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Patriots Combine Meetings/Facility Visits/Private Workouts

Discussion in 'Wait, Who???' started by RedOctober3829, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. RedOctober3829

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    So far, the Patriots have met with the following players at the Combine. Let's also use this as a catch-all for when players are reported to visit Foxboro.
     
    Arizona State OL Jamil Douglas
    Florida State OL Bobby Hart
    Hobart(NY) OL Ali Marpet
    Duke OL Takoby Cofield
    Minnesota TE Maxx Williams
    Florida State TE Nick O'Leary
    Duke G Laken Tomlinson
    Florida State G Tre Jackson
    Central Arkansas WR Dezmin Lewis
    Iowa OL Brandon Scherff
    Mississippi State RB Josh Robinson
     
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    Doug Kyed has been keeping track of these as well, some additions from Day 1 and Day 2.
     
    Louisville OL Jamon Brown
    Notre Dame K Kyle Brindza
    Rutgers TE Tyler Kroft
    South Carolina RB Mike Lewis
    Louisville RB Michael Dyer
    Florida RB Matt Jones
    Ohio State TE Jeff Heuerman
    UMass TE Jean Sifrin
     
    From the Senior Bowl
    Michigan State ATH Tony Lippett
    Fresno State WR Josh Harper
     
  10. ElcaballitoMVP

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    It's certainly possible, but I'm not sure if it's likely. He's the best 2 way TE in the draft and everyone's looking for the next Gronk (he isn't Gronk, but he's still good). A lot will depend on interviews and how he performs at the combine, but I think he'd be a great fit on the field with Gronk. Matchup problems all day when those two are on the field they can go from a power running game to a spread offense the very next play without allowing the defense to make substitutions. I see Maxx as more of a Jason Witten/Greg Olsen type than a monster like 87, but that's not to say those guys weren't excellent TE's in their prime. 
     
    I could see any number of teams picking in front of the Pats having interest (DEN, GB, SEA, BAL, CAR, ARI). I don't think there's any way he falls to the Pats in round 2, so they'd have to jump on him if he was still on the board in round 1. 

    Personally, I'd be excited if the Pats took him but I also think they'd be better off using their 1st pick on OL (AJ Cann, E. Flowers) or DL (M. Brown, A. Armstead). 
     
  11. SMU_Sox

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    Jason Witten is a future (I'd argue first ballot) HoFer. If you draft someone with his production you've done well. Healthy Gronk is a once in 25 years kind of talent but don't underscore Witten who was either the best all around TE or at least top 3 in the league for years.
     
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    RT @DougKyedNESN: Texas DT Malcolm Brown has an official visit scheduled with the Patriots
     
  13. Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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    I was maybe the first guy on this board on the Maxx Williams bandwagon but I'm not sure he's a truly elite TE prospect.  I haven't really seen anybody claim that he is a better prospect than a guy like Tyler Eifert, for example.
     
  14. Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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    Williams ran an unofficial 4.90 and 4.77 in his two 40s, fwiw.
     
  15. ElcaballitoMVP

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    Oh, I wasn't trying to downplay Witten and his accomplishments at all. If Maxx turned into Witten, I think everyone would be thrilled. I just see a guy who's a smooth, fluid pass catcher who doesn't have elite physical tools (top end speed or Gronk's size). Maxx isn't the blocker that Gronk is and is more of a useable run blocker like a Witten or Olsen, someone who is more dangerous in the passing game working the middle of the field. 
     
  16. RedOctober3829

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    Nick O'Leary ran a 4.9 40 which is mind blowingly slow but his hands in the gauntlet drill were outstanding. Could he be an upgrade on HooMan?
     
  17. RedOctober3829

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    @DougKyedNESN: Houston DL Joey Mbu met with the Patriots last night. Joked that his best position is slot receiver.
     
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    @kevinrduffy: Bud Dupree says he met with Patriots yesterday.
     
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    @DougKyedNESN: The Patriots will hold a formal interview with Washington OLB Hau'oli Kikaha tomorrow night.
     
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    Wish they didn't sign Cannon. I'm watching TJ Clemmings from Pitt and he's a physical specimen. Very athletic and quick feet in the wave drill.
     
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    @DougKyedNESN: Alabama safety Landon Collins met with the Patriots yesterday.
     
  23. Kenny F'ing Powers

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    I don't think Cannon hampers their willingness to draft a tackle.

    Either way, Clemmings ain't making it to the Patriots at 32.
     
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    Per his mom, Tre McBride had a private workout with the Pats today:
     
    https://twitter.com/PamelaMMcBride/status/580900366180593665
     
  27. Super Nomario

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    Mom can't keep her mouth shut about private workouts. Put a Milo on him.
     
  28. nazz45

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    South Carolina RB Mike Davis will be in for a private workout with the Patriots according to NFL Draft Scout.

    Recently watched a few games with an eye on AJ Cann. Davis stood out for his vision and burst. They run mostly a power/gap scheme but he can make things happen when the blocks breakdown. Also thought he was working with an SC OL that was pretty mediocre (at least in the handful of games watched).

    https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/582194754038964224
     
  29. ElcaballitoMVP

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    Davis isn't getting much buzz, so he could probably be had later in the draft. 
     
    I'm interested though, what were your thoughts on Cann? I think he gets taken somewhere between the Pats 1st and 2nd pick, and he's a binkie of mine. But I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about him. I think he's much more athletic and better in space than a road grader like Laken Tomlinson. 
     
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    Overall, he's steady but limited. That's mostly because of the blocking scheme the Gamecocks employ.

    Not a lot of pull blocking but he looks athletic enough in short areas to be consistent; not very fluid when cut blocking; not sure if he had even one combination block with a finish at the LB level - again, that's more of a scheme issue but probably limits his NFL appeal.

    He's ok when on a straight path into the second level on runs and screens but his lack of elite athleticism starts to show the further he gets away from the LOS.

    I think he's ok in pass pro despite scouting reports to the contrary but noticed he's the last to fire out of his stance a little too often when pass setting. It never happened in head up situations so it may be nothing but would like him ready to engage a tad quicker.

    I'll have a more in depth profile with video on insidethepylon.com in the next week or so. Want to see how his Pro Day goes after being limited at Combine (and hurt for Senior Bowl).

    Edit - I realize I didn't say much positive but I think being steady and relatively mistake free is a huge positive. This is also based on five games with one more to go so it's tough to judge.
     
    Edit 2 - And then I just watched his game against Texas A&M and it's easily his best one I've seen. Showed off his short-area athleticism on lots of pull blocks and he finished well at the second level.
     
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  32. ElcaballitoMVP

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    Thanks for your input, I look forward to checking out the in depth preview when you finish it up. 
     
    I was a bit surprised at your review of Cann not being athletic enough, but I suppose everyone looks athletic when they're lined up next to the massive Corey Robinson (who I saw miss more blocks and fail to get to the second level more times than I could count in the game I watched- no thanks on him). But I'm happy to hear he looked better in the A&M game; sounds more like the guy I'm looking for. Thoughts on where you'd draft him? 2nd/3rd round? 
     
  33. nazz45

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    I think he's more than quick enough in tight spaces, but there are some incosistencies when he tries to block a linebacker in space. I think there's only about 5 pure guards worth drafting in the first three rounds (Tomlinson, Kouandjio, Tre Jackson and Marpet - the only guy I can't find any actual tape on) but there are a lot of possible tackle-guard converts that could push Cann back toward the end of round two.
     
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  37. Buster Olney the Lonely

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    I thought that this from Pats Pulpit was pretty interesting. Can we expect the Pats to draft anyone in this thread? 
     
    Sure it's a minuscule sample (two seasons), I just thought it will be fascinating to track going forward. 
     
    http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/3/22/8275269/do-official-nfl-pre-draft-visits-mean-anything
     
  38. Shelterdog

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    They used to draft a high percentage of the guys they brought in.  I think they mix it up so as to be unpredictable.
     
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    https://twitter.com/cpriceNFL/status/588070990728581121
     
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    @DougKyedNESN: Report: Tevin Coleman To Meet With Patriots After Impressive Pro Day http://t.co/nYlh9Xy1ro
     
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