McCourty Resigned: 5yrs/$47.5m with $28.5m guaranteed

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Don't see how Revis can get done now, though. Maybe that fell through and they jumped on this one.
 

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$9.5 million average value would put him at #2 just below Earl Thomas, who is at $10 million per year, and above Jairus Byrd at $9 million per.
 
I wonder what his other offers were.
 

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet  43s43 seconds ago
#Patriots S Devin McCourty will sign a 5-year, $47.5M contract, source said. Wow. And... turned down more elsewhere
 
 
Need to see details of course but...the man certainly got paid.  In my laymen's opinion DMac is all-pro caliber at safety.  His ability to plan man coverage so well like the CB he used to be is an added bonus for a guy like BB.  He's one of the smartest guys on the team.  You rarely saw QBs throw at Revis but you also rarely saw them throw at McCourty.  Just a great player and a perfect fit for the Pats.  Thrilled to have him back.
 

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Always Mr negative.
Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both. And McCourty got a pretty big deal it would seem.
 

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I'm going to guess about $25 million guaranteed, $12.5m signing bonus, and $6.8m cap hit in 2015. Just guessing.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both.
They can keep Revis by restructuring other players and dumping some dead weight. Not difficult.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both. And McCourty got a pretty big deal it would seem.
Let's see what the real money is though aka the guaranteed money.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Don't see how Revis can get done now, though. Maybe that fell through and they jumped on this one.
If they reach a deal with Revis, they can then cut him but hold off on signing the new deal until the new league year starts, after which they could free space. For example, they can save nearly 6.5M by cutting Mayo and designating him post-June 1st (assuming Mayo passed a physical).
 

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jsinger121 said:
They can keep Revis by restructuring other players and dumping some dead weight. Not difficult.
That's a pretty general statement. You'll find it's more difficult than you think when you look at the actual specifics, I think. But maybe Revis has a lower market than we all thought and makes it a bit easier.
 

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Everyone says the Pats don't pay top guys but they just made McCourty the 2nd highest paid safety in the game behind Earl Thomas. They pay for premium talent and I expect them to do the same for Revis.
 

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jsinger121 said:
Everyone says the Pats don't pay top guys but they just made McCourty the 2nd highest paid safety in the game behind Earl Thomas. They pay for premium talent and I expect them to do the same for Revis.
 
Is McCourty the 2nd best safety in the league?
 

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jsinger121 said:
Everyone says the Pats don't pay top guys but they just made McCourty the 2nd highest paid safety in the game behind Earl Thomas. They pay for premium talent and I expect them to do the same for Revis.
 
Yeah, can we bury this one, along with the "guys don't take less money/hometown discounts" one?
 

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Is McCourty the 2nd best safety in the league?
I think you can make a real good case for him. He's not Earl Thomas but not many are. Outside of a healthy Eric Berry I don't see many safeties ahead of him other than Earl Thomas.
 

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@DougKyedNESN: Devin McCourty helped convince Vince Wilfork to remain with the Patriots last offseason. Perhaps he'll try the same tactics on Revis.
 

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@MarkdominikESPN: On NFL live w/ Trey Wingo we talked how Pats must have something working with McCourty. Now it's clear and good by them to keep both players
"both"?
 
Do they know something that hasn't been released yet?
 

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Morgan said:
Safeties age pretty well so hopefully this works out OK. We're getting his age 28-32 years which would be an issue with some other positions.
It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
By year 4 and 5 of the deal the salary cap could be pushing close to 200 million.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
That sounds right. It's probably a 3-4 year deal for all practical purposes. Hopefully they didn't go crazy with the bonus money.
 

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DennyDoyle'sBoil said:
It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
 
I agree with you about year 5 since I assume the hit will be artificially low in 2015 but I'm waiting to see the details for year 4.  With the amount the cap has gone up recently if it's in the $11M range and he's still playing at a high level then it could be reasonable.
 

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Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
If they reach a deal with Revis, they can then cut him but hold off on signing the new deal until the new league year starts, after which they could free space. For example, they can save nearly 6.5M by cutting Mayo and designating him post-June 1st (assuming Mayo passed a physical).
We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.
 

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@PhilAPerry: McCourty says he spoke to Revis, told him he wants him back in New England. But won't pressure him. Understands it's a business.
 

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@NEPD_Loyko: Key to McCourty deal will likely be lower cap hit in years 1 and 2.. Prob big roster bonus before year 3. That would allow for Revis cap hit
 

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Ed Hillel said:
We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.
He'll get 8-9 in cash, but cap hit will be in the 5 range.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.
I think the hit will be smaller but I agree with the overall point that there isn't a ton of room to maneuver.
 

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@jeffphowe: Re-signing McCourty does not financially hinder the Patriots' ability to also keep Revis, for those who've been asking.
 

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I think the hit will be smaller but I agree with the overall point that there isn't a ton of room to maneuver.
Signing Revis will give the team around $10 million in cap space. Restructuring Mayo down to just injury guarantee gives them around $5 million. Cutting Amendola gives them $3 million or so. Wilfork gave them around $8 million.

They'll be fine.
 

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Signing Revis will give the team around $10 million in cap space. Restructuring Mayo down to just injury guarantee gives them around $5 million. Cutting Amendola gives them $3 million or so. Wilfork gave them around $8 million.

They'll be fine.
They were about 4.4 over before McCourty, so let's say they are about ten over. If they can get Revis to a 15 million hit this season (including the 5 dead), it probably would be manageable, but still very tight. I was thinking before Revis would get silly money offers (18 million or so), but if they're in the 14 range, maybe it can get done.