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Luis Valbuena, Jose Castillo killed in car crash

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by DeadlySplitter, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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  2. SydneySox

    SydneySox A dash of cool to add the heat SoSH Member

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  3. DeadlySplitter

    DeadlySplitter Member SoSH Member

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    update. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/25474553/luis-valbuena-jose-castillo-killed-car-crash-venezuela

     
  4. canderson

    canderson Fomenting voting confusion and angst since 2016 Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    This is horrible. Valbuena while in Houston was a great advocate for the city little league system.
     
  5. mBiferi

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    It wasn't a car accident. Things like that happen every day in Venezuela. People put rocks in the middle of the road so that people have to pull over and then kidnap them/mug them. They were murdered.

    This is awful, awful news. Jose Castillo was a star in the Venezuelan Winter League... Carlos Rivero (ex Red sox) was also in the car, with his driver. They both made it out alive.
     
  6. ookami7m

    ookami7m Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    This reporter from VZ seems to agree with you:

     
  7. mBiferi

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    Yep, this happens all the time.

    That's the only reason there are big rocks blocking the road. It happened a few years ago to a famous actress as well.
     
  8. DeadlySplitter

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    the rock in the road didn't make much sense to me as happenstance either.

    this world is a nasty place. :(
     
  9. TheYaz67

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    Sheesh - this seems like an unfortunate annual occurrence every winter in this part of the world - MLB players (or prospects) from the Caribbean killed in driving related accidents while back home in the off season and/or playing winter ball....
     
  10. TheYaz67

    TheYaz67 Member SoSH Member

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    Also continues the long, bizarre and sad history of tragedies and deaths befalling current/former players of the Angles....
     
  11. Ale Xander

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    This f'in sucks. Valbuena was such a class act.

    It may be time for MLB to invest in winter ball in the states, maybe play in the spring training ballparks in AZ or FL November to January or something. To give players a choice to stay (if they want to).
    Or maybe a Socal or Texas league or something.
     
  12. SirPsychoSquints

    SirPsychoSquints Member SoSH Member

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    I don't know, they don't invest in meals or a living wage for their minor leaguers. For what reason would they want to do what you're suggesting?
     
  13. Plympton91

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    I wonder to what extent the AFL was a way to keep top prospects out of the socialist paradise of Venezuela and the other disfunctional regimes down there. That’s a solid investment regardless of the revenues the league generates. Of course, Dernell Stenson was murdered while playing in the AFL, wasn’t he?

    Would they replicate the AFL for non prospects? Does the AFL make a profit? If not, hard to believe the non prospect version would.
     
  14. charlieoscar

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    They had a winter leagues in Hawaii, 1993-97 (MLB and independent league, Japanese and Korean League players), 2006-08 and there was a Maryland Fall League in 1998. MLB payed their own players but but did not cover front office staff, travel and equipment and they only averaged about 900 per game in attendance. Likewise, the Hawaiian League was not well subsidized. Even the Arizona Fall League draws very poorly.
     
  15. Papelbon's Poutine

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    He was but it was thought (although unable to proven) to be a plot by his ex girlfriend. There wasn’t any extortion or ransoms like we see in Venezuela or the Dominican.

    And no, the AFL doesn’t make money but the league kicks in to help. It’s considered a finishing school not just for prospects but for managers and umps.

    I think even leaving out financials, trying to subvert the winter league system would fail. These guys want to go home and there’s national pride and passion in those leagues, as opposed to sitting in an empty stadium in Peoria. There’s camaraderie and legacy. It’s awful when stuff like this happens but they know it’s there, they grew up in it. I don’t think you’d ever convince them not to go home to see family, be back where they came from etc.
     

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