Manning Legacy: Scrotal Recall

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AGAIN, I'm not suggesting Florio is correct in his analysis. I'm suggesting his analysis involves something he considers to be a legal difference. I'm not sure why we have to believe he's carrying water for Peyton or protecting his corner of NBC. He could be WRONG, that's fine, you guys sure sound far less in the weeds than I admittedly and absolutely am on this front. Florio (and his sizable ego) could very well be slapping on his big boy lawyer pants, and getting the legal of it all kinds of wrong. I just don't doubt the sincerity of his take, however off-base it may be. He's given people very little reason to assume he's shilling for anyone other than himself and PFT Nation.

EDIT: This, to be clear, is what I'm referring to...

"There are 2 King Daily News articles. IANAL but today's article by King seems to have misrepresented what the judge's statements meant. The judge only meant that there's enough material in the dispute that the court's and the jury's valuable time and attention should be devoted to hearing the case."
Just denying the motion to dismiss means, generally, what you quote. The language quoted from the judge's opinion goes a lot further.
 

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AGAIN, I'm not suggesting Florio is correct in his analysis. I'm suggesting his analysis involves something he considers to be a legal difference. I'm not sure why we have to believe he's carrying water for Peyton or protecting his corner of NBC. He could be WRONG, that's fine, you guys sure sound far less in the weeds than I admittedly and absolutely am on this front. Florio (and his sizable ego) could very well be slapping on his big boy lawyer pants, and getting the legal of it all kinds of wrong. I just don't doubt the sincerity of his take, however off-base it may be. He's given people very little reason to assume he's shilling for anyone other than himself and PFT Nation.

EDIT: This, to be clear, is what I'm referring to...

"There are 2 King Daily News articles. IANAL but today's article by King seems to have misrepresented what the judge's statements meant. The judge only meant that there's enough material in the dispute that the court's and the jury's valuable time and attention should be devoted to hearing the case."
Just denying the motion to dismiss means, generally, what you quote. The language quoted from the judge's opinion goes a lot further.
 

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My normal radio show went to commercial so I switched to ESPN radio and was shocked to hear Greenberg mention the Peyton Manning fiasco. He very strongly worded that the allegations would be a big deal IF TRUE but made sure to stay away from any judgement. Jalen Rose then started saying that, as someone who's been on the trainer's table a lot in his life, that it is physically impossible to moon someone... and Greenberg interrupted and immediately cut to commercial. It was an extremely awkward cut and when they came back they went straight to basketball.

It isn't exactly news that ESPN is in Manning's corner, but I thought it was interesting how they were trying to appear impartial by discussing the sexual assault allegations but showed their true colors the moment someone was ready to say that he thought Manning was guilty.

I also thought it was interesting how, in bringing up the sexual assault allegations, Greenberg went out of his way to say that he doesn't believe the HGH allegations and even if they're true it doesn't matter.
 

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I wouldn't put that on ESPN - that is probably just Greeny. I doubt ESPN would have to tell him to stay away from the issue. He avoids confrontation or criticizing potential guests at all costs.

I didn't hear it, but upthread some people said that Golic ripped into Manning yesterday.
 

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Leaving in a bit to the studio :)
Kate Fagan just deflected most everything toward the school, failing to mention a number of salient points:

mentioned several times Peyton's version in the book, and Naughright's subsequent lawsuit, but failed to include that the reason it's a big deal is because of the NDA;

no mention of the smear campaign vs Naughright;

no mention at all of how the Mannings were allegedly involved in a cover up/hush campaign.

Gist was that UTennessee allows bad things to happen, especially to women.

CONTEXT: they teased "Peyton Manning Lawsuit" in the sidebar from the moment they went on the air at 9AM, until they threw it to Fagan at 9:18.
 
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Kate Fagan just deflected most everything toward the school, failing to mention a number of salient points:

mentioned several times Peyton's version in the book, and Naughright's subsequent lawsuit, but failed to include that the reason it's a big deal is because of the NDA;

no mention of the smear campaign vs Naughright;

no mention at all of how the Mannings were allegedly involved in a cover up/hush campaign.

Gist was that UTennessee allows bad things to happen, especially to women.

This is honestly shocking to me that any woman that works in sports could defend him. The man IN HIS OWN BOOK (so they can all spare that bullshit of "it's one sided document" bla bla bla) basically said that woman shouldn't be allowed in the men's locker room for any reason. Not to do their job, not to do anything. And if they do end up in there, they damn well better not complain and take everything that happens to them with a smile
 
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Kate Fagan just deflected most everything toward the school, failing to mention a number of salient points:
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Gist was that UTennessee allows bad things to happen, especially to women.

I think from that we can conclude that the current publicity derives from the new UT lawsuit and the plaintiffs' lawyers hiring an excellent PR firm. It may not be focused on taking Peyton Manning down, although if that happens as an incidental effect they wouldn't be upset by it.
 

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This is honestly shocking to me that any woman that works in sports could defend him. The man IN HIS OWN BOOK (so they can all spare that bullshit of "it's one sided document" bla bla bla) basically said that woman shouldn't be allowed in the men's locker room for any reason. Not to do their job, not to do anything. And if they do end up in there, they damn well better not complain and take everything that happens to them with a smile
Holding Archie and Peyton accountable for a book they did not write simply because they agreed to put their name on it is conclusive proof that Shaun King is a biased liar.

BTW, I heard that Shaun King was being considered for a job at Al-Jazeera.
 

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Holding Archie and Peyton accountable for a book they did not write simply because they agreed to put their name on it is conclusive proof that Shaun King is a biased liar.

BTW, I heard that Shaun King was being considered for a job at Al-Jazeera.
The Manning's crafted and approved everything that is in their book.
 

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Holding Archie and Peyton accountable for a book they did not write simply because they agreed to put their name on it is conclusive proof that Shaun King is a biased liar.

BTW, I heard that Shaun King was being considered for a job at Al-Jazeera.
Insert "Not sure if Serious" Joker meme here.
 

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I believe Manning is 100% guilty of everything he has been accused of. What can we do now? Take his rings and passing records away. Do an ice bucket challenge or wear moon colored clothing to raise awareness for tea bagging victims (can we get rich from this like the pink clothes lady?) can Lipton sponsor us and we'll do a tea bags are for tea cups not foreheads campaign? Where do we go from here?
 

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I believe Manning is 100% guilty of everything he has been accused of. What can we do now? Take his rings and passing records away. Do an ice bucket challenge or wear moon colored clothing to raise awareness for tea bagging victims (can we get rich from this like the pink clothes lady?) can Lipton sponsor us and we'll do a tea bags are for tea cups not foreheads campaign? Where do we go from here?
I'd be happy not to see his big ugly head on my TV anymore.
 

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I believe Manning is 100% guilty of everything he has been accused of. What can we do now? Take his rings and passing records away. Do an ice bucket challenge or wear moon colored clothing to raise awareness for tea bagging victims (can we get rich from this like the pink clothes lady?) can Lipton sponsor us and we'll do a tea bags are for tea cups not foreheads campaign? Where do we go from here?
This is like asking "what we can do?" about Bill Cosby.

Peyton's discomfort is our reward. The rest (virtually everything) is out of our hands.
 

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I believe Manning is 100% guilty of everything he has been accused of. What can we do now? Take his rings and passing records away. Do an ice bucket challenge or wear moon colored clothing to raise awareness for tea bagging victims (can we get rich from this like the pink clothes lady?) can Lipton sponsor us and we'll do a tea bags are for tea cups not foreheads campaign? Where do we go from here?
I would be happy if some sponsors, the League and the general public come to realize that Payton Manning is no tower of virtue like the League has represented him to be over the years. He is noted as an adulterer. This incident and the resulting smear campaign against the woman, the HGH allegations all point to the fact that his image is not what has been portrayed. For whatever reason, he is still the League darling and I would just like to see them recognise this and not make him the face of this League. But maybe that is just too much to ask.
 

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I would love to see how mad manning is at this. His perfectly curated persona being questioned.

Guaranteed he's murdering neighborhood kittens.
 

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Well too bad. Every major network is courting him for an NFL gig.
Is this true? I know it's been repeated that he's a #1 choice, he's going to take Simms' job etc. I haven't seen a reference for it from anywhere semi-official outside of people assuming it's true.
 

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I believe Manning is 100% guilty of everything he has been accused of. What can we do now? Take his rings and passing records away. Do an ice bucket challenge or wear moon colored clothing to raise awareness for tea bagging victims (can we get rich from this like the pink clothes lady?) can Lipton sponsor us and we'll do a tea bags are for tea cups not foreheads campaign? Where do we go from here?

The obvious answer is taking away Denver's first round pick and $1M.
 

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Is this true? I know it's been repeated that he's a #1 choice, he's going to take Simms' job etc. I haven't seen a reference for it from anywhere semi-official outside of people assuming it's true.
I can't imagine Manning getting a TV gig, unless new evidence emerges that casts doubt on these allegations.
 

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Ray Lewis only participated in a murder, which doesn't garner much outrage on the internet.
 

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I can't imagine Manning getting a TV gig, unless new evidence emerges that casts doubt on these allegations.
You may be right but between (a) the awesome cognitive dissonance that Peyton enjoys and (b) the fact that the likes of Ray Lewis and, in a much different but related to Manning sense, Rodney Harrison, have jobs in TV suggests to me that we may be stuck with Peyton behind the mike notwithstanding the current stink. And the circumstances are very different but we all remember when most people assumed that Marv Albert's career in television was over.

And in a twisted way, I could see some TV execs being unable to resist the "traffic accident" aspect of Manning. They might think that viewers will turn in to see the freak show. And I would venture that they will also think, and in fact be right that, a huge swath of football fans could give two craps about these allegations.

Edit: Beaten to the general punch.....
 

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You may be right but between (a) the awesome cognitive dissonance that Peyton enjoys and (b) the fact that the likes of Ray Lewis and, in a much different but related to Manning sense, Rodney Harrison, have jobs in TV suggests to me that we may be stuck with Peyton behind the mike notwithstanding the current stink. And the circumstances are very different but we all remember when most people assumed that Marv Albert's career in television was over.
Marv Albert is still working in TV because a tape surfaced of his alleged victim offering money to a potential witness in exchange for false testimony. If there's a similar bombshell in the Manning case that casts doubt on his accuser's credibility, then yeah, he might get a TV gig.
 

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Is this true? I know it's been repeated that he's a #1 choice, he's going to take Simms' job etc. I haven't seen a reference for it from anywhere semi-official outside of people assuming it's true.
I don't see how it could work with him taking Simms job. Who would handle the play by play? Nantz will be on his knees and his mouth otherwise too occupied to do it.

and Marciano, I love you.
 

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Marv Albert is still working in TV because a tape surfaced of his alleged victim offering money to a potential witness in exchange for false testimony. If there's a similar bombshell in the Manning case that casts doubt on his accuser's credibility, then yeah, he might get a TV gig.
he is still going to get a TV gig unless something fool proof comes out that he 1000% cannot deny... we might as well accept that he will be gracing our TV's for the next 30 years
 

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I mean like he did something horrible while in the NFL. not something "so long ago". We saw how far the HGH stuff wen't (nowhere)
I'm not sure what you're saying here, but I was responding to your statement "unless something fool proof comes out that he 1000% cannot deny" with the fact that he cannot discuss (deny) this case due to the confidentiality agreement between he and Dr. Naughright.
 

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he is still going to get a TV gig unless something fool proof comes out that he 1000% cannot deny... we might as well accept that he will be gracing our TV's for the next 30 years
CBS may want him, but he's not going to drive massive eyeballs to listen to him pontificate. However if this story gains a little traction in the right places that network will not want to deal with their advertisers getting blowback.
 
he is still going to get a TV gig unless something fool proof comes out that he 1000% cannot deny... we might as well accept that he will be gracing our TV's for the next 30 years
I keep hearing this but does he even want a TV gig? A lot of other media sites (CBS Sports, Fox, Sporting News) claim he wants to get into a management position with an ownership stake. That's why he's constantly constantly been linked to both the Titans and Browns.
 

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Peydirt is the name of his company? Boo that man.

And Polian's definition of smear is as inaccurate as his definition of pass interference.