
Can't remember the exact timing (think it was after the Falcons scored to go up 28-3), Matt Ryan was sporting a perfect QBR (158.3)Another indication that it was a strange game.
This is a great stat.
I looked it up, and the Patriots tied the record for most points without a PAT since the merger. The other game featured five touchdowns, and a mostly incomprehensible series of Chip Kelly and Jim Schwartz trading two point conversion attempts for some reason (eight in all).
I love this place. You guys rock.You're not alone, and apparently it has happened. Eagles did it in a game where kicks were too risky because of snow.
Whoops, that should have been the 2003 Stanley Cup (NJ Devils), not an NBA title. Good catch.New York area doesn't have an NBA championship in the last 5 decades, let alone the 21st century.
Brady gave the "truck" away again, to James White I just heard. James is also going to Disney World. Think Tom can afford to give away these things.The Dion Lewis game
The Chris Hogan game
The James White game
So awesome to have 3 different under the radar guys breakout on the national stage. Not to mention Edelman was nails in all 3 and big contributions from Dola, Marty, MM, et al. Such a characteristically Patriot run.
Somewhere around a decade ago, Brady told the NFL doctors and trainers to get their hands off him, the same way he told Goodell to get his hands off his reputation. In 2008, he underwent knee surgery that was complicated by a staph infection that required a second surgery, six weeks of antibiotics and wound washes. His shoulder hurt, too. “When I was 25, I was hurting all the time, and I could never have imagined playing this long,” Brady said.
Much of the credit for his remarkable longevity goes, whether anyone likes it or not, to the fact that he sought out an unconventional Eastern-medicine masseuse-trainer, Alex Guerrero, at whom NFL doctors look askance. Brady has been mocked, and Guerrero has been called a quack and a fraud, because of a dicey past in which he made extravagant claims about unproven products. But much of what he and Brady have done makes nothing but sense. NFL weight-training was hurting his joints and robbing him of flexibility, and the food he was eating was inflammatory and making him stiff.
Brady now consumes no dairy, white sugar or white flour. He uses resistance bands and anti-gravity treadmills and focuses as much on pliability as strength. He meditates and does yoga. What’s more, he has steered about half the team to Guerrero’s care, to the consternation of NFL medical staff. “I’m 39, and I never hurt,” Brady says. “My arm never hurts, and my body never hurts. I know how to take care of it. . . . Hopefully I can keep passing that message on to a lot of young athletes.”
Sound FX "Super Bowl LI" Wednesday at 5 Pacific, probably 8 Eastern.Game being replayed tonight at 8 on NFLN
Thanks, just set DVR. Indeed, 8PM EST.Sound FX "Super Bowl LI" Wednesday at 5 Pacific, probably 8 Eastern.
Does someone here have the means to put this online for all of us outside the US?Sound FX "Super Bowl LI" Wednesday at 5 Pacific, probably 8 Eastern.
I love that White is being showered with praise after an amazing performance. Was unfairly maligned after last year's AFCCG.I love what Brady said about James White:
"White is like my oldest son," Brady said at Monday's victor news conference. "He just does everything right and you can never get mad at him because even if he doesn't make the play, he feels worse about it than you do. He's just the best teammate. He's an incredible player. He's been that way since he really assumed that big role when Dion got hurt last year. I'm so proud of him and everything he's accomplished. I've seen him grow from a rookie to working his tail off to become a big factor in all of these games.
And Brady gave him the truckI love what Brady said about James White:
"White is like my oldest son," Brady said at Monday's victor news conference. "He just does everything right and you can never get mad at him because even if he doesn't make the play, he feels worse about it than you do. He's just the best teammate. He's an incredible player. He's been that way since he really assumed that big role when Dion got hurt last year. I'm so proud of him and everything he's accomplished. I've seen him grow from a rookie to working his tail off to become a big factor in all of these games.
Bullshit. Bomani Jones told me earlier that Brady doesn't get a lot of credit for the comeback because he was the reason they were losing and he had to throw 937 passes to get all those yards.
The "Drive for 5" culminated in 5 straight scoring drives
After the AFC Championship Game last year, I don't think any amount of pressure could rattle Brady. Him leading that comeback (although coming up 1 play short) after the beating he took went incredibly underreported. He got brutalized last year and kept getting up.Another thing I think is really impressive about the Super Bowl is that the 39-year old was out there for an unprecedented number of plays and took a beating all night and still kept getting up and dominating.
Wasn't the most recent wisdom from other teams' perspective that all you had to do to get to Brady was put a little pressure on him? Looks to me like that one doesn't work, either.
On every single play. The pressure evaporated in the second half.Wasn't the most recent wisdom from other teams' perspective that all you had to do to get to Brady was put a little pressure on him? Looks to me like that one doesn't work, either.
Whoops. Replied to Youkelele on the last page and didn't see you had it covered. Wish I hadn't seen the note about the snow. It would be much funnier to imagine Chip Kelly going for two every time and spooking Jim Schwartz into thinking he's being outsmarted so he just starts going for it every time, too.This is a great stat.
I looked it up, and the Patriots tied the record for most points without a PAT since the merger. The other game featured five touchdowns, and a mostly incomprehensible series of Chip Kelly and Jim Schwartz trading two point conversion attempts for some reason (eight in all).
After the fact it felt a bit like the pressure let up, but even on the last drive of regulation Brady was getting driven into the turf and had plenty of rushed passes. The line held up, but it did not give him a quarter, let alone a half of clean pockets. In the back end of the game it was that Brady and his receivers were incredible at connecting in some extremely high pressure situations, and not just the Edelman play. From Amendola's 2 pt conversion to Mitchell's 3rd and long to Hogan's big catch on the right sideline to White multiple plays, there were many, many tight windows with little time. Almost any of them, as a drop, could have foiled the comeback. I mean, goodness, the pressure on the Amendola 2 pt conversion is just incredible.On every single play. The pressure evaporated in the second half.
I would just break them out into four larger groupings of:The Brady/Belichick era now has several distinct periods.
2001-2004 "The First Dynasty"
3 Division Titles, 3 first round byes, 3 AFC Championships, 3 Super Bowl wins
2005-2006 "Transition"
2 Division Titles, 1 AFC Championship Game appearance
2007-2009 "Welker/Moss"
2 Division Titles, 1 first round bye,1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Appearance
2010-2013 "Boston TE Party"
4 Division Titles, 4 first round byes, 3 AFC Championship appearances, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Appearance
2014-????
3 Division Titles, 3 first round byes, 3 AFC Championship appearances, 2 AFC Championships, 2 Super Bowl Titles
Just nuts.
They actually did attempt one kick (which failed) in that game. It looks like a successful 2pt conversion was negated and replayed due to a false start penalty against the offense. After moving the ball back 5 yards to the 7, they tried a kick and missed. I'm picking nits, though--combined, the teams were going for 2 after every touchdown, and went 4 for 8 (3 of 7 officially).You're not alone, and apparently it has happened. Eagles did it in a game where kicks were too risky because of snow.
Russell Wilson playing at 40 seems like the best shot IMO.15 years between two Super Bowl MVPs is another "record" (stat) that will be very hard to duplicate unless science ends up allowing players to play longer than they currently do in the future.
Eli theoretically has a shot I guess if he plays to 42, but then again Brady may not be done.
Even better, a 39 year old Malcolm Smith.Russell Wilson playing at 40 seems like the best shot IMO.
One factor that would be pretty tough to quantify in making this comparison is the amount of information available and the level of sophistication of how professional sports teams were run back then compared to how things work today. Red was basically a one-man front office and coaching staff. It's still pretty much unthinkable that the Celtics didn't stumble or run into some plain old bad luck somewhere along the line in one or two of those championship years. But in terms of BB and Red, I think it is actually more amazing how much better Belichick is than everyone else right now compared to how much better Red was than the other guys in the 60s.So, I was wondering how the Patriots' dynasty stacks up against the Bill Russell-era Celtics. 11 championships in 13 years is a pretty ridiculous accomplishment, but the Celtics played in a smaller league (8 or 9 teams for most of their run).
Anyways, the probability of doing what the Celtics did, assuming even odds for all the teams in the league, is 1 in 40 billion.
So, I didn't bother with the Patriots' numbers.
Side note -- I'm still annoyed at Belichick for running the ball on the third-and-long just before the Rams' last touchdown. The difference between 2 minutes and 2 1/2 minutes for the Greatest Show on Turf was meaningless. Convert the first down and the Pats could have taken a knee and walked out as 17-10 victors.Super Bowl 36 - The Patriots are reeling, having given up 14 straight points in the fourth quarter to the surging Rams. Madden says they should hold and play for OT. Brady drives them 53 yards in 1:14, setting up Vinatieri's game-winning field goal.