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The Talented Allen Ripley

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I once leaned my head on a public restroom wall. Ew. The wool/poly blend of a New Era cap acted as a shield, but still. I had been standing over a urinal in the men’s restroom of the Piccadilly Pub in Franklin, and as the reality of the 19-8 defeat at the hands of the Yankees tumbled over me like so many bricks, I kind of slowly leaned forward and my forehead gently met the wall in front of me. I think it was plaster, not tile, but don’t hold me to that.

This is just not meant to be, I told myself. Probably because of something I did.

Because it was personal, of course. How could it be any other way? The Sox, they had my name. They knew who I was. My Social Security number was on file somewhere in the bowels of their offices, a microchip had been implanted in the skin under my forearm, surely all of this was One Big Middle Finger to me and my existence, some sort of moral judgment on my activities to this point. I had not led a good enough life yet. I didn’t deserve any sort of baseball happiness. All their postseason foibles were an attack on me, nobody else. Red Sox Nation? Pfft, what do they know? This is all on me. They’re doing this to screw with ME. For my sins, my failings, my decayed humanity. Me.

So I leaned my head on a public restroom wall. Not something I’d advise doing, generally, even at a place as genteel as a suburban Piccadilly Pub.

It was just not meant to be.

Going into the evening the Yanks were up 2 games to none, but the Sox were back at Fenway and a win would make it a series again. It was a see-saw battle for 3 innings, then the Yankees became extremely rude guests and ran away with things, to the point where one might find themselves leaning against a filmy bathroom wall and wondering what the point of it all was.

Grady Little had horrifically botched things the year before, clutching defeat from the jaws of victory against these very Yankees at the most crucial moment possible, a rug-pull played on those Sox fans who truly believed the team’s accursed past was simply due to random bad luck. Or bad management. Or personnel failings.

This indignity, this Grady, this Boone, piled on top of Buckner and Dent and Jim Burton and Armbrister and Ruhle and Aparicio and Jack Hamilton and Enos Slaughter. There were generations of men and women from the corners of New England and all points in between who were sick to their stomachs and looking at themselves in bathroom mirrors wondering why it ever had to be this way. Why? Why?

The Yankees had just beaten the Red Sox 19-8, taking a 3-0 lead in the 2004 American League Championship Series. There would be no World Series for the Sox that year, no redemption for those left prostrate by Grady Little’s idiocy the year before. Baseball does not do karma. The game is its own reward, win or lose. A harsh but needed lesson, brutal in its finality.

I separated my forehead from the wall, exited the bathroom, and left the restaurant sometime after midnight on Sunday, October 17, 2004.
 

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Always morbid fun to revisit the days when being a Red Sox fan was like inhabiting the lowest cell block floor at Guantanamo Bay.

For my part, there was only one moment when I truly believed the Boston baseball franchise was cursed— as ridiculous an idea is that is. It was in G1 of the 1999 ALDS, Red Sox cruising along against the Indians and then we're suddenly informed that Pedro Martinez has been pulled due to injury. This was before Pedro getting injured was a thing— he was dominating, really the best player in baseball that year, and all of a sudden he's hurt? It was not dissimilar to the Jets' Rodgers injury spectacle in the sense of, how much horrible luck can one franchise endure?

That was my personal forehead-against-restroom-wall moment. I grant 19-8 was objectively worse, but somehow this was the one where I thought we would never, ever be allowed to win it.
 

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Excellent post Ripley. For me Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS was rock bottom. I had people over - I knew the risks but was past caring and the Sox seemed to have the energy going their way. The 0-3 hole in 2004 just seemed like a repeat of the previous year's absurdity. I guess that was less of a sting and more of a dull ache.
 

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Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS - I am a freshman in high school. Stayed up with my dad to watch the entire game 7 debacle, including the Boone walk off. As I cried, my dad said "This is just how it is with this team."
 

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I was at Fenway for game 3. Had a ticket to games 4 and 5. Right near the end of game 3 there were about 10,000 fans left max. We moved down to the boxes near the field. Some gigantic guy sitting right near us screams out very loud" Could you just end this thing so I can leave, walk to my car, and shoot myself". I turn to my friend Vinnie and tell him I'm driving back to Norwalk, Ct. He can give somebody else my tickets to the next two games. I've always considered the possibility that if I had remained there, they never would have pulled it off. During that game three the Yankee fans near us were far more annoying than usual, if that's possible. They were so sure of themselves in those days. It has changed everything for me at least. I have become completely indifferent to things like letting Mooke Betts go, doing nothing at the trade deadline, etc etc etc. I have to admit that there is something I miss about that intensity I used to have, but I can't see it ever returning.
 

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Game 3 was rock bottom for me. I was so sure that the Sox were going to win that I spent all Saturday looking forward to it, giving shit to my Yankee fan fiance (now my wife) and planning to meet friends in Davis Sqaure. This was going to be an awesome weekend, we had plans to watch the game that night, the following day my buddy and I had free tickets for the Pats/Seahawks, then I was going to truck back to Boston to watch Public Enemy and Living Colour play a show at Avalon (or it may have been Mama Kin or House of Blues or one of those venues across from Fenway) and then I was going to try and either get myself into Fenway for the last inning or two of Game 4 or watch it at a bar before walking back to my fiance's house which was about a mile away.

Sox got pummeled, I got completely shithoused, renounced my fandom, woke up the next morning and was too depressed to go to the Pats game so I cancelled on that, didn't make it to the concert and spent the first seven innings trying to get a VCR to work so that I could completely ignore the Sox. I ended up watching the eighth and ninth (just to see how they were going to lose) got totally into the game, the Sox won and I was so pumped I couldn't fall asleep until like 2:00 am running scenarios how the Sox could get back in this thing.

That Saturday and Sunday was a fucking journey.
 

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I can still remember the state of utter despair I was in after Game 3. After how the last season ended, this season is going to end like this? Not even putting up a fight? Pathetic.

The memory of Millar's walk, and Roberts' steal is still vivid in my mind. My mom, a Yankee fan, was trying to brighten my spirits, telling me "There you go Mike, they can still do it. Nothing is over yet." I shrugged it off, "Meh, they're just delaying the inevitable." Mueller singles, Roberts scores... it's a brand new ballgame. Maybe they still can do it. After Papi's HR, I was fully back in. Maybe Millar is onto something, we've got Petey, then Schilling, then who the hell knows what can happen.

The entire thing still feels surreal. The more I think about the 2003/2004 seasons, I truly believe that my sports fandom reached its apex as Foulke's underhand toss landed in Mientkiewicz's glove. There will never be anything like that again. Nothing will even come close. Not just for my sports teams, but for *any* sports teams. It feels like such a privilege to have lived through that experience.
 

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I am very jealous of everyone not old enough to have a rock bottom of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

Freshman in college, sitting home with mom, dad, and my younger brother (8th grade). The roller-coaster of that game finally seemed to turn the tide in our favor. Then a slow-motion car crash, followed by the floodgate of emotions opening as that winning run scored to pandemonium in New York. Dad turned off the TV, and nobody said a word. Then as my brother was leaving to head to bed, he said to me "we still have game seven". Dad replied deadpan, "No we don't. It's over." And it was.
 
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I was offered a ticket to Game 7 in 2003. I was contemplating a dash to the Fung Wah bus and a "figure out where to sleep later" experience. I thought better of it and watched at home. The ball left Boone's bat, and I turned off the TV before it landed. I still haven't seen that ball come down, though I know it must have. Had I been there, idk I may have gone to seek my glorious death in battle somewhere in the South Bronx that night.

During Game 3 in 2004 I came from a hockey game at Northeastern, another team perpetually down on their luck at the time, and took a seat at Bukowski Tavern during a still close game. It soon stopped being so, and I did something I had rarely done before and have rarely done since: drink to cover the pain. I made it home and decided that watching the games in public was the problem. Stayed home for the rest of the series, and the first two WS games. Went to St Louis for Game 3 and watched Pedro answer the "who's your daddy" cheers with a few more scoreless innings.
 

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I am very jealous of everyone not old enough to have a rock of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

Freshman in college, sitting home with mom, dad, and my younger brother (8th grade). The roller-coaster of that game finally seemed to turn the tide in our favor. Then a slow-motion car crash, followed by the floodgate of emotions opening as that winning run scored to pandemonium in New York. Dad turned off the TV, and nobody said a word. Then as my brother was leaving to head to bed, he said to me "we still have game seven". Dad replied deadpan, "No we don't. It's over." And it was.
I was at UVM. A few of us got in a guy's car and just drove up and down Rt 89 for a couple hours. I have no idea how we decided that was the thing to do. Probably seemed like the surest way to escape Mets fans.
 

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I was at UVM. A few of us got in a guy's car and just drove up and down Rt 89 for a couple hours. I have no idea how we decided that was the thing to do. Probably seemed like the surest way to escape Mets fans.
I hear that. Mets fans were ubiquitous on northeast college campuses in the fall of 86. More Mets hats on heads than leaves on the ground.
 

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Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS - I am a freshman in high school. Stayed up with my dad to watch the entire game 7 debacle, including the Boone walk off. As I cried, my dad said "This is just how it is with this team."
I was there. Hell was the 4 train back to Brooklyn at midnight after that game.

I eagerly await what I believe will be the next in a series of threads here. I would humbly suggest Juxtaposition, Catharsis, and Denouement, but in as in all things I defer to the artist.
 

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I hear that. Mets fans were ubiquitous on northeast college campuses in the fall of 86. More Mets hats on heads than leaves on the ground.
Ugh, this makes me want to puke. I, too was in college in '86. One of my roommates and I were working a function at a hotel the night of game 6. We had to stay late to clean up after the event ended, so the 2 of us sat in an otherwise empty function room playing cards and listening to the game on the radio. After the game ended, we both came upon the realization that we had to go back to campus where there were a shit ton of Mets fans (and Yankees fans too) waiting. That was a miserable few days for sure.
 

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I am very jealous of everyone not old enough to have a rock bottom of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

Freshman in college, sitting home with mom, dad, and my younger brother (8th grade). The roller-coaster of that game finally seemed to turn the tide in our favor. Then a slow-motion car crash, followed by the floodgate of emotions opening as that winning run scored to pandemonium in New York. Dad turned off the TV, and nobody said a word. Then as my brother was leaving to head to bed, he said to me "we still have game seven". Dad replied deadpan, "No we don't. It's over." And it was.
I was very much alive and sentient for 1986, that was my first real introduction to the inherent heartbreak of being a Sox fan. Both of the Buckner and Grady Little fuckups were much more significant and wounding than a 19-8 rout in a non-elimination playoff game, but then again, neither of the former were immediately followed by a stunning reversal of fortune that began later the following day, a day that occurred exactly nineteen years ago.
 

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I hear that. Mets fans were ubiquitous on northeast college campuses in the fall of 86. More Mets hats on heads than leaves on the ground.
I was a Sophomore in college and had suitemates across the foyer who were Mets fans. As soon as game 6 ended I bolted out of my room grabbing and pulling the door handle with a lot of anger...my face must have shown it as my suitemates were doing the same thing but to celebrate and when they saw me they all just backed away and let me pass. I drove around for about an hour then retreated to my buddies room where I pounded beer as well as my fist into the arm of the chair for about another 2 hours.
 

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I was very much alive and sentient for 1986, that was my first real introduction to the inherent heartbreak of being a Sox fan. Both of the Buckner and Grady Little fuckups were much more significant and wounding than a 19-8 rout in a non-elimination playoff game, but then again, neither of the former were immediately followed by a stunning reversal of fortune that began later the following day, a day that occurred exactly nineteen years ago.
I'm telling you guys, we have a reason to wake up tomorrow...
 

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I was very much alive and sentient for 1986, that was my first real introduction to the inherent heartbreak of being a Sox fan. Both of the Buckner and Grady Little fuckups were much more significant and wounding than a 19-8 rout in a non-elimination playoff game, but then again, neither of the former were immediately followed by a stunning reversal of fortune that began later the following day, a day that occurred exactly nineteen years ago.
The story is a little better when the zenith is ten days later rather than eighteen years.
 

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The more I think about the 2003/2004 seasons, I truly believe that my sports fandom reached its apex as Foulke's underhand toss landed in Mientkiewicz's glove. There will never be anything like that again. Nothing will even come close. Not just for my sports teams, but for *any* sports teams. It feels like such a privilege to have lived through that experience.
Absolutely, yes. With the modification, for myself at least, that with the Pats also winning it all in both 2003 and 2004, it was the apex of both my NFL/Pats and MLB/Sox fandoms. I watched every inning/minute of every game, I knew the rosters top to bottom, I knew all of the opponents rosters top to bottom, I was so heavily invested. Certainly helped that I was 22-23 at the time and it was my first two years in the "real world" with no other commitments or responsibilities. Perfect storm for sports fandom.
 

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I am very jealous of everyone not old enough to have a rock bottom of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.
My first taste of Sox disappointment was '78 when I was in 5th grade. I was a freshman in college in '86. That was rock bottom until the Sox continued to dig. Grady Little in '03 snatching defeat from the jaws of victory followed up by a thorough embarrassment of the first three games of the '04 ALCS - that was when the shovels got thrown away. It can't be rock bottom until you start coming out the other side can it? I have never been so dejected as I was leaving Fenway sometime in the midst of that game 3 trouncing. At the end of game 5 I was telling the usher in my CF bleacher section when I left that I'd see him on Saturday for game 1 of the series.
I hear that. Mets fans were ubiquitous on northeast college campuses in the fall of 86. More Mets hats on heads than leaves on the ground.
One of the Mets fans on our Northeast college campus found him self tackled by a bunch of angry Sox fans and the hat formerly on his head was taken and burned. He's just lucky that it was taken off his head before they did it.
 

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I was offered a ticket to Game 7 in 2003. I was contemplating a dash to the Fung Wah bus and a "figure out where to sleep later" experience. I thought better of it and watched at home. The ball left Boone's bat, and I turned off the TV before it landed. I still haven't seen that ball come down, though I know it must have. Had I been there, idk I may have gone to seek my glorious death in battle somewhere in the South Bronx that night.

During Game 3 in 2004 I came from a hockey game at Northeastern, another team perpetually down on their luck at the time, and took a seat at Bukowski Tavern during a still close game. It soon stopped being so, and I did something I had rarely done before and have rarely done since: drink to cover the pain. I made it home and decided that watching the games in public was the problem. Stayed home for the rest of the series, and the first two WS games. Went to St Louis for Game 3 and watched Pedro answer the "who's your daddy" cheers with a few more scoreless innings.
I had a very similar experience. I was sitting in the third row at the Toilet, just behind the MFY on-deck circle during ALCS #6 in 2003. Saw the ball come off Boone's bat and just knew instantly it was gone. Sprinted out of there as fast as I could straight for the subway.

I had a shot at tickets for all the games of the 2004 ALCS, but turned them down because I just couldn't. Even Game 7 in 2004, when it was 3-3. Because that was the before times, and I was a weaker human being.

I did have tickets for 2004 WS Game 5 in St. Louis... the unused ticket is encased in lucite on my desk as an enduring reminder of what a loser I am.

HONORABLE MENTION:
1.) I was in the bleachers for WS Game 7 in 1975 -- that really didn't suck too badly at all.
2.) I was alone in my den watching the playoff game in 1978, which was grim because I had been kicked off my high school soccer team the day before and was generally pissed off at the world. But my contempt for the MFY, profound at the time, had many more layers yet to grow over the next 25 years.
3.) I was in the stands at Shea for WS Game 6 in 1986. That was a huge nut punch, plus I got spit on by not one but two Met-fan cretins as I was sprinting for the subway. (That's a theme here). But not the worst, because there was still Game 7 to come.
4.) Back in the Shea grandstand for 1986 Game 6. Heartbreak, but again, not the worst because Game 6 had just happened and THAT was worse.
 
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The 19-8 game was my 30th birthday. It wasn't so great. That was two shitty birthdays in a row, as the previous year was the Boone/Grady game. One week later, I flew from DC to Boston to attend Game 1 of the Series at Fenway with my dad. Yesterday was my 49th birthday, and my folks visited us in DC for the weekend. We're all older than we were back in 2004, and I've got a 12 year old son now. I was thinking about it, and its hard to believe it'll be 20 years since then next year. So much has happened, and yet, in some ways it still feels like yesterday.
 

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I am very jealous of everyone not old enough to have a rock bottom of Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

Freshman in college, sitting home with mom, dad, and my younger brother (8th grade). The roller-coaster of that game finally seemed to turn the tide in our favor. Then a slow-motion car crash, followed by the floodgate of emotions opening as that winning run scored to pandemonium in New York. Dad turned off the TV, and nobody said a word. Then as my brother was leaving to head to bed, he said to me "we still have game seven". Dad replied deadpan, "No we don't. It's over." And it was.
'78 was bad. Very bad. But Game 6 '86 will forever be my personal nadir. I had graduated college in '84, but 3-4 of my fraternity brothers were close friends and Mets fans. We continued to stay in close touch throughout the Series even though we resided in different parts of the country.

That Mets team was so fucking obnoxious. And their fans were even worse.

My buddies knew how much of a diehard Sox fan I was. Out of respect, they really left me alone. The anguish was palpable miles and miles away...
 

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Luckily my best friend was getting married in LA during Game 3 so I was spared the utter disappointment. I was walking around the reception with a Watchman (ah, the days of no mobile streaming) swearing, but couldn't get too down. It hit me on the plane ride back the next day, and I just got more angry. By the time I got home, it was like the 5th inning of Game 4. I don't know about anyone else, but right after the elation of Papi's HR, I immediately got angry that they were going to make me watch them blow it the next day. Then, after Game 5, I got the confidence back.

Lowest point for me was Game 7 2003. I was 14 for Game 6 of 1986, so still young enough to not get too jaded. "We'll be back next year" was my thought. Then, they did make the playoffs a number of times through 80s and 90s, and with each failed attempt, I started to get more jaded. When 2003 happened, I was in a irrational depression for like a week.

And, I'm not in the same boat as Zupcic. I miss the intensity that I had, but I don't think that it's coming back.
 

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I've written this before, but it's fun to watch Pedro face Jeter leading off game 5. Pedro quickly goes 0-2 and then whiffs him on the next pitch. Most intense first batter crowd response I can ever remember. Crowd in a frenzy.
 

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Honestly I'm on an entirely different page from large sections of the fanbase in being not-that-depressed after 2003. I saw some pretty awesome moves by a rookie GM, bringing in some staples like Papi. Team looked like a team on the way up to me (narrator: it was). Sure, losing to the Yankees of all teams in a game 7 was rough, but watching them get steamrolled by Josh Beckett and The Guys took the edge off that. Felt like we were moving in the right direction finally, and I had faith in the new owners and baseball ops.

My 2004 nadir story. Gave up on the 19-8 game when it was clearly out of hand and forgot all about it. Next morning, still had my hat on leaving for work. Dropped the kid off at daycare and saw myself in the rearview and tossed my hat in the backseat, into his car seat. Was in my chair for game 4. Nest day I had to put the boy into his car seat and just buckled him on top of the hat. Hey, it worked for game 4. Hat stayed there until the 28th.

FWIW, the Pats winning in early 2002 really made it seem to me like everything was possible. Yeah, did not expect the 2004 comeback after being down 3-0, but that's why 1986 was the worst for me. It just felt like it would never happen.
 

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Fuck, I stopped being a Sox fan that day. Completely swore off the team. Watched the next eight games with a pure detached bemusement, wondering when the next/last shoe would drop. Really didn't know what to do with myself when it didn't. I was happy, I guess, but not like I would have been if game 3 hadn't happened.
 

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I was offered a ticket to Game 7 in 2003. I was contemplating a dash to the Fung Wah bus and a "figure out where to sleep later" experience. I thought better of it and watched at home. The ball left Boone's bat, and I turned off the TV before it landed. I still haven't seen that ball come down, though I know it must have.
Same. I was in Thirsty Scholar with a group of ten friends (we got there at opening to secure the tables) and I dropped my head as soon as it left the bat. To this day I've never seen in land in any replay. I was near catatonic after the place went silent; my friends were worried about me surviving the night. I do not remember how I got home, or when. That moment for me was rock bottom - I believed they had it that night and the way they lost it was so painful I just didn't know what to do.

I was at game 3 in 2004 and that was awful, but they weren't close yet....so I didn't believe they were going to win it in the same way I did being up in the eight inning of game 7 in 2003. The pain was less, and also diffused over so many hours given how the game went...by the time the last out happened I had somewhat come to grips with it. 2003 was so sudden in the end, and losing the lead in the eighth so painful.

I was young in 1986, but watched it and that was very painful for the same reason---one strike away, thought they had it, and then to lose it and in the way they did was just brutal. I remember I went up to my room and turned on the radio and the announcer on whatever station was saying "I apologize folks---the report was premature. The Red Sox did not win the world series tonight, they lost the game. But there's a game seven..." Can you imagine? Being young, I didn't feel it quite the same way, with the same desparation, I did in 2003 though.
 

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Two for me. 1 game playoff loss in 1978. I was 12 and if I recall correctly stayed home from school to watch. After Dent's HR (which, btw, was NOT the GWRBI, Reggie Jackson was responsible for that), I went out to the backyard in a rage and hit fungos with my aluminum bat to no one. My initiation into the very specific kind agony that sports can bring.

Next was game 7 2003. I was at that game in the centerfield bleachers. What may not have been clear if you were watching on TV was that when Little kept Pedro in the game, the crowd roared. 54,000 people knew it was a mistake, but poor ol' Grady was in freeze mode. The guy behind me screamed with glee, "The ghost of Babe Ruth is managing the Red Sox!!" My friends I were arguing if Pedro should come out for the seventh; I said yes, keep him until there is a hard hit base hit. He got out of the inning, but on three hard hit balls at people: clearly cooked. When he came out for the 8th, we were stunned, and then after Little's mound visit, the rest of the fucking night seemed pretty inevitable.

When Posada hit his bloop to tie it, the whole stadium was like 54,000 jumping beans, or a mosh pit - we were literally being tossed around as the crowd went berserk. When Little sent Wakefield out (RIP, one of my all time favs), it was another horrendous decision - tie game, extras, on the road, you don't put in a guy who is susceptible to giving up the long ball. We KNEW someone would hit one out. When it left Boone's bat we IMMEDIATELY ran for the exits, didn't even wait for the ball to land. I was literally screaming obscenities getting on to the subway - probably the most unhinged public behavior of my life.

Although ... come to think of it ...Buckner '86 is kinda there too.
 

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Game 7 in 2003 I stayed up on the radio in bed as a 11 year old and my mom found me crying in bed. Walked into class the next day and the teachers were despondent.

Can't remember 2004 that well but I think I had radio on for game 7 and game 4 WS. WS Game 1 I was there in the bleachers, I still vaguely remember Papi's HR.
 

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I was in the depths of section 41 in the bleachers for the 19-8 game in the 2004 ALCS. Stayed til the last pitch and had a 2+ hour drive back to western CT, hoping against hope they wouldn’t get swept. What an amazing ride the next week or so was.
 

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The ball left Boone's bat, and I turned off the TV before it landed. I still haven't seen that ball come down, though I know it must have. Had I been there, idk I may have gone to seek my glorious death in battle somewhere in the South Bronx that night.
I was working at a restaurant on Newbury Street. My managed told me to let all the tables know that we'd be closing at midnight, regardless of the game.

The very first table I approached: "Management would like you to know that we'll be closing soon, no matter what happens --oh. There you go."
 

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Related question: when did you climb out of the pit? For me it was 2004 game 6. Games 4 and 5 were cute but that was just the baseball side. Game 6 was when the ghosts left the building. The two overturned calls were like nothing I had ever believed was possible. Coming into game 7 I was sure the Yankees pitching was destroyed, and without a bunch of weird bullshit to save them they were done. I don't think I worried for one second of the Cardinals series. It was just a question of what day I was flying to Boston.

P.s. Bruce Hurst *was* the MVP of the 1986 World Series.
 

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Related question: when did you climb out of the pit? For me it was 2004 game 6. Games 4 and 5 were cute but that was just the baseball side. Game 6 was when the ghosts left the building. The two overturned calls were like nothing I had ever believed was possible. Coming into game 7 I was sure the Yankees pitching was destroyed, and without a bunch of weird bullshit to save them they were done. I don't think I worried for one second of the Cardinals series. It was just a question of what day I was flying to Boston.

P.s. Bruce Hurst *was* the MVP of the 1986 World Series.
Damon slam, I think. That was the ohmygodthisismaybehappening moment for me. I was still 100% terrified going into game 7. I was still 100% terrified after Sveum had the runner thrown out at the plate in the first. After Papi homered on like the next pitch, my only thought was that it should have been a 3 run homer, not 2. But when Damon hit the grand slam I thought... ohmygodthisismaybehappening.
 

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I was 12 in 1978 and I just remember being so mad at Yaz at the end of the 163rd game because he popped out with 2 guys on in a game that was 4-5, never mind that he had already homered during the game. That September was just a whirlwind, that Sox team had two 4 game losing streaks (one was a 4 game sweep by the MFY) then the Sox won 8 in a row to force the one-game playoff. That was brutal.
 

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When 2003 happened, I was in a irrational depression for like a week.
I had been working for a company in Charlotte for seven years by then. They knew me well enough that nobody talked to me for two months afterwards. I was just walking around the manufacturing floor muttering angrily to myself the whole time.
 

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Game 7, 2003, I was at Mugs in Williamsburg with a friend of mine. I've never been wound tighter than I was before that game - I could barely breathe. But we got seats at the bar and sat there for six hours watching the events unfold. When Grady brought in Wake, the bartender (a Sox fan) just shook his head and brought us the check. Which wound up at least enabling us to make a run for it when Boone connected - he just went straight to the subway and I started walking home. And exhaled - at least it was over. And we took them to extra innings in their ballpark and they only won it due to an idiot manager and a fluke HR. I got calls from a couple of Yankees fan friends checking in on my mental health - they sounded way worse than I did. It sucked but at least we didn't roll over - we took them as far as we could while still losing.

Anyway, last night I went back to the same bar with the same friend and sat in the same seats and raised a few for Wake.
 

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Game 7 2003---senior at Boston University, completely on the bandwagon. Had a big watch party at my place with my friends and roommates' friends. Many of roommates' friends were Yankee fans. As they go wild cheering as Boone's ball flies into the air, I get mad, start offering each of them 20 dollars if they leave right now. No one took me up on it, sadly.

The following year I was working in a lab in Spain, found one bar that was showing the playoffs. Watching a game meant I would be up most of the night due to the time difference, so when rainouts condensed the schedule I had to be strategic so I could still be semi-functional at work. On the walk home after Game 4 of the WS I think someone tried to mug me and I was too happy to let them. I just kept skipping on ahead.
 

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Game 7 2003---senior at Boston University, completely on the bandwagon. Had a big watch party at my place with my friends and roommates' friends. Many of roommates' friends were Yankee fans. As they go wild cheering as Boone's ball flies into the air, I get mad, start offering each of them 20 dollars if they leave right now. No one took me up on it, sadly.

The following year I was working in a lab in Spain, found one bar that was showing the playoffs. Watching a game meant I would be up most of the night due to the time difference, so when rainouts condensed the schedule I had to be strategic so I could still be semi-functional at work. On the walk home after Game 4 of the WS I think someone tried to mug me and I was too happy to let them. I just kept skipping on ahead.
Side note: for the games I didn't watch, I would avoid checking ESPN and instead read the SOSH game threads to re-create the game.
 

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Game 6 in 1986 is still the low point for me. I was 16, in high school in rural central Mass. The Pats had gotten crushed in the Super Bowl earlier that year, but it was amazing they'd gotten that far. Between the Celtics winning it all and Doug Flutie beating Miami, it really felt like a great time to be a New England sports fan. (That was the Gordie Lockbaum era at Holy Cross, and Kermit Sharp was the second-leading scorer in Division III basketball at Clark. For a kid who got his info from the Worcester T&G sports pages, those were heady days.) It felt like the Sox' year. Game 6 killed that moment like a Sunday paper on a mosquito. I remember the stunned silence in the halls at school on Monday morning. Everyone knew the series was over. My mom, a die-hard Sox fan, grew up in New York, rooting for the baseball Giants, her father's team. We went to the city for Thanksgiving and had dinner with my great aunt and uncle, fair-weather fans, at best. They couldn't stop crowing about the goddamn Mets. Just awful.
 

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Game 7 2003---senior at Boston University, completely on the bandwagon. Had a big watch party at my place with my friends and roommates' friends. Many of roommates' friends were Yankee fans. As they go wild cheering as Boone's ball flies into the air, I get mad, start offering each of them 20 dollars if they leave right now. No one took me up on it, sadly.

The following year I was working in a lab in Spain, found one bar that was showing the playoffs. Watching a game meant I would be up most of the night due to the time difference, so when rainouts condensed the schedule I had to be strategic so I could still be semi-functional at work. On the walk home after Game 4 of the WS I think someone tried to mug me and I was too happy to let them. I just kept skipping on ahead.
My 78 situation that I mentioned earlier was at BU. I think BU had the highest percentage of NY/NJ residents at the time, something around 40%.
 

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03 Game 7 for me. I couldn’t take the stress and went to bed after Posadas bloop. I couldn’t mentally handle what was happening and what I knew was going to take place.
Went to bed and was staring at the ceiling in torment. 90 minutes later or so I break. I go downstairs and turn on the tv to see the final score. My tv when turned on would play the sound for about 3 seconds before the picture came on.

I has the magic touch. Power on, and I hear“And Boone hammers it to left..” Boone was on second by the time my picture was on. My tv was off before he hit third.

I was a miserable human being all winter. Had my first child in May before the 03 series and deep down I wasn’t as happy as I should have been.
The off-season Arod debacle was just a cherry on the top of the sh<t sundae.. or so I thought.

Didn’t breathe correctly again until Timlin got Jeter to ground out to Mueller with a great scoop by Minky to leave off the 8th in Game 7 of 04. I needed Jeter off the bases. Up 7 runs with 6 outs to go. It will never be Mike that again. I will never watch the RS with that level of fraught and emotional baggage ever again. I think, mostly, I am better off for it.
 

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Thanks so much for starting this thread, Rip. I love this stuff...Coming of age with my all out love for this team, it would have to be 1975, game 7.
Sophmore in high school, southeastern NH. Clipped dozens of Boston Globe articles, photos and box scores to keep with my huuuge baseball card collection.
Some of the photos made it on to my bedroom wall, including all of the color 8 x 10 photos of the the players (sans hats for reasons that I didn't understand) that my mom dutifully secured from the local Star Market. I had also become somewhat enamored of the Buffalo Heads, with Lee, Carbo, Jenkins, Willoughby, Wise and Ripley as my self-anointed heroes.
Pop-up Yaz, game...I did not cry, but I found resolve and a certain peace with my future as a fan.

Close second: 1986, game 6. 26 years old now, decent job, recently married, and I did cry.
 

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I was at the 19-8 game in RF just in front of the press boxes. Adding to the insult was that just about every Yankee batter tied or broke an ALCS record that night, which was loudly trumpeted over a loudspeaker to the clueless national press. The right field crowd started booing after every announcement, not in a good-natured razz, but a pissed off "shut the fuck up, why rub our faces in it!". The train ride home was dead silence.
I was 10 years old in '86 and didn't yet fathom what it meant to be a Sox fan. As painful as '03 was, I could chalk it up to an awful managing decision and a Sox team that objectively had overachieved. But Game 3 in '04 was my nadir. They signed Schilling and Foulke, traded Nomar for "Go For It Now" reinforcements, and STILL couldn't beat the fucking Yankees.
 

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I was at the 19-8 game in RF just in front of the press boxes. Adding to the insult was that just about every Yankee batter tied or broke an ALCS record that night, which was loudly trumpeted over a loudspeaker to the clueless national press. The right field crowd started booing after every announcement, not in a good-natured razz, but a pissed off "shut the fuck up, why rub our faces in it!". The train ride home was dead silence.
I was 10 years old in '86 and didn't yet fathom what it meant to be a Sox fan. As painful as '03 was, I could chalk it up to an awful managing decision and a Sox team that objectively had overachieved. But Game 3 in '04 was my nadir. They signed Schilling and Foulke, traded Nomar for "Go For It Now" reinforcements, and STILL couldn't beat the fucking Yankees.
I was at that game, as well. I managed to get seats in the 406 Club from a friend who had them for business. I remember sitting next to a Mets fan who was somehow as miserable as I was.
The ride back to CT was long. The days at work in New Haven, clear Yankees territory, were worse.
 

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Thanks so much for starting this thread, Rip. I love this stuff...Coming of age with my all out love for this team, it would have to be 1975, game 7.
Sophmore in high school, southeastern NH. Clipped dozens of Boston Globe articles, photos and box scores to keep with my huuuge baseball card collection.
Some of the photos made it on to my bedroom wall, including all of the color 8 x 10 photos of the the players (sans hats for reasons that I didn't understand) that my mom dutifully secured from the local Star Market. I had also become somewhat enamored of the Buffalo Heads, with Lee, Carbo, Jenkins, Willoughby, Wise and Ripley as my self-anointed heroes.
Pop-up Yaz, game...I did not cry, but I found resolve and a certain peace with my future as a fan.

Close second: 1986, game 6. 26 years old now, decent job, recently married, and I did cry.
I’m just about the same age (off by a couple of years) so this resonates with me. Having said that, ‘75 hurt, but wasn’t the nadir. Same with ‘78, in the sense that the August/September swoon rattled me to the point that I was skeptical about the ferocious late-season run to force the one game playoff. And stoic about the result.

Game 6 in ‘86 has to be it for me. I’m 24, have just started my first job out of grad school and the improbable ALCS win over the Angels has turned me into a believer. I have a very good memory - like near photographic - but the pain of game 6 was such that I can’t even remember where I was to watch that game. Absolutely no memory. Same with game 7.

Game 3 of the ALCS in 2004 was close. I watched the game in a bar and literally walked out as the Yankees poured it on. The numbness I felt heading home that night had me questioning why I let this franchise get to me this much. I recovered my equilibrium in time to watch game 4, but, just like in 78, my expectations were low …