Pro Bowl Rosters

[E5 Yaz]

Brady, Hightower, McCourty and Slater selected to the game for which they'll be too busy to play in

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000760503/article/nfl-announces-2017-pro-bowl-rosters

 

[riboflav]

So, off the top of my head, no Bulter, no Blount.

 

[pappymojo]

No one from the vastly improved offensive line.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

No Butler makes me happy. Last thing we need is "two straight Pro Bowls" in the negotiation.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Give it a few weeks so forty or so guys can decline. They'll end up 'on the team'.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

Brandon Graham not being selected is a joke, as is Fletcher Cox being selected.

 

[Gunfighter 09]

Reggie Nelson did not deserve to make the Pro Bowl. Jamaize Olawale certainly deserved to make it, if you make room for the fullback position in the pro bowl.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

LGBT is a good dude having a great career but he doesn't deserve to be there over Murray, McCoy, or Bell. I'm fine with that.

You can make an argument for Butler but its not some injustice that he was left out given the four guys who made the team.

I think McCourty is riding on reputation to some degree at this point. I'm not sure he is even the best safety on the team right now, much less one of the two best in the AFC.

Marty is probably hurt by being perceived as the "other TE" in New England but he deserves to go ahead of Delanie Walker. His raw receiving numbers aren't much worse than Walker's (one fewer TD and about 100 fewer yards) and he is a far better blocker.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Ugh, Hightower didn't deserve to make it this season and his agent is gonna bring that up, no doubt. I would have left off Hightower, added Butler over Talib, and I have to think Cannon has been a top RT this season, but these are often reputation things and they only select three T overall.

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

Ugh, Hightower didn't deserve to make it this season and his agent is gonna bring that up, no doubt. I would have left off Hightower, added Butler over Talib, and I have to think Cannon has been a top RT this season, but these are often reputation things and they only select three T overall.

Agree and think these are mostly meaningless, but I think it was Madden who originally said that guys generally make it two years too late and stay on two years too long.

 

[Curt S Loew]

Give it a few weeks so forty or so guys can decline. They'll end up 'on the team'.

I certainly hope not. That would mean that they are playing in the game.

 

[KiltedFool]

LGBT is a good player but not a good dude. But the RB selections for the Pro Bowl are justified IMHo.

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

Interesting that the Raiders had the most AFC players, with 7...and even more that the Falcons had the most NFC players, with 6.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I certainly hope not. That would mean that they are playing in the game.

That's why I put it in quotes. I mentioned it in a another thread, but the people who get to claim they were a Pro Bowler rise in number every year. Last year 43 players declined the invitation. 14 of those were Panthers or Broncos, but some of those guys were alternates in their own right. Someone will back out and they start moving down the list. And whether they are free to play in the game or not, they most likely will decline. It's becoming a meaningless notation. Jamies Winston made it last year - a rookie that was something like the eighth alternate and finished 28th in passer rating.

 

[The Needler]

That's why I put it in quotes. I mentioned it in a another thread, but the people who get to claim they were a Pro Bowler rise in number every year. Last year 43 players declined the invitation. 14 of those were Panthers or Broncos, but some of those guys were alternates in their own right. Someone will back out and they start moving down the list. And whether they are free to play in the game or not, they most likely will decline.

I could be wrong, but I think if you are an alternate and decline, you don't technically get to call yourself one. I think it's just the originals, and alternates who actually dress.

 

[Curt S Loew]

I could be wrong, but I think if you are an alternate and decline, you don't technically get to call yourself one. I think it's just the originals, and alternates who actually dress.

Yeah, that was my point. They kinda have to accept their invitation as alternates to be listed as Pro Bowlers. My hope is that none of the Patriots have that opportunity.

 

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

Jeff Howe: LeGarrette Blount on Pro Bowl snub: "It would be a nice thing to be honored for, but I wouldn’t plan on playing in it anyway."

 

[lexrageorge]

LGBT is a good player but not a good dude. But the RB selections for the Pro Bowl are justified IMHo.

May I ask how you know this? Honest question.

 

[Marciano490]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/how-matt-light-tricked-drunk-patriots-safety-to-drop-his-pro-bowl-bar-tab-on-bill-belichick-212138367.html

This story is hilarious.

 

[mwonow]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/how-matt-light-tricked-drunk-patriots-safety-to-drop-his-pro-bowl-bar-tab-on-bill-belichick-212138367.html

This story is hilarious.

Still laughing - that's great!

 

[kenneycb]

The Big Bang Clock is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Easily the most surprising part of that story is that Brandon Meriweather was at the Pro Bowl. Playing, even.

 

[KiltedFool]

May I ask how you know this? Honest question.

Steelers fan. Four year veteran in the car with 2nd year Le'Veon Bell when they were pulled over and cited for marijuana possession and DUI. With the Steelers he was mad he wasn't getting enough touches, so he left the field before the end of Steelers-Titans. Released several days later. So in my book he's talented but an ass.

 

[Reverend]

Steelers fan. Four year veteran in the car with 2nd year Le'Veon Bell when they were pulled over and cited for marijuana possession and DUI. With the Steelers he was mad he wasn't getting enough touches, so he left the field before the end of Steelers-Titans. Released several days later. So in my book he's talented but an ass.

This is so fucking funny it hurts.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

May I ask how you know this? Honest question.

He has had at least one, and I think more than one, arrests for domestic violence. He has been arrested for pot, which is less of a big deal but I think he was driving. I could be wrong about the driving, but you can google this pretty easily. He is a shitbag. Right now the RB position in the NFL seems to be at an all time high for guys who like to hit women.

 

[Ed Hillel]

He has had at least one, and I think more than one, arrests for domestic violence. He has been arrested for pot, which is less of a big deal but I think he was driving. I could be wrong about the driving, but you can google this pretty easily. He is a shitbag. Right now the RB position in the NFL seems to be at an all time high for guys who like to hit women.

A. Blount has never been arrested for domestic abuse. He did cold cock an opponent after the game in college, but, as far as we know, he isn't a woman abuser.

B. Bell was driving.

[Y]ou can google this pretty easily.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

A. Blount has never been arrested for domestic abuse. He did cold cock an opponent after the game in college, but, as far as we know, he isn't a woman abuser.

B. Bell was driving.

You are right, he was not arrested. The rumors cane out after he hit the guy in Oregon, but that is very different from an arrest.

I don't google my posts for the most part. I read a lot about football. There is a lot more evidence that he is a terrible human than a good guy out there.

 

[lexrageorge]

You are right, he was not arrested. The rumors cane out after he hit the guy in Oregon, but that is very different from an arrest.

I don't google my posts for the most part. I read a lot about football. There is a lot more evidence that he is a terrible human than a good guy out there.

You made an accusation about domestic violence and claimed one could look it up on google. You were wrong on both accounts. One cannot even find rumors about it on google.

Blount may be a jerk, but we should be a bit more discerning before declaring someone guilty of domestic abuse just because he's a football player.

 

[Al Zarilla]

Blount made a mistake hitting an opponent on the sideline like Woody Hayes did years ago. Woody made the college hall of fame five years after he was let go by THE Ohio State University. Blount won't make any halls but he's not a terrible guy.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

You made an accusation about domestic violence and claimed one could look it up on google. You were wrong on both accounts. One cannot even find rumors about it on google.

Blount may be a jerk, but we should be a bit more discerning before declaring someone guilty of domestic abuse just because he's a football player.

I said that you could google it on the driving, noting my uncertainty. I am sorry that your desire to defend a guy because of the team he plays for extends to the point that you want to quibble over the fact that he wasn't actually driving when a guy was smoking pot and driving a car (while he was also smoking pot btw). His punch of the Boise kid was pretty fucking hideous. He has a long record of being an asshole, including punching a teammate in Tennessee and being accused of leading an assault on a guy in Tampa.

 

[JokersWildJIMED]

I said that you could google it on the driving, noting my uncertainty. I am sorry that your desire to defend a guy because of the team he plays for extends to the point that you want to quibble over the fact that he wasn't actually driving when a guy was smoking pot and driving a car (while he was also smoking pot btw). His punch of the Boise kid was pretty fucking hideous. He has a long record of being an asshole, including punching a teammate in Tennessee and being accused of leading an assault on a guy in Tampa.

Hideous? perhaps, but somewhat understandable in the moment...Byron Hout, who was the Boise kid, went into Blount's face as they were exiting the field and after a tough loss and screamed "how about that bleeping whupping"...not the smartest thing to say in the heat of the moment...Blount paid a steep price as he went from a potential high draft pick to being suspended for the season and an undrafted free agent..

 

[kenneycb]

That also reminds me of how Googling "Legarrette Blount gif" will provide you with several minutes of entertainment. Basically him punching that dude and jumping over people.

 

[Reverend]

You made an accusation about domestic violence and claimed one could look it up on google. You were wrong on both accounts. One cannot even find rumors about it on google.

Blount may be a jerk, but we should be a bit more discerning before declaring someone guilty of domestic abuse just because he's a football player.

This post is factually wrong in several very serious ways--I'm going to address two main axes:

1. It misrepresents the comments of another poster who was, granted, incorrect, but also addressed the wrongness, by making claims that look like they make sense only by making a hash of the narrative sequence. You have misrepresented what's been said on what is a serious issue. I take both the issue in question seriously, and the taking cheap shots by distorting the narrative seriously. Do not do this.
2. I looked it up on google. FWIW: I have a black belt in google and read at like the 37th grade level. You need to be more specific about what you mean or STFU because, again, these are serious issues and deserve to be treated as such.

I'm sorry sometimes [read: not infrequently] my life spirals out of control but I'd like to think some kind of semblance of intellectual rigor can be maintained while I'm gone, yes?

But perhaps that is not fair. Perhaps it is too much to ask.

One thing, though: I'm back right now.

So this is not aimed at anyone in particular, but please, I beg of you: Knock it the fuck off, yes?

plskthx

"Fake Edit": Anyone who comes to me in PMs asking what they did wrong better be leading with an affirmative defense of why the behavior called in to question was legit and not just ask what they did because I'm fucking busy these days.

 

[AB in DC]

umm....nice kitty?

 

[lexrageorge]

This post is factually wrong in several very serious ways--I'm going to address two main axes:

1. It misrepresents the comments of another poster who was, granted, incorrect, but also addressed the wrongness, by making claims that look like they make sense only by making a hash of the narrative sequence. You have misrepresented what's been said on what is a serious issue. I take both the issue in question seriously, and the taking cheap shots by distorting the narrative seriously. Do not do this.
2. I looked it up on google. FWIW: I have a black belt in google and read at like the 37th grade level. You need to be more specific about what you mean or STFU because, again, these are serious issues and deserve to be treated as such.

I'm sorry sometimes [read: not infrequently] my life spirals out of control but I'd like to think some kind of semblance of intellectual rigor can be maintained while I'm gone, yes?

But perhaps that is not fair. Perhaps it is too much to ask.

One thing, though: I'm back right now.

So this is not aimed at anyone in particular, but please, I beg of you: Knock it the fuck off, yes?

plskthx
...
"Fake Edit": Anyone who comes to me in PMs asking what they did wrong better be leading with an affirmative defense of why the behavior called in to question was legit and not just ask what they did because I'm fucking busy these days.

First, my apologies for deleting the kitten.

Second, let's review the history:

RBYB responded to my initial inquiry regarding Blount with the following:

He has had at least one, and I think more than one, arrests for domestic violence. He has been arrested for pot, which is less of a big deal but I think he was driving. I could be wrong about the driving, but you can google this pretty easily. He is a shitbag. Right now the RB position in the NFL seems to be at an all time high for guys who like to hit women.

One poster corrected the "arrest" part of his post. I did respond incorrectly regarding the Google part, and RBYB corrected my misunderstanding here:

I said that you could google it on the driving, noting my uncertainty.

I did not acknowledge his (accurate) correction for a couple of reasons. One, because I was not at my computer and did not feel like responding over mobile. Second, I did feel the Blount "bad dude" mini-thread had essentially run its course, and did not feel like adding more posts.

But, RBYB also said, in response to another poster

You are right, he was not arrested. The rumors cane out after he hit the guy in Oregon, but that is very different from an arrest.

I could not find any mention of "rumors" regarding Blount and domestic violence anywhere on Google, and I did more than a cursory check. And I responded the way I did because I do not believe we should say "rumors came out" unless there is a way to back such a statement, especially when it regards domestic violence. No narrative has been distorted, no matter how much you want to believe it was.

If you did find something on Google (or elsewhere) regarding Blount and domestic violence, feel free to share, because noone else posting here has found it either. And, if you do that, I'll correct what I said to RBYB.

EDIT: I do realize that a fraction, likely a horrifically small fraction, of domestic violence incidents get reported in some way, shape or form. And that even a good deal of those those that do get reported are sometimes easily buried. But it's not hard to find actual reported incidents involving Corey Dillon and Randy Moss, to name a couple that I had time to verify via Google. I recall others involving former Patriot players, but I'd rather not state names here as I'd have to go off of memory, and prefer to avoid doing that on an issue such as this. Blount may very well be a total jerk (I already mentioned that), and I have no issue with folks making that claim. He may very well have done some unimaginable things to his domestic partner; I have no idea either way. But that is something entirely different than being a jerk, and I don't think we'd disagree that someone making such a claim should provide something to back up such a claim.

 

[Reverend]

I am asking you, now, if you want me to go through that with you, step by step, and face the consequences for what I find, under the stipulations that you fucking asked for it.

Twice.

You don't have to answer immediately. Take you time.

(I would advise a good deal, but I'm a softie.)

Short version: That you even made this post has me enraged, especially because my last post indicated that I had already done my homework on all this bullshit and it pisses me off that you're insisting this become a public spectacle of... I have no fucking idea, really, considering how much you conceded in your last post as to how much your posting here has sucked.

It's like your point here is, okok, I get it, I sucked here, here, and here... and possibly here but I suck too much to know for sure, but--BuuuuuuuuT... I think I have this weird point here where I don't think I suck even though you've already said that you have evidence that I sucked there, and have a fucking doctorate in looking precisely this shit up, I still feel good about it, so I'm gonna roll the dice on whether or not I suck...

Is this actually how you understand yourself?

And the most amazing part is you can't take a hint and won't ask over PMs or do anything that a self-aware person should do in such circumstances.

I hate doing this, I really do and anyone who knows me knows that, but the fact of the matter is, the more experienced as an educator I get, when people like you make a point of pushing it to shove, I have to shove so that people can understand what they ought not be by your bad example.

What you wrote above waffles between incoherent and incorrect.

Please do not post in this thread again.

Ever.

 

[lexrageorge]

Get off your fucking moderator high horse and actually read what I said. I already offered to correct my post.

 

[Reverend]

You actually think the problem here is my inability to read and comprehend?

 

[lexrageorge]

I stand by my posts. Deal with it.

 

[Reverend]

I stand by my posts. Deal with it.

We know you do.

We've known this for years.

It doesn't make your posts any better. The fact that you think this is on me is... well, it's what you decide it is, I would imagine.

And yet you still can't just shut the fuck up.

 

[lexrageorge]

Not sure why it's on me to STFU. I'm not the one that made claims about domestic abuse. And I explained my error, and why I responded the way I did. And you responded with personal attacks and laughably telling me that I should not post here. But, yeah, it's all on me.

 

[Average Reds]

Not sure why it's on me to STFU. I'm not the one that made claims about domestic abuse. And I explained my error, and why I responded the way I did. And you responded with personal attacks and laughably telling me that I should not post here. But, yeah, it's all on me.

I suspect that you are focusing so much on one aspect of the battle that you are on the verge of losing the war.

As it relates to this thread, you might want to take a breath and call it a night. Or not. Your call.

 

[Super Nomario]

1. I looked it up on google. FWIW: I have a black belt in google and read at like the 37th grade level. You need to be more specific about what you mean or STFU because, again, these are serious issues and deserve to be treated as such.

Does this mean you did find an incident of domestic violence with Blount? I'd be interested in a link if you have one.

 

[InstaFace]

What I'm taking from this is, don't mess with a mod whose handle ends with "End", even if you think you're a great writer because yours starts with "Lex".

Speaking of means and ends, the TEs on the pro bowl rosters surprised me. I have no problem with Kelce or Olsen, but I'd like to know why Delanie Walker or Jordan Reed over Jimmy Graham, Martellus Bennett, or Austin Hooper in Atlanta who's having a hell of a rookie season.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

What I'm taking from this is, don't mess with a mod whose handle ends with "End", even if you think you're a great writer because yours starts with "Lex".

Speaking of means and ends, the TEs on the pro bowl rosters surprised me. I have no problem with Kelce or Olsen, but I'd like to know why Delanie Walker or Jordan Reed over Jimmy Graham, Martellus Bennett, or Austin Hooper in Atlanta who's having a hell of a rookie season.

I think Jordan Reed got so much hype this season, and Jimmy Graham has gotten so much negative press the last few years, that the selection was just a reflection of the reporting. In fairness to Jordan Reed, he is no slouch. But Graham has had a much nicer season. And you are right, Austin Hooper, while not putting up huge yardage, has been a nice asset on that Falcons offense.

 

[Gunfighter 09]

LGBT is a good dude having a great career but he doesn't deserve to be there over Murray, McCoy, or Bell. I'm fine with that.

I would be perfectly fine with LGBT getting in over Murray. I think the extra 8 touchdowns make up for the 150 yards difference, and .5 YPA. Some of that is just personal preference and what my eyeball tells me. But I think Blount is the 3rd best back in the conference this year and certainly the best of the mortals not named McCoy or Bell. Further, I love me some Marcel Reece, but there really should be 4 running backs and no fullback slot.