Patriots @ Arizona: Week 1
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Starting to get juicy if you believe that the Pats have an elite defensive unit that can keep things close.
The D may keep it close but when the offense is missing it's best weapon and it's best OL I'd say the Patriots are in major trouble. I'd put money on AZ at this point if I was a betting man.
Gronk, Cooper and Solder all out per NFL.com.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000697735/article/rob-gronkowski-not-expected-to-play-vs-cardinals
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000697735/article/rob-gronkowski-not-expected-to-play-vs-cardinals
I couldn't disagree more. If NE loses without Brady and Gronk I really think the national media and most fans get that.
Missing QB1, TE1, RB1, LT1, RT1, and RG1 on offense. 6/11 starters, 2 of them all-pro and a third who would be close if he was healthy for a full season. This isn't really the Pats and they aren't winning without several lucky bounces and a great performance by the defense (which is only missing 1 fairly replaceable starter).
Is this a Brown's joke or are you serious since Pats are likely starting RG3 or RG4 (no Cooper, Probably no Mason, no Jackson).
I mean I thought it was a pretty easy read but you raise a great point, why can't it be both?
I didn't say I gave a shit.
I said I seriously doubt if the Pats lose to Arizona on the road without Brady, Gronk, etc. that anyone will say the sky is falling--national media or most fans.
In trouble because it might mean that they could go 0-4 and even Brady might not be able to save them from that.
And I posted that before I knew Gronk and Cooper were going to be out. Those hurt a lot.
There was always zero chance of them going 1-3 with the only win being the Cardinals game. The opener is the reason pretty much nobody predicted a 4-0 start for Jimmy. They'll be fine as long as those injuries aren't long term.
Despite all the breathless talk on the radio yesterday, was that ever in doubt?
Florio
The Ninkovich "playing in Miami but not flying with the team" example last year was an exception because the Pats flew down there a day earlier than the league requires.
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I think there's a nonzero chance we get absolutely demolished and ESPN talking heads start singing the 'dynasty over' song again.
But I'm tempted to take the points...
But I'm tempted to take the points...
I think theres a decent chance this defense hits Palmer a bunch of times and makes this game a lot more interesting than many are predicting.
And it is not the toughest road game of the past 5 years. In DEN is always the toughest road game. In GB was a much tougher test than this. Palmers fall back to earth this year will be swift and glorious I may add
And it is not the toughest road game of the past 5 years. In DEN is always the toughest road game. In GB was a much tougher test than this. Palmers fall back to earth this year will be swift and glorious I may add
I think a game in Buffalo against the Bills without Brady, Solder and Gronk would be in the running for toughest road game in the last five years, nevermind Arizona.
Well by definition any game without Brady is the toughest. I was just referring to quality of opponent. Not sold on AZ this year.
I took the Patriots at +7. I think this will be a much closer game than that.
I also took the prop that nobody will score within the first 6 minutes of the game.
I also took the prop that nobody will score within the first 6 minutes of the game.
A little bit of a delayed reaction, but I assume the late movement is driven mostly by Gronk being out.
Yeah, I'm in a picks pool, the line is set on Wednesday. It is 5.5. I had the Pats but changed to AZ. 5.5 isn't enough now.
Patriots win: Brady overrated. BB can make any QB a winner.
Patriots lose: BB overrated. Nothing without Brady.
I'd love to know the last time the Pat's were on sale like this.
Just give me a win by Seattle to round out the day.
saw it reported today the Super Bowl vs Rams is the answer, so, biggest 'dog in 15 years
Yup that the way I'm looking at it.
tied for the AFC E after the 1st week works for me.
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How many of those would've been with Cleveland? Max of four given this game and the Rams SB.
The tweet said with Pats, but I'm struggling to figure it out.
2000 at Denver when Pats were 0-4?
EDIT: Nope, they were 8.5 point dogs.
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They were huge dogs to the Steelers in 2001, as well. I want to say it was double digits, maybe 10-10.5?
Interesting, how about week 17 games where starters are likely benched. Idk, 9.5 would still be a lot