@RapSheet: #Patriots S Devin McCourty will sign a 5-year, $47.5M contract, source said. Wow. And... turned down more elsewhere
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#Patriots S Devin McCourty will sign a 5-year, $47.5M contract, source said. Wow. And... turned down more elsewhere
Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both. And McCourty got a pretty big deal it would seem.jsinger121 said:Always Mr negative.
They can keep Revis by restructuring other players and dumping some dead weight. Not difficult.Ed Hillel said:Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both.
Let's see what the real money is though aka the guaranteed money.Ed Hillel said:Not really, I'm usually quite positive. I'm just saying what most of us were a few days ago about not being able to afford both. And McCourty got a pretty big deal it would seem.
If they reach a deal with Revis, they can then cut him but hold off on signing the new deal until the new league year starts, after which they could free space. For example, they can save nearly 6.5M by cutting Mayo and designating him post-June 1st (assuming Mayo passed a physical).Ed Hillel said:Don't see how Revis can get done now, though. Maybe that fell through and they jumped on this one.
That's a pretty general statement. You'll find it's more difficult than you think when you look at the actual specifics, I think. But maybe Revis has a lower market than we all thought and makes it a bit easier.jsinger121 said:They can keep Revis by restructuring other players and dumping some dead weight. Not difficult.
jsinger121 said:Everyone says the Pats don't pay top guys but they just made McCourty the 2nd highest paid safety in the game behind Earl Thomas. They pay for premium talent and I expect them to do the same for Revis.
Yes, yes he is.theapportioner said:Is McCourty the 2nd best safety in the league?
theapportioner said:
Is McCourty the 2nd best safety in the league?
jsinger121 said:Everyone says the Pats don't pay top guys but they just made McCourty the 2nd highest paid safety in the game behind Earl Thomas. They pay for premium talent and I expect them to do the same for Revis.
I think you can make a real good case for him. He's not Earl Thomas but not many are. Outside of a healthy Eric Berry I don't see many safeties ahead of him other than Earl Thomas.theapportioner said:
Is McCourty the 2nd best safety in the league?
"both"?RedOctober3829 said:@MarkdominikESPN: On NFL live w/ Trey Wingo we talked how Pats must have something working with McCourty. Now it's clear and good by them to keep both players
It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.Morgan said:Safeties age pretty well so hopefully this works out OK. We're getting his age 28-32 years which would be an issue with some other positions.
By year 4 and 5 of the deal the salary cap could be pushing close to 200 million.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
jsinger121 said:By year 4 and 5 of the deal the salary cap could be pushing close to 200 million.
That sounds right. It's probably a 3-4 year deal for all practical purposes. Hopefully they didn't go crazy with the bonus money.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
DennyDoyle'sBoil said:It's going to be a big hit to keep him in years 4 and 5, I would think, without extending and renegotiating with him. This sounds like a 3 year $28.5 million deal for the most part, spreading about $6 million in dead money into years 4 and 5 for year 1-3 cap savings.. Assuming a 12.5m to 15m signing bonus, I would think amortized bonus plus base salary in years 4 and 5 are going to be in the $12.5 million per year range if not more.
We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:If they reach a deal with Revis, they can then cut him but hold off on signing the new deal until the new league year starts, after which they could free space. For example, they can save nearly 6.5M by cutting Mayo and designating him post-June 1st (assuming Mayo passed a physical).
He'll get 8-9 in cash, but cap hit will be in the 5 range.Ed Hillel said:We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.
I think the hit will be smaller but I agree with the overall point that there isn't a ton of room to maneuver.Ed Hillel said:We have to see McCourty's cap hit this year, which I think will tell us quite a bit about where they think they stand with Revis. If it's 8-9 this season, even the Amendola and Mayo post June cuts wouldn't be enough, when you consider holes/draft picks etc. Gonna be interesting, for sure.
Signing Revis will give the team around $10 million in cap space. Restructuring Mayo down to just injury guarantee gives them around $5 million. Cutting Amendola gives them $3 million or so. Wilfork gave them around $8 million.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:I think the hit will be smaller but I agree with the overall point that there isn't a ton of room to maneuver.
They were about 4.4 over before McCourty, so let's say they are about ten over. If they can get Revis to a 15 million hit this season (including the 5 dead), it probably would be manageable, but still very tight. I was thinking before Revis would get silly money offers (18 million or so), but if they're in the 14 range, maybe it can get done.RedOctober3829 said:Signing Revis will give the team around $10 million in cap space. Restructuring Mayo down to just injury guarantee gives them around $5 million. Cutting Amendola gives them $3 million or so. Wilfork gave them around $8 million.
They'll be fine.