Pastrnak been recalled (again)
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So this burns a year of his entry-level, but as long as he plays less than 40 it doesn't move up free agency for him, correct?
The B's have 37 games left, I would think they will hold him out of 10-12 of them. Not only to keep him under 40, but to make sure he doesn't get overworked. Even if he sits for 12 games, this will still be by far the most games he's played in a season. Don't want to burn him out.
The B's have 37 games left, I would think they will hold him out of 10-12 of them. Not only to keep him under 40, but to make sure he doesn't get overworked. Even if he sits for 12 games, this will still be by far the most games he's played in a season. Don't want to burn him out.
Do playoff games count? I assume they would and if they do he'll go over that 40 number even if they hold him out 10-12 more in the Regular Season.
I do like the idea of keeping him here in Boston because he has shown that he belongs and holding him out of games in short stretches to help keep him rested while showing him the overview of the game from the Press Box can also be useful. I believe we are probably moving up his Free Agency as well with this decision.
I do like the idea of keeping him here in Boston because he has shown that he belongs and holding him out of games in short stretches to help keep him rested while showing him the overview of the game from the Press Box can also be useful. I believe we are probably moving up his Free Agency as well with this decision.
Chiarelli said earlier in the week to someone on 98.5 that playoff games count against the 10 game limit, so I assume they count against the 40 too.
kenneycb said:
Very happy to hear he's staying. He's got speed and offensive skill, exactly what the team needs.
Didn't take very long after burning an ELC year for Pastrnak to get bumped off of the first line. I get not wanting to trust an 18 yrear old in the middle of a playoff push, but if that was the judgment then burning a contract year was asinine.
I don't think it necessarily has to be first line or bust. If he's a solid contributor on the 2nd or 3rd lines, then it's still worth the ELC burn.Eddie Jurak said:
If he's going to get less ice time at even strength than Campbell - as was the case tonight- then the Bruins wasted a contract year for nothing. If they don't trust him defensively enough to give h a regular shift, then they wasted a contract year for nothing.cshea said:
I'm totally ok with Claude protecting him and giving him opportunities and hiding him from pitfalls rather than immediately hanging him out to dry by giving him first line minutes and responsibilities immediately. It would be nice if he's a contributing top 6 forward when the playoffs start. I think Claude knows enough that he's working towards that goal for Pastrnak.
The Bruins haven't wasted a year of service time until he hits 40 games. All they've done is give him RFA status a year earlier. I'm fine with this trade off when the alternative is surrendering high picks for a Chris Stewart/Erik Cole type player.
I imagine they scratch/AHL Pastrnak for 10-12 games down the stretch once the playoffs are assured. If he exceeds 40 games at that point, a relatively deep playoff run is assured and is, by definition (IMO) worth the year of control lost.
edit: evaluating his ES ice time against one of the best teams in hockey the first game out of the all star break is a rapid rush to judgment, to say the least - if anything I'm glad the decision to keep him up hasn't instilled in Claude that he has to warrant the burned ELC year by wearing Pastrnak out.
I imagine they scratch/AHL Pastrnak for 10-12 games down the stretch once the playoffs are assured. If he exceeds 40 games at that point, a relatively deep playoff run is assured and is, by definition (IMO) worth the year of control lost.
edit: evaluating his ES ice time against one of the best teams in hockey the first game out of the all star break is a rapid rush to judgment, to say the least - if anything I'm glad the decision to keep him up hasn't instilled in Claude that he has to warrant the burned ELC year by wearing Pastrnak out.
It was one game, and Pastrnak was paired on the 3rd line most of the night. I fail to see the problem. Worrying about a couple minutes of ice time in the middle of the endless regular season is a borderline game threading. And Pasta is developing far better here than he would be in Providence.
Also, keep in mind that Jacobs basically told Chiarelli that his job was on the line if the B's didn't make the playoffs; so the motivation to do whatever necessary to boost short term results at the possible expense of some salary dollars 3 years distant came from the very top of the organization.
Also, keep in mind that Jacobs basically told Chiarelli that his job was on the line if the B's didn't make the playoffs; so the motivation to do whatever necessary to boost short term results at the possible expense of some salary dollars 3 years distant came from the very top of the organization.
So what was his ice time vs Campbell for the other games? Surely you'd never cherry pick stats to suit your argument.Eddie Jurak said:
The trade deadline has not passed yet - I 'll be surprised if the Bruins don't add a forward.PedroSpecialK said:
The pickings at the trade deadline are expected to be slim, especially as the B's do have cap issues to worry about. Top 6 forwards will be extremely difficult to come by this year, I don't see this team giving up a first rounder for a bottom 6 forward, and later round picks are only going to net depth players, some of whom will be on bad contracts from the Bruins perspective.Eddie Jurak said:
I love the kid's game. He generates really deceptively hard body contact on the forecheck because his accelerations is so sudden, too.
For an Irished-up coffee's cross-sport analogy, he reminds me a bit of a young Dwayne Wade or Iverson: slight, with silly acceleration and little regard for his own body. I hope he stays healthy while he grows into himself a bit.
For an Irished-up coffee's cross-sport analogy, he reminds me a bit of a young Dwayne Wade or Iverson: slight, with silly acceleration and little regard for his own body. I hope he stays healthy while he grows into himself a bit.
not really sure where to put this, but whats up with Pasta getting benched at the end of the Detroit game today? He had 11:08, and just 12:41 yesterday? Just one shift after 15 minutes to go in the game.
They needed someone to play defense, and his defensive game isn't quite where it needs to be yet. I wouldn't read too much into it.
I don't know if I'd call it "benched." He looked horrible defensively today and made numerous lazy/soft plays on the puck, especially in the D zone. That line also got completely hemmed into their own zone for minutes on end. I think Claude was just going hard after two important points and keeping the worst defensive forward of the day off the ice while up 2 in the 3rd. Not a punishment directly, though. Plus I imagine they're trying to guard against him wearing down too.
I was a little surprised he chose to sit Pastrnak rather than just sitting the whole line or breaking it up. Swapping Campbell in for Pastrnak did not exactly improve the line's performance. I think Claude may have to switch up the lines soon.
He swapped him with Talbot. Or alternated with Talbot and Campbell. I remember seeing Talbot with the line but not Campbell.Eddie Jurak said:
The line played well with Talbot for his 2 shifts. It was pretty bad with Campbell For his one shift. It was 3 shifts total we're talking about here.
I might be missing sarcasm here, but why is Claude changing up the lines when they just took 7 points in 4 games? I think things have worked out quite well with this group so far.
I might be missing sarcasm here, but why is Claude changing up the lines when they just took 7 points in 4 games? I think things have worked out quite well with this group so far.
I agree things have worked out well lately - but the Spooner line has struggled for a couple of games. It didn't, but could have, cost them both today and yesterday. I'm not sure how much longer (assuming they continue to have problems) Claude lets that continue (or should let it continue). Although shuffling lines would cause other problems.The Four Peters said:
They could consider flipping Kelly and Lucic. Gives the kids a defensively responsible winger to ease the defensive burden.
It's a legit option, but one that would weaken the line's offensive potential - which is in part the reason for having that line It makes a little more sense to me as an in-game move than as a permanent one.cshea said:
Kelly's pretty good possession wise (52.8%), and is 49.7% to Spooner's 43.5% at the dot. He'd help them keep control the puck. He hasn't really held back Soderberg and Eriksson, those guys are 5th and 2nd in scoring on the team largely playing with Kelly on the wing. I think it's worth looking into it Spooner's line continues to get hemmed in at even strength.
TheShynessClinic said:
he's better off doing this then going out trolling for women, partying and being late/hungover for practices or morning skates. All kidding aside, these guys aren't robots. he's an 18 year old kid looking to get laid like every other 18 year old kid. As long as he's staying away from the wives/family of people in the organization there won't be a problem.
Yeah but can't he just get on Tinder like the rest of us? That worked out so well for Edelman...oh...wait...never mind.Salem's Lot said:
The kid has soft hands. Maybe he just wants to meet like-handed people and learn some new skills from them.
Hey, I could use some "sensual massaging" and "private lap dancing".
This kid's development is going up.
This kid's development is going up.
Yep. I suck. Shouldn't drink and post, I guess. I conflated him with one of my favorite psychedelic rockers, Roky Erickson. My apologies to the Pron Stachers and Mr. Loui Eriksson.
/slinks back to Port Cellar
/slinks back to Port Cellar