Malcom Brown, DT

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRYc8iET4ZI&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop


It finally works.
 

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Polian says Brown was the best pick of the 1st round.

Shalise says it was "a bit of a surprise."
 

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Cameron Erving or Laken Tomlinson would have been options for the Patriots, had either made it to No. 32. But as it all worked out, you probably will not hear anyone complaining in Foxborough. New England closed Round 1 by taking Texas defensive lineman Malcom Brown, a 319-pounder with a quick first step. More importantly, Brown has the type of versatility that Bill Belichick craves up front—he can play a five-tech, a three-tech or even slide down and play nose. He'll fill some of the snaps vacated by Vince Wilfork's departure, but do so while offering more three-down potential than the run-stuffing veteran. Brown was productive at Texas, and he's a great value for New England here.
 
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/04/30/new-england-patriots-select-malcom-brown-2015-nfl-draft
 

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soxhop411 said:
@BenVolin: Malcom Brown is only 20 years old but is married with a 4-year-old step-daughter and an 8-month old daughter. Maturity
I guess that's a word for it
 

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Good stuff on Malcom and Faith here: http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/93117/despite-immense-talent-football-isnt-first-for-texas-malcom-brown
 
 
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/article18859686.html
 
“A lot went into it because I had to finish school, my wife had to finish school, so that took a lot of thought because both of us wanted to finish,” Brown said. “And I had to think about moving my family around, stuff like that. So, we sat down and talked and came up with the best decision was to come out.”
 
“It just gives me more (motivation),” Brown said. “I’m not just playing for myself anymore — I’m playing to support my family. I can’t just think about myself when I make decisions. I have to think about my daughters and my wife being supportive, so I have to give it my all.”
 
“I go out and I have fun,” Brown said. “I don’t go in with the mindset that it’s going to be a hard practice. I’m going in to have fun, (the) offense is gonna to have a hard time blocking me, I’m gonna get them in trouble. I’m gonna push them to do better. Coaches know I’m gonna practice hard.”
 
“I mean, I could have tacked on another good year,” Brown said. “(Declaring) wasn’t just striking when the iron’s hot, because I could have had another hot year. It was more just about talking to everybody, taking everything into consideration, and at the end of the day I just made a good decision.”
 
“Well, when I was growing up, I was just always around older folks — everybody said I was young but an old soul,” Brown said. “That’s just how I grew up. When I play, I know when it’s time to get serious and I know how to switch it on and off. I know how to get serious and take on responsibility. Just growing up I’ve always been around that.”
 

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As a 20 year old the prospect of being married with two kids strikes fear into my soul. But then again I'm not mature.
 

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He has all the physical tools, he was productive in college at a big time program, he has scheme versatility, no real injury history, no character flags, and fills a position of big time need.  Whats not to like?
 
He's probably not going to be as funny as Wilfork.
 

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Hard to not like the pick.  Excellent player.  Probably more of a mid-first round guy that fell to them at 32.  Fills an immediate and long-term need.  Versatile.  Big.  Athletic.  Not sure what more you'd want in a first-round pick especially if you're picking at 32.
 

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I guess that's a word for it
 
I'm not judging him at all. I just think it's funny because I was taught that maturity meant avoiding that situation until later in life.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRYc8iET4ZI&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

Video of him being selected
Probably see this a bunch but I love how Brown's entire family and group of friends are cheering wildly and jumping up and down while he just sits there soaking it all in. Pretty nice.
 

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A couple of thoughts.

This reminds me so much of the Wilfork pick. Big young DT that is supposed to go in the teens, and manages to fall into our lap. Its a great need pick to replace Vince's snaps, and he was also the best player available. This work out perfectly for the pats.

I still can't believe how dumb the colts were. DT is a giant glaring weakness, and your team can't stop the run at all. The team you are trying to catch up to destroys you on the ground. In fact, the patriots are so sure you are taking Brown that they get a trade ready to move down in the draft. So naturally the colts take a WR.
 

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We'll see.
 
I thought this was funnier 
"You're about to get the best player you ever drafted,” Brown said. “Just be ready for when I touch the field."
 
 
Unless he becomes the GOAT QB that is an unlikely goal.  
 

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Former Bears GM Greg Gabriel does draft prospect write-ups for the nflpost.com. Here is his report on Malcolm Brown (and Jordan Phillips):
 
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/nfp-prospect-focus-jordan-phillips-and-malcom-brown/
 
Malcom Brown – DT – Texas
 
Brown is a third-year junior entering the draft. He originally enrolled at Texas in 2012 and played in every game as a backup. He became a starter in 2013 and has started every game over the last two seasons at defensive tackle.
 
He has been a productive player each year with a total of 140 tackles and 8.5 sacks the last two years. While he doesn’t have great height (6’2), he is thick, strong and explosive. He is quick off the ball and reacts quickly to make plays. He almost never gives ground to blockers and has the hand use to shed quickly. He flashes dominating ability, he just has to play with more down after down consistency.
 
He is a strong inside pass rusher, gets consistent pressure, and knows how to use counter moves. He has a good motor, plays hard, and is a good pursuit player. Even better, as a 21-year old rookie, he hasn’t begun to see his ceiling.
 
On the downside, he can get tall at times and will also guess instead of react on some plays. When this happens, he can get caught out of position.

Overall, Brown is a versatile player who can play in any defensive scheme. He will come in and start right away as a rookie and has the natural traits to develop into a Pro Bowl type player.
 

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Really no one has said Malcom in Middle yet in this thread?
 
Don't worry I'll fill the funny gap now that Wilforks gone :fonz:
 

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Andrew said:
He can't stop himself from grinning in that video. He's clearly trying, but he can't do it. Awesome.
 
 
Van Everyman said:
Probably see this a bunch but I love how Brown's entire family and group of friends are cheering wildly and jumping up and down while he just sits there soaking it all in. Pretty nice.
I really enjoyed that clip.  Like Andrew said, he can't stop grinning.  Know nothing about him, other than what's been written above, but I already like this kid.
 

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There's a random Packers balloon in the background of that video.  Wonder if he thought that's where he'd be going.
 

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Fell asleep around the 16th pick last night, so waking up to see this was great.
 
I watch way too much Texas football, Brown is a great pickup at that spot. He is a football guy, loves the game and was always at UT's facilities watching tape or whatever. He's a beast of a human and has a nonstop motor it always seemed like. 
 
Smart, young, talented, hard worker = can't go wrong usually. 
 

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I'm not judging him at all. I just think it's funny because I was taught that maturity meant avoiding that situation until later in life.
 
 
Sounds like you are judging him. The dude is married and taking care of his responsibilities. Not a lot of 19/20 year olds would marry someone that already has a child by someone else.
 
 
 
We know BB loves all football guys and Brown does have a quote about how he's not all football. We'll see. Lot's of positives. And this is something that makes football more important:
 
I’m not just playing for myself anymore — I’m playing to support my family. I can’t just think about myself when I make decisions. I have to think about my daughters and my wife being supportive, so I have to give it my all.”
 
 

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lostjumper said:
A couple of thoughts.

This reminds me so much of the Wilfork pick. Big young DT that is supposed to go in the teens, and manages to fall into our lap. Its a great need pick to replace Vince's snaps, and he was also the best player available. This work out perfectly for the pats.

I still can't believe how dumb the colts were. DT is a giant glaring weakness, and your team can't stop the run at all. The team you are trying to catch up to destroys you on the ground. In fact, the patriots are so sure you are taking Brown that they get a trade ready to move down in the draft. So naturally the colts take a WR.
 
Works for me!  It must be frustrating to be a Colts' fan.
 

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riboflav said:
 
I'm not judging him at all. I just think it's funny because I was taught that maturity meant avoiding that situation until later in life.
 
 
Turrable said:
I guess that's a word for it
You guys didn't notice that the 4 year old was his STEP-daughter right?  Not his kid.  His is 8 months.  I'd say that's pretty mature.  A lot of guys would not want to take on another person's child, especially at that age.
 

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There's a random Packers balloon in the background of that video.  Wonder if he thought that's where he'd be going.
And also a Cowboys balloon, a few NFL balloons, and some other balloons that I can't make out.  I doubt Green Bay or Dallas was explicitly where he thought he'd be going, some family member probably just picked up a few different teams' balloons for their draft party.
 
Love the pick.  Think his clips are impressive, and he has a ton of potential. 
 

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DE Sheard - 25 years old
DT Brown - 20 years old
DT Easley - 23 years old
DE Chandler Jones - 25 years old
DT Siliga - 25 years old
 
Branch and Nink are 30 and 31, but they are the "old men" of the group.  Getting Mayo back is like adding a pro bowl level linebacker in free agency.  The front seven is shaping up to be really, really good for a long time.
 
Now, just need to beef up the secondary and OL somehow.
 

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You guys didn't notice that the 4 year old was his STEP-daughter right?  Not his kid.  His is 8 months.  I'd say that's pretty mature.  A lot of guys would not want to take on another person's child, especially at that age.
 
Agreed.  Plus, a lot of guys at that age do not take responsibility for their biological children either, never mind step-children, particularly at 20 years old.  I wasn't ready to be a father at 20, and I don't think most 20 year olds are really ready for that.  But it happens and what people do after that says more about their maturity level then the decisions (or mistakes, as the case may be) that got them there.
 

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So my team is the Super Bowl Champion and the only team with 2 Malcoms..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWlTyhGatIg
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rPIg7ZNQ8
 
I am looking forward to Collinsworth lamenting in perpetuity after a Patriots win.
 
 
 
 
 

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Sounds like you are judging him. The dude is married and taking care of his responsibilities. Not a lot of 19/20 year olds would marry someone that already has a child by someone else.
 
 
 
We know BB loves all football guys and Brown does have a quote about how he's not all football. We'll see. Lot's of positives. And this is something that makes football more important:
 
 
I was mocking the socio-cultural use and definition of the word "maturity" including the way it was taught to me. I thought my disclaimer was sufficient but I was wrong.
 

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Agreed.  Plus, a lot of guys at that age do not take responsibility for their biological children either, never mind step-children, particularly at 20 years old.  I wasn't ready to be a father at 20, and I don't think most 20 year olds are really ready for that.  But it happens and what people do after that says more about their maturity level then the decisions (or mistakes, as the case may be) that got them there.
 
Ya, the "mature" label doesn't come from simply having children, it's from being able to be responsible for two kids while also a part of a top notch college football program and succeed.  The time management and prioritization that requires must be unreal.
 

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Hoping for a Geno Atkins Redux.  Is that a fair comp?  How likely?
 
Great pick.  Looking forward to Easley and Bad News Brown in the middle for a long time.
 

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@NEPD_Loyko: According to @tomecurran the #Patriots were ready to trade down with Texans because they thought Indy was taking Malcom Brown.
 

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The more I read about Brown the more I like him. I loved Wilfork, but he was often invisible in passing situations, especially later in his career.  Brown looks to be much more of a three down guy.
 
And that Colts rumor -if true- is just awesome, right up there in draft day strategy with the Pats baiting the Jets into picking Gholston.
 

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And also a Cowboys balloon, a few NFL balloons, and some other balloons that I can't make out.  I doubt Green Bay or Dallas was explicitly where he thought he'd be going, some family member probably just picked up a few different teams' balloons for their draft party.
 
 
 
 
Yeah, our local grocery store has NFL balloons once in a while--they're generally just a few popular teams.
 
 

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@NEPD_Loyko: According to @tomecurran the #Patriots were ready to trade down with Texans because they thought Indy was taking Malcom Brown.
 
 
Patriots: Smarter than you about their roster and YOUR roster.
 
 

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Patriots: Smarter than you about their roster and YOUR roster.
 
What Bum Philips once said about Shula is more applicable to BB.

"He can take his'n and beat your'n, then take your'n and beat his'n"

RIP Bum. We miss you.
 

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I was looking to see about personnel groupings the Pats had used on D and how that might change with Brown. It looked like last year there was a lot of Wilfork and Chris Jones inside together with Nink and Chandler Jones (Ayers when he was out) outside for more of a traditional 4-3. That look seems like it'll be pretty similar with Brown, but maybe the alternate looks where Wilfork was more of a nose will be a bit more rare? It also seems like given size and his run stopping role he'll need to be integrated quicker than Easley or Jones were their rookie years, or they'll be pretty vulnerable until he gets up to speed. 
 

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I was looking to see about personnel groupings the Pats had used on D and how that might change with Brown. It looked like last year there was a lot of Wilfork and Chris Jones inside together with Nink and Chandler Jones (Ayers when he was out) outside for more of a traditional 4-3. That look seems like it'll be pretty similar with Brown, but maybe the alternate looks where Wilfork was more of a nose will be a bit more rare? It also seems like given size and his run stopping role he'll need to be integrated quicker than Easley or Jones were their rookie years, or they'll be pretty vulnerable until he gets up to speed. 
 
Brown just seems very versatile.  I'm not sure he has the lower body to be a true two gapping NT but I think you could play him inside next to a penetrator like Easley/Chris Jones on passing downs or against teams you don't mind running at you (ie, Denver, Indy), inside next to a clogger like Siliga/Branch on running downs, or as a DE in a 3-4 or 5-2.
 

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Why did he drop to 32?  Colts stupidity and other teams had needs elsewhere?
 
IMO the new flavor of the month "we need a stud WR"  and that 6 WRs got picked in the 1st round helped
 
that and Colt stupidity.
 


 
 

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Ed Hillel said:
Hat's off to them, honestly. Much closer to what you'd find here than in a Jets' forum if the picks were reversed.

There is the funny:

"I'm borderline suicidal at this point haha

The second he started to say Malcolm Brown I turned off the TV and walked out of the room."


There is the perceptive:

"Kudos to New England for having good sense. So much for them losing Wilfork. lol

I have lost a lot of faith in Grigs today. One of the stupidest picks by the Colts that I've seen in awhile. Dorsey will be a nice player at a luxury position but there were good players on the board that really would have helped us on the defensive line and at safety. Two big needs.

I miss Polian...at least he knew how to draft for scheme and actually added talents like Freeney, Mathis and Sanders to our defense."
 

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Probably see this a bunch but I love how Brown's entire family and group of friends are cheering wildly and jumping up and down while he just sits there soaking it all in. Pretty nice.
 
I love everything about the video-down to him wearing shorts and a polo shirt to dress up for the biggest day of his life.  Looks like an absolute home run of a pick. 
 
EDIT: It also looks like the Pats just assumed the Colts were going to take him. You can just imagine the Pats' war room.  "Might as well drop to 51 at this point--fucking colts getting a top 12 pick at defensive tackle, that really fills a hole for them, and ... what?
 

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I love everything about the video-down to him wearing shorts and a polo shirt to dress up for the biggest day of his life.  Looks like an absolute home run of a pick. 
 
EDIT: It also looks like the Pats just assumed the Colts were going to take him. You can just imagine the Pats' war room.  "Might as well drop to 51 at this point--fucking colts getting a top 12 pick at defensive tackle, that really fills a hole for them, and ... what?
 
I actually wonder whether the Pats tried to trade up and jump the Colts but failed.  Jones and Tomlinson filled big needs for Dallas and Detroit respectively so I could see either of those teams fielding offers and then turning us down.