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The former was posted in the CONCACAFery thread, and while it's a red I'm not sure if it's so much more severe than most red card tackles that it deserves an extraordinary suspension. He's going for and maybe even gets the ball (studs up). It just looks crazy because of the flying ninja kick aspect to it.
 

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The former was posted in the CONCACAFery thread, and while it's a red I'm not sure if it's so much more severe than most red card tackles that it deserves an extraordinary suspension. He's going for and maybe even gets the ball (studs up). It just looks crazy because of the flying ninja kick aspect to it.
You answered your own comment lol

The ref was reaching for his red card(s) before the tackle even came in.
 

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Romano says Nagelsmann is putting the final touches on agreement to manage Germany.
 

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sm, someone somewhere has got to put one of these dudes out there as a 9. The keeper can’t even claim from a guy that big. Imagine the hold up play, the second balls, if the guy is even a little bit athletic
 

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There are very tall people all over the world and soccer is a global game, and we know plenty of NBA big men from other countries grew up playing soccer. There is a reason we see very few CFs that are taller than 6'5" or so, the demands of the game at a high level require too much mobility and other aspects that prevent NBA-sized players from playing soccer.
 

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There are very tall people all over the world and soccer is a global game, and we know plenty of NBA big men from other countries grew up playing soccer. There is a reason we see very few CFs that are taller than 6'5" or so, the demands of the game at a high level require too much mobility and other aspects that prevent NBA-sized players from playing soccer.
TBF, that height makes doing A LOT of things very difficult. Like fitting into an airplane seat, or a door frame.

My buddy used to date collegiate level bball/volleyball player, and we were altogether one night for our other friend's wedding. Naturally, drinks were consumed and the tall BF was walking down the hall of the hotel and in his stupor failed to duck and hit his head on an EXIT SIGN. That was the first time I felt really bad for tall people.
 

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Feyenoord beating Ajax 3-0 at home was too much for some of their fans, the game was suspended due to fans throwing flares on the field.
 
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The entitlement some fans show is nauseating. Anything but winning a title or else you are rioting in the streets seems like a very bad way to go about fandom.
 

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It's not the Ajax fans that are the problem. It's their hooligans. I heard reports that the rest of the stadium was cursing them for throwing flares on the pitch.

It seems to me that the Netherlands haven't managed to deal with organized hooligans so they get to act up.
 

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It's not the Ajax fans that are the problem. It's their hooligans. I heard reports that the rest of the stadium was cursing them for throwing flares on the pitch.

It seems to me that the Netherlands haven't managed to deal with organized hooligans so they get to act up.
This incident is giving Dutch fans massive flashbacks. In 1989, Feynoord hooligans exploded several crude homemade bombs outside Ajax’s stadium, which caused dozens of causalities. The crack down after this pushed a lot of the hooligans activity away from the stadiums and into remote, prearranged locations.

in 1997, Feynoord & Ajax hooligans met up at a spot off the highway in a town called Beverwijk. One of the combatants died, which drew renewed police and political attention to hooliganism.

The off-site rumbles continued, but for most Dutch folks it was an out of sight, out of mind problem. But things changed during the pandemic lock down. During the empty stadium phase of return, hooligan groups broke in during matches causing cancellations. Last year, Davvy Klassen got hit in the head with an object in the middle of a match; he ended up with stitches and a concussion. And then there was the insane scene of AZ hooligans trying to overrun Hammers fans last spring.

centrist and leftist parties in the NL parliament want to take bold action and have been making public pronouncements about hooliganism since the AZ/Hammers fiasco. But the right wing parties see common cause with the hooligans and have been slowing debate as they try to leverage greater restrictions on immigration and expressions of Islamic faith in public. So while the large majority of hooligans are disaffected white youth, the right are pushing for all actions to apply equally or more so to African and Muslim communities. So action has been very slow. This incident adds new urgency, though.

Edit: for the V&N nerds in the room - the Dutch lower house, which is where all the debate & law making happen, is a close 77-73 split between a centrist coalition and the range of parties on the left & right. 5 of those 77 seats are held by the Christian Union, an economically progressive & socially conservative party. They have been a stumbling block on a lot of the PM’s agenda.

And then there is the Senate, which in the Dutch system only has veto power over House legislation, no law making power itself. The coalition that controls the House actually holds a minority in the Senate, adding further challenges.

TL;DR the Dutch government is just as divided and dysfunctional as the US right now. Even an issue that is outrageous to the large majority of the population is being stymied by partisan jockeying.
 
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I think I'm missing something--is the first video a high pitched voice mocking him for asking for a penalty and then missing it? If it is, I wouldn't call it disgusting, but rather incredibly dumb. Why mock any player on your own squad, let alone one of the best strikers in the world? Similar thoughts about the second one, although the second one seems more likely to have racist underpinnings.

All that said, I expect that there is something pretty obvious and bad here considering the reactions.
 

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The videos are so stupid I can't quite figure out what is going on in them. Can someone translate TikTok nonsense here?
 

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It just seems like shitposting. Not sure why or what context is involved. Is he a Balotelli type lightning rod or something?
 

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So Serie A tiktok is just weird (or I am almost 40 and everything on tiktok is weird, not quite sure at the moment).

For context, here's a totally non-offensive Juve thing https://www.tiktok.com/@juventus/video/7283238136338009377?_r=1&_t=8g1blx7ZC2x

So they're going for that vibe approximately, except instead of showing a dancing cat with sunglasses they are shitting on their own player and being racist, in the second one.
 

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The FIFA Council forwards a WC 2030 bid to the full membership for a vote next year. And I don't think anyone saw this one coming.

Spain, Portugal, & Morocco will host the tournament, but the opening 3 matches will be played in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay. All 6 host nations get automatic spots.

Left out in the cold is the Saudi, Egypt, Greece team up, which certainly adds new wrinkles to KSA's huge investments in the sport over recent years.

The matches in South America are a nod to the 100th anniversary of the first WC, played in Uruguay.

This all feels like a bizarre coalition pulled together to secure enough votes to win. I don't think any nation is going to be happy playing their opening match in Asunción and the next one in Barcelona.
 

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Anything is better than the Saudi World Cup. It breaks with tradition, but the WC is going to be so different by 2030 it doesn't really matter. I'm happy the games will be in good viewing times for the east coast, at least.
 

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Someone mentioned Euro24 tickets somewhere in this forum the other day. I can't find it, so just putting this here (edit, nope it was my Lichtenberg 47 group, never mind). You can register for tickets as of yesterday. I put in for the the following games in Berlin in anyone's planning on coming:

Match 19
Match 38
Match 47
Match 51
 

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Anything is better than the Saudi World Cup. It breaks with tradition, but the WC is going to be so different by 2030 it doesn't really matter. I'm happy the games will be in good viewing times for the east coast, at least.
You probably know this but SA is officially bidding for the 2034 WC.

With the spread out hosting plan that means 6 teams now automatically qualify so fewer at large spots. Also looking fwd to all the complaining when one team has lots of extra travel across multiple continents.
 

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The FIFA Council forwards a WC 2030 bid to the full membership for a vote next year. And I don't think anyone saw this one coming.

Spain, Portugal, & Morocco will host the tournament, but the opening 3 matches will be played in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay. All 6 host nations get automatic spots.

Left out in the cold is the Saudi, Egypt, Greece team up, which certainly adds new wrinkles to KSA's huge investments in the sport over recent years.

The matches in South America are a nod to the 100th anniversary of the first WC, played in Uruguay.

This all feels like a bizarre coalition pulled together to secure enough votes to win. I don't think any nation is going to be happy playing their opening match in Asunción and the next one in Barcelona.
Saudi is basically a lock for 2034. They confirmed that it will go to either the Asian or Oceania associations and the president of the Asian Football Association has already come out and said that the Saudi bid will be only one coming out of Asia.
 

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An Arsenal data analyst named Karun Singh gave a presentation today at the Stats Bomb conference that offered a pretty crazy look at some of the stuff the club's data group is doing - basically building a massive unified model that takes vast data on individual player locations and events from every match across all leagues for which video feed is available and then uses neural networks (a la ChatGPT) to answer all kinds of questions about threat level, tactics and player movements, scenario analysis, etc. Some of the functionality seems just for analysis and recruitment but some of it is actually usable in real-time during matches. What these guys are doing is basically a completely different universe of data analysis then crap we have available to us on the internet as fans. My assumption is that every bigger club is doing some version of this and the real question is the quality of implementation, otherwise Arsenal probably wouldn't be allowing this guy to make a public presentation about it.

You can find it here but you need to rewind pretty close to the beginning, its one of the first presentations.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2maQ6qoSEe0
 

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Who is the most in-form striker in the world? Haaland? Kane? Lewandowski? The answer of course, is Serhou Guirassy.

Guirassy has 13 goals this season for Stuttgart, who currently sit second in the Bundesliga. The 27 year old, who plays for the Guinea national team, has already surpassed his career high for goals in a club season of 11, which he did last year for Stuttgart. He previously had only scored double-digits one other time, in 2021 for Reims, in a career that has been spent hopping between the first and second divisions in France and Germany.

He started the season with a brace against Bochum, then followed that up a goal against Leipzig and then another brace against Freiburg. He then scored a hat trick against Mainz, and his third brace of the season against Darmstadt. He was finally kept off the score sheet against Koln, but took out his frustrations with a hat trick over the weekend against Wolfsburg. This gives him 13 goals in 7 league games (he's added one goal in the DFB-Pokal as well) so far this season. Not only has he scored in six out of seven games this season, he has scored MULTIPLE goals in five out of the seven games.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYjCxssIa4
 

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That graphic thinks it's saying "Burnley have bought bad players" but I think it's actually saying "Burnley's first 8 games have included 4 traditional top 6 teams, plus Villa and Newcastle".

Their opening schedule has been brutal, even taking into consideration Chelsea and Man U's problems.
 

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Firstly, that metric is suspect in general. Fotmob does OK, SofaScore is similarly trash. But what caught my eye about the Burnley things is the 19yo Italian-American winger Luca Koleosho, who half the premier league would be happy to have given what he's shown the first few months, and which has been both bright at beating people down the line as well as playable in defense. The worst "signing"? He's not even a signing!