I would watch whatever Kim Jones has to say on this topic very closely. She's been tied with OBJ's camp from his Giants days.
She's been all over the map as well. On Tuesday, it was possibly Wednesday. Then yesterday (Wednesday), it was a few days away. She did retweet the Kendrick Bourne quote about the whole Pats locker room talking about it (via Chris Mason).I would watch whatever Kim Jones has to say on this topic very closely. She's been tied with OBJ's camp from his Giants days.
Not for me. That's the perfect length for an OBJ stay with a particular team.RapSheet on NFLN: OBJ looking for a place to play the next 2-3 years.
Not that he'll get that sort of offer, but does that change your opinion as to whether Patriots should continue pursuit?
She can only report what she gets.She's been all over the map as well. On Tuesday, it was possibly Wednesday. Then yesterday (Wednesday), it was a few days away. She did retweet the Kendrick Bourne quote about the whole Pats locker room talking about it (via Chris Mason).
The reality is that Odell hasn't made up his mind yet and is likely conflicted by what choices he has. If Tom Brady needed a WR1, this thing would be over by now. He's left with role player on a contender or more substantial role on a possible contender. Given his situation, he's right to pause and think.
RapSheet on NFLN: OBJ looking for a place to play the next 2-3 years.
Not that he'll get that sort of offer, but does that change your opinion as to whether Patriots should continue pursuit?
If Bill can make the money work, I'm all for this. Not so long a commitment that we're screwed forever if it doesn't work. If it does work, we get more than run with him.RapSheet on NFLN: OBJ looking for a place to play the next 2-3 years.
Not that he'll get that sort of offer, but does that change your opinion as to whether Patriots should continue pursuit?
The cap booms after next year, so they can backload the deal if that works for OBJ as well.If Bill can make the money work, I'm all for this. Not so long a commitment that we're screwed forever if it doesn't work. If it does work, we get more than run with him.
Yeah, I’d be surprised if GB gives OBJ guaranteed money over several years, having not extended Adams yet. I’m also not sure KC - who have Hill’s contract up after ‘22 - is gonna lay out serious guarantee dollars for him. SEA similarly has to extend Metcalf - who as a second rounder isn’t eligible for the 5th year option - or franchise him after ‘22. The Saints are in a horrendous cap situation, so hard to see them caving here.He might get that offer, but that might take GB out of the running. They haven't paid Adams yet.
And no, if the money works, I'm fine.
0 Super Bowls. Pass.For context, Randy Moss was older when the Pats traded for him in 2007. They got 3 pretty damn good seasons from him.
Participation trophies aren’t what they used to be in this town.0 Super Bowls. Pass.
A little surprising. Thought OBJ would try to build his value up over the last half year and get more teams in on the bidding come the offseason.RapSheet on NFLN: OBJ looking for a place to play the next 2-3 years.
Not that he'll get that sort of offer, but does that change your opinion as to whether Patriots should continue pursuit?
Hey, either you are capable of setting an NFL record for WR TDs en route to a perfect 19-0 season or you are not. Moss had his chance and failed miserably.Participation trophies aren’t what they used to be in this town.
LOL at "failed miserably". Time for the obligatory reminder that Brady missed one of the years that Moss was here, and then the defense aged out quite drastically in 2009.Hey, either you are capable of setting an NFL record for WR TDs en route to a perfect 19-0 season or you are not. Moss had his chance and failed miserably.
Sarcasm, my friend. It was sarcasm all along.LOL at "failed miserably". Time for the obligatory reminder that Brady missed one of the years that Moss was here, and then the defense aged out quite drastically in 2009.
And Moss has no bearing on whether the Pats should pursue OBJ. Pats won 2 Super Bowls thanks to having one of the best tight ends to play the game. And Playoff Edelman is better than just about any of the current pass catchers. Talent still matters.
Moss was also probably the most talented WR of all-time and had the production to back it up. I see no comparison between him and OBJ at all, and I'm frankly surprised this thread has been so active today.For context, Randy Moss was older when the Pats traded for him in 2007. They got 3 pretty damn good seasons from him.
I'm agreeing with you. I think OBJ is the one confused and her reporting different timelines is actually what's happening on his side. If the multi-year thing is real, that's another wrinkle indeed.Not for me. That's the perfect length for an OBJ stay with a particular team.
She can only report what she gets.
The middle of my head is now a smoking bald patch.Sarcasm, my friend. It was sarcasm all along.
I mean, @BigSoxFan was clearly joking, right?LOL at "failed miserably". Time for the obligatory reminder that Brady missed one of the years that Moss was here, and then the defense aged out quite drastically in 2009.
And Moss has no bearing on whether the Pats should pursue OBJ. Pats won 2 Super Bowls thanks to having one of the best tight ends to play the game. And Playoff Edelman is better than just about any of the current pass catchers. Talent still matters.
Agreed. I think OBJ is probably a little surprised by all the interest in him after he passed through waivers and wondering if he can leverage it into a multi-year deal. But unless they were concerned he wouldn’t play for them at that price, if a team didn’t want to bite at ~$7M/1 yr I’m not sure why they’d bite at multiple years at bigger dollars.I'm agreeing with you. I think OBJ is the one confused and her reporting different timelines is actually what's happening on his side. If the multi-year thing is real, that's another wrinkle indeed.
3 previous seasons (2004-2006):Moss was also probably the most talented WR of all-time and had the production to back it up. I see no comparison between him and OBJ at all, and I'm frankly surprised this thread has been so active today.
I heard this in the car. If it was to the Pats I feel like he would have let something slip when he was getting off.
NFC is going to be a gauntlet.
Or they agreed verbally and then OBJ’s agent had to be like “nm jk, give me a minute here!”Soo between those posts, it appears that the Rams thought they had a deal ...Schefter went with it...but OBJ was still thinking about it.