Kyle Martino didn’t think it was a bad call./sAmazing what Milner brings to the side. It wasn’t just the clearance off the line - it was continuing to rise the ref well after the bad no call on the opening goal
I guess the call was worse than I thought.Kyle Martino didn’t think it was a bad call./s
You’re probably right. I was really just making a crappy joke. I muted him a few seconds into his schpiel.Martino said something like - I don’t think that is the kind of call VAR is supposed to overturn. He thinks judgement calls should be left to the on field referees. I don’t think he ever said it wasn’t a foul, but I could be forgetting..
If Liverpool don’t offer him a coaching job after he retires then they’ll be missing out.Amazing what Milner brings to the side. It wasn’t just the clearance off the line - it was continuing to rise the ref well after the bad no call on the opening goal, it was throwing his body into tackles and clearances, it was sprinting his ass off to chase 50/50 balls... he brings an intensity and edge like Henderson does. I’m not sure it inspires his teammates as much as it does wear down opponents and annoys the hell out of them. It works!
When I posted this two weeks days ago I was trying to be funny, but I actually think there's a real chance now the season will not be completed. Liverpool may be in a race to clinch the title before they stop playing games.
I don't know if I'd laugh or cry my way into it, but either way I would go insane if the FA did not award a PL winner due to COVID.So now the season basically comes down to getting 2 wins before the coronavirus shuts down the league.
For sure, Liverpool needs to be crowned PL champs regardless. And Leeds needs to be automatically promoted.I don't know if I'd laugh or cry my way into it, but either way I would go insane if the FA did not award a PL winner due to COVID.
Thank you summarizing perfectly. Man City not getting to lose to Arsenal yesterday might have cost us the chance to see them win on the field.So now the season basically comes down to getting 2 wins before the coronavirus shuts down the league.
Objection: facts clearly not in evidence.Man City not getting to lose to Arsenal yesterday
in these bleak times, we can all use a good laugh.
And apparently, this will be the new home kit. I'm not sure if the fear of something truly awful makes me think this is "not bad" or I find the green completely superfluous.A potential dispute has been avoided after Nike informed Liverpool “it’s only right” that they complete the 2019-20 season wearing their current New Balance kit.
Nike’s lucrative five-year contract with the Premier League champions-elect officially begins on June 1, 2020. As a result the American company could have pushed for Jurgen Klopp’s side to wear the new kit for all fixtures held after that date.
That raised the prospect of captain Jordan Henderson lifting the trophy wearing Nike, which would have been a devastating blow to New Balance given the value which would be attached to those images.
However, following discussions between Billy Hogan — Liverpool’s managing director and chief commercial officer — and both suppliers, it has been agreed that the change of kits won’t happen mid-season, regardless of whether the remaining fixtures are held after the end of May due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.
One reason I’ve always felt Liverpool and the Sox made sense as partners is the colors - not just the primary red and white, but they share a history with that Fenway-esque chalky green. The Sox also have navy of course, and Pool uses a lot of complimentary yellow/gold. But the visual connection is uncommonly strong.When they finish the season, they will finish in New Balance kits.
Why Nike will let Liverpool lift the title in New Balance kit
And apparently, this will be the new home kit. I'm not sure if the fear of something truly awful makes me think this is "not bad" or I find the green completely superfluous.
Very true, and credit to them for reversing the decision. I'm as critical of the club and its fans as anyone, but I think it was a large percentage of fans braking the usual solidarity to pressure the club that made the difference,And they have reversed course.
Liverpool Reverse Course on Furlough
Doesn't take away the hit of the initial decision but at least later is better than never.
Your whole post was well said, but I thought this was the key. The biggest issue I have here is there are still a handful clubs whose fans buy the mystique that they are Mes Que un Club, and in the Premiership era, I'm not sure that's the case.The pandemic is taking the mask off the basic business-pr dynamic of all professional sports - they are a business that cultivates a public image of being a community institution.
Not before time .. at least these guys pay attention to public opinion - particularly Spirit of Shankly and the like. This sort of thing is not something American sports moguls have to deal with and , to their credit, FSG seems to get it.And they have reversed course.
Liverpool Reverse Course on Furlough
Doesn't take away the hit of the initial decision but at least later is better than never.
the core issue is too dire to play club one upmanship but community engagement is one area where Everton surpasses LFC and most every club anywhere:Very true, and credit to them for reversing the decision. I'm as critical of the club and its fans as anyone, but I think it was a large percentage of fans braking the usual solidarity to pressure the club that made the difference,
Your whole post was well said, but I thought this was the key. The biggest issue I have here is there are still a handful clubs whose fans buy the mystique that they are Mes Que un Club, and in the Premiership era, I'm not sure that's the case.
But again, credit to the many fans that stood up for what is right, not what is Red. And credit to FSG for having the soul enough to care about the bad PR.
I'm not sure being shamed into a U-Turn that is probably financially based constitutes "getting it."Not before time .. at least these guys pay attention to public opinion - particularly Spirit of Shankly and the like. This sort of thing is not something American sports moguls have to deal with and , to their credit, FSG seems to get it.
In Peter Moore’s apology he kind of indicated the original furlough decision came straight from FSG ( Henry and Werner) - which is not surprising - they being very successful business people. You may be right that FSG still sees this through a financial lens and that the long term hit in public image wasn’t worth the short term gain. Or they were surprised by community backlash.I'm not sure being shamed into a U-Turn that is probably financially based constitutes "getting it."
Thanks for the clarification. Pretty sure we agree on this one.In Peter Moore’s apology he kind of indicated the original furlough decision came straight from FSG ( Henry and Werner) - which is not surprising - they being very successful business people. You may be right that FSG still sees this through a financial lens and that the long term hit in public image wasn’t worth the short term gain. Or they were surprised by community backlash.
by “get it” I think I was referring to the impact of supporters - Not sure they are capable of understanding, let alone embracing the club’s socialist roots.
It's not just the club's roots - it's the culture of club football. It's the distinction between a franchise and a club. These really once were, and to a certain extent still are, "clubs," ie voluntary associations of like minded people. The employees would have been "the club" in 1890, and the fans would view them as such today.In Peter Moore’s apology he kind of indicated the original furlough decision came straight from FSG ( Henry and Werner) - which is not surprising - they being very successful business people. You may be right that FSG still sees this through a financial lens and that the long term hit in public image wasn’t worth the short term gain. Or they were surprised by community backlash.
by “get it” I think I was referring to the impact of supporters - Not sure they are capable of understanding, let alone embracing the club’s socialist roots.
I'll echo the "Great post" sentiment.The pandemic is taking the mask off the basic business-pr dynamic of all professional sports - they are a business that cultivates a public image of being a community institution.
This is one of the things that I love about international soccer. I love the things that my club in Berlin stands for and does. It's really a cool thing. We don't see it hardly at all in the US. The only kind of thing that could possibly spring to mind is the difference between White Sox and Cubs fans, and that's probably pushing it. Maybe there is another example or two, but it's a stretch for sure.I'll echo the "Great post" sentiment.
Over the past couple of years, I've really mentally dug into how club culture has changed into resembling the American franchise model. I've always felt that the Bruins are the best example of how passionate a fanbase can be for an entity that is owned by a group they despise; but Bruins fans don't really have a choice for an alternative. It's either root for the local team or choose another franchise somewhere else in North America.
In football, clubs were typically founded by members of the community. They grew organically and the values they promoted a segment of the local population. If a club was not right for you, you could support another club that is either in the same city or near by (Or maybe you're really crazy and choose a club based on enjoyment from watching the team play and not geography). That dynamic is still found in football, but is pretty much dead at the highest levels of the game. Massive clubs are revenue cranking de-facto franchises at best and elaborate tax/money laundering schemes at worst.
But it is still nice to know that if a fan of the game doesn't want to support that, they can still choose to support a smaller club. Yes, their existence is irrelevant in the big scheme of things; but you can find a team that suits you. I'd rather options, in the various clubs that football can offer to area, over hoping that the ownership group I hate eventually moves on and sells to a Robert Kraft or Steve Ballmer.
Sorry for the non-LFC specific post. I just wish FSG hadn't fully revealed their cynical underbelly.
Right now the Guardian is doing a minute-by-minute live commentary on the Liverpool-Palace 1990 FA Cup semifinal. That’s a fix for both of us.This is one of the things that I love about international soccer. I love the things that my club in Berlin stands for and does. It's really a cool thing. We don't see it hardly at all in the US. The only kind of thing that could possibly spring to mind is the difference between White Sox and Cubs fans, and that's probably pushing it. Maybe there is another example or two, but it's a stretch for sure.
I wasn't as aware of this when I glommed onto my first club team in England, but could see it in action when I first went to Selhurst Park following their last promotion. I went there expecting to see two corporate teams (they were playing Arsenal), and was delighted to see what Palace was even after reaching the top flight.
I've been watching "Sunderland Until I Die" on Netflix (which is nice for a footy fix if you need one) and have really enjoyed seeing the relationship between that club and the community. I'm still annoyed about the time they crushed Palace 4-0 on a Monday night though.
Ooh...I didn't follow the sport at all then, save for a World Cup match or two, but I do know how that one is gonna turn out (edit somehow put the wrong emoji on that one! Super Alan Pardew!)Right now the Guardian is doing a minute-by-minute live commentary on the Liverpool-Palace 1990 FA Cup semifinal. That’s a fix for both of us.