a lot more at the link .. Really good read and worth your timeBROWNSBURG, Ind. — Five days before a documentary alleged thatquarterback Peyton Manning and other star athletes had used performance-enhancing drugs, two men hired by Manning’s lawyers visited the parents of the documentary’s key witness. Both men wore black overcoats and jeans and, according to a 911 call from the house that evening, one initially said he was a law enforcement officer but didn’t have a badge.
After they told their daughter to call 911 the night of Dec. 22, Randall and Judith Sly stepped outside to talk to the strangers, who clarified they were private investigators, not cops. They had come to this red brick house with a well-manicured lawn looking for the Slys’ 31-year-old son, Charlie, a pharmacist who was the primary source in the upcoming documentary.
The revelation of the visit to the Slys’ home in this rural, upper middle class suburb is another in what has been a series of strange twists and turns since the Al Jazeera documentary, “The Dark Side: The Secret World of Sports Doping,” first aired. In the documentary, Sly boasted about helping pro football and baseball players cheat. In one scene, Sly implied that Manning took human growth hormone prescribed by an Indianapolis anti-aging clinic and shipped to Manning’s wife, Ashley.
Manning and most of the other athletes named in the report have denied taking banned substances. Sly has since recanted his accusations, which were recorded by Al Jazeera without his knowledge.
Sly’s claims have spurred investigations from the NFL and Major League Baseball that likely will take months. But the first investigation of Sly came before the documentary even aired, and was bankrolled by Manning, who will lead the Denver Broncos against the Carolina Panthers in Sunday’s Super Bowl.
#JLawGifThe lawyer who visited the Guyer Institute did not remove any records, Fleischer said, and Manning’s investigators in no way influenced or coerced Sly into issuing his recanting statement, which he recorded Dec. 24, the day after they had questioned him.
http://deadspin.com/private-eyes-spook-parents-of-manning-hgh-accuser-in-91-1757224765?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflowthe parents of a former Indianapolis anti-aging clinic employee who made hidden-camera accusations about Peyton Manning’s alleged HGH use called 9-1-1 after goons turned up on their doorstep seeking information about their pharmacist son, Charlie Sly.
That’s just one of the revelations in a Washington Post report today in which, for the first time, a Manning spokesperson admits that part of Sly’s story was true: that the Guyer Clinic in Indianapolis did indeed ship drugs to Manning’s house as alleged by Al-Jazeera America’s documentary and later by the documentary’s producer. Manning had previously called those claims “completely fabricated.” The Manning camp refused to discuss the issue further with the Post, citing Ashley Manning’s medical privacy.
But back to that 9-1-1 call. The Washington Post reports the investigation—which was funded by Peyton Manning—featured two private dicks knocking on Randall and Judith Sly’s door—with one of them, according to the call, falsely claiming to be a cop.
The Washington Post reports Manning’s private investigation into Sly began before the documentary aired, as the network sought responses from those alleged by Sly to have used performance-enhancing drugs. The paper also reports that Al-Jazeera failed to adequately protect the identity of its sources, which led Manning’s camp (led by former George W. Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer) to the Slys’ doorstep. Manning’s spooks refused to reveal their employer to the Slys, according to the Washington Post.
Charlie Sly recanted his claims the next morning in a video filmed at his parents’ dining room table. The private investigators claim they did not impersonate law enforcement officers upon arriving at the house.
It's not the Al-Washington Post. They can't sweep it under the rug.Inside Peyton Manning’s secret investigation into Al Jazeera documentary
(WAshington Post)
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this makes manning look REALLY bad.. NFL will still sweep it under the rug though
Wait, so then is it also possible that what all the world thought was completely incompetent play earlier in the season was just a fiendishly clever suggestion that he would retire so that his PED usage should be ignored?He probably hoped the thinly veiled leaks about retirement would call off the dogs.
Innocent people don't behave this way. This story is so juicy, and investigative reporters aren't done yet...with the Super Bowl this weekend, the Post printed what they had so far.When will athletes learn? Just say no comment and move on, or make a joke about it.
Issuing categorical denials and smearing reporters when you are not clean is the dumbest strategy in the book. And make no mistake, whether the HGH story is true or not, the fact that Peyton hired goons to intimidate Sly's family means his hands are not clean.
No matter the outcome of the NFL's investigation, Peyton has irreparably damaged himself. Not even Jim Nantz can help him now.
Thanks Ben.Innocent people don't behave this way. This story is so juicy, and investigative reporters aren't done yet...with the Super Bowl this weekend, the Post printed what they had so far.
Its the NFL... They will find a way to discredit the WaPostIt's not the Al-Washington Post. They can't sweep it under the rug.
Bingo. This looks baaaaaaad.He probably hoped the thinly veiled leaks about retirement would call off the dogs.
Jim Nantz is calling this game, right?I'll bet $50 at some point during the SB broadcast Peyton is given praise or sympathy for dealing with this leading up to his potential last game.
Nantz already did that during the game against the Pats ... even mentioned the HGH storyI'll bet $50 at some point during the SB broadcast Peyton is given praise or sympathy for dealing with this leading up to his potential last game.
And I'm saying neither this story nor anything that comes out between now and Sunday will change that narrative.Nantz already did that during the game against the Pats ... even mentioned the HGH story
I agree completely. Just saying that the bet you offered seems like a no-brainer since Nantz already went down that roadAnd I'm saying neither this story nor anything that comes out between now and Sunday will change that narrative.
Stop harshing my score. This forum is filled with crazy optimists who've ignored the last year.I agree completely. Just saying that the bet you offered seems like a no-brainer since Nantz already went down that road
If I was super naive I could almost buy most of what the manning/sly camp is selling here, but everything falls apart when they try to portray the Teagarden interaction as anything other than what it so clearly was. This is going to get really interesting.From WaPo piece:
Fleischer declined to specify whether the medication was human growth hormone, which is banned by professional sports leagues and only legal to prescribe in America for a few specific conditions, such as growth hormone deficiency, HIV wasting syndrome and short bowel syndrome.
"such as"? Isn't that the whole list of approved indications?
Later on...
In another scene, Taylor Teagarden, a journeyman catcher who played with the Chicago Cubs, is waiting outside Sly’s apartment. Once inside, Teagarden talks about taking Delta-2.
Teagarden did not reply to requests for comment. Cohron claims Teagarden was lying to help Sly appear to be a steroid dealer.
Well, that doesn't really make sense. Sly says in the documentary that the great thing about Delta-2 is that he just had to tell the athletes about the website where they could buy it. That way Sly kept his hands clean as he wasn't distributing anything himself.
There's only one kind of goon NFL players ought to hire.Issuing categorical denials and smearing reporters when you are not clean is the dumbest strategy in the book. And make no mistake, whether the HGH story is true or not, the fact that Peyton hired goons to intimidate Sly's family means his hands are not clean.
I don't think it will change it among media types. But it will absolutely change it among the public.And I'm saying neither this story nor anything that comes out between now and Sunday will change that narrative.
Of course only innocent men send goons to the house of his dealer's parents.
Did they look like this?Inside Peyton Manning’s secret investigation into Al Jazeera documentary
(WAshington Post)
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this makes manning look REALLY bad.. NFL will still sweep it under the rug though
Yeah I think it's pretty likely there was a payoff and it's not getting enough attention. The family called 911. Then when cops showed up they said there was nothing wrong. What else could these strange intimidating men done in between? The Sly family just decided they enjoyed a conversation with two men asking questions about their son. And the men wouldn't identify who sent them but that wasn't concerning?What's going to be annoying is two years from now, after Manning has a statue outside of ESPN, when it comes out that Manning paid Sly $200,000 to recant "everything" he said without knowing what had been recorded, and after his wife divorces him and reveals that the HGH was never for her.
Not only that, but let's take this a little further. If this is all to be believed and he is just bragging to potential business partners about something that he has no idea about then why the hell would a pharmacist and physician talk about how great he is? Did he blindly go to them and pay them off to come over to his house at that exact time and basically read a script about how great he is? That entire last section of the WaPo story disproves everything the Manning team is trying to sell us about Charlie SlyIt doesn't make any sense. He was bragging about illegal activities to impress a potential business partner? That just doesn't pass the smell test. Why in the world would he think that illegally providing HGH would somehow make his business more attractive if he wasn't actually doing that? That is almost exactly the opposite of what someone would actually do.
Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us.As noted on EEI this morning, last year at this time, the Patriots "cheating" led not only ESPN's broadcasts, but national news broadcasts.
Last night, SportsCenter was on the air for 42 minutes before the anchor mentioned this story. And that report lasted 36 seconds.
If the NFL buys this story it gives a license to any player to ship HGH to their spouse any time they want to take it. Of course the NFL will only care if the public does and I don't think it's clear they do.All the talk at this point is window dressing. HGH was sent to Peyton Manning's house while he was trying to recover from an injury that many believed at the time could end his career. Eagle USA Flag America Newspaper has the reigns from Nucular Terrorist Daily Koran Cavetapes. Not good for Sheriff Fathead.
Outstanding.All the talk at this point is window dressing. HGH was sent to Peyton Manning's house while he was trying to recover from an injury that many believed at the time could end his career. Eagle USA Flag America Newspaper has the reigns from Nucular Terrorist Daily Koran Cavetapes. Not good for Sheriff Fathead.