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ESPN Is Pathetic

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by Lose Remerswaal, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    Yeah Reiss still updates regularly including today
     
  2. The Mort Report

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    I know, but they are no longer putting it on the Boston specific page. I wonder if this is them downsizing the website, hopefully not to the level of Fox making everything just videos

    And Ed the timing was fantastic ha
     
  3. splendid splinter

    splendid splinter Member SoSH Member

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    I have to think there’s just something wrong with the main Boston page. ESPN NY, Chicago, Cleveland are all up to date.
     
  4. ifmanis5

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  6. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    Looks like Paul Lukas UniWatch is going to a subscription-based model.

    I think that I've read 95% of the entries that he's done -- it's usually my first stop in the morning -- but I don't think that I'm going to pay $5 or $10 a month for the content. I don't think that it's worth it, to be honest. He came off a little douchey with his lede insinuating that he's doing this to fight for the rights of other journalists, but the truth is he wants to get paid for something that he spends a lot of time on -- and that's perfectly legit.

    But, I mean, that's Paul Lukas, I guess. Oh well.
     
  7. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I think he's hinted at this for awhile. I stopped reading him in late 2015 and have missed it much less than I thought I would. I started with him way back before the most recent web address , probably went there every day for 4 or 5 years .
     
  8. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    Has he? I guess I ignored it or skimmed over that part.

    If he does go behind a paywall, it'll be fine. I won't have to read about people getting pissed off about incredibly mundane inconsistencies or read about how XXXX team's new uniforms are "the fucking worst thing on the planet and OMG, I can't believe that people are actually going to play in these things!" Which, Lukas doesn't always write about, but his acolytes certainly do.
     
  9. Captaincoop

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    I always kind of enjoyed Uni Watch, but there is no chance I'm paying for it. Let alone paying the same as I pay for a Netflix subscription. His argument for why I should is not exactly compelling, either:

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  10. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    Yeah, it's basically, "Hey, I write a lot and I'm a one-man-band, give me some cash." Which is fine and I don't disagree with it, but you have to give me something a bit more than "The Mobile Biscuits are wearing Star Wars uniforms this weekend." I haven't pulled the trigger on the Athletic or the Boston Sports Journal yet, but I think that they're right around the same price and feature a lot more than one guy writing about jerseys and stuff.
     
  11. Captaincoop

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    I would love to get paid a lot of money to sit on my computer and share links that people send me about cool uniforms, instead of working for a living. Please send me money and I'll start UniformZone.com.
     
  12. pedro1918

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    I used to read it pretty regularly, but I have been less interested in recent years. I really can't stand his non-sports/uniform stuff. I certainly don't need to pay money to read his blog posts about his vacations and how he likes to cook meat. As JMOH pointed out, there are other pay sites I haven't ponied up for yet (Boston Sports Journal) that will come way before Uni-Watch.
     
  13. ifmanis5

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    The bidding war for Peyton is up to $10 million a year: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...eplaces-jon-gruden/1cjjru4vzm1eb1e0fvaeb7tikm

     
  14. wnyghost

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    Gruden was just south of $7m per. $10m sounds like a good deal to get Peyton Manning.

    I believe Strahan makes at least $10m working with Ripa who makes $20m.
     
  15. cheech13

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    I will never in a million years understand bidding wars for announcers because I have never turned on a game based on an announce team. In my mind the best announcers are the ones you never even notice.
     
  16. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Have you turned a game off because of an announcer though?
     
  17. dcmissle

    dcmissle Deflatigator Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Yes. College basketball. Dick Vitale, especially any games involving Duke.
     
  18. cheech13

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    Turned off the sound, yes. Or at least turned it down so that it wasn't actively taking me out of the experience of watching the game.
     
  19. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    That's another effect. Ads are presumably worth less with the sound off than with the sound on, working on the assumption you don't adjust volume so you can see a Car Fax ad. The less people turn the volume down, the better. Now there's no way to quantify it, but I imagine if you make a few assumptions, you can ballpark the impact of having a shitty announcer.
     
  20. ifmanis5

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    Almost every sporting event I watch is on mute unless it's a big game or something important happens, then I'll put the sound up. If the 1-877-Kars-4-Kids commercial comes on I'll just nuke the TV from orbit to be safe.
     
  21. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    This sucks. I loved his articles. But no, not enough to pay for them.
     
  22. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    He just wrote today that he's not doing a pay wall. Which is good. I think that he'd have lost a lot of money on that venture.
     
  23. MuzzyField

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  24. tims4wins

    tims4wins PN23's replacement SoSH Member

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    That lasted long
     
  25. PC Drunken Friar

    PC Drunken Friar Member SoSH Member

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    I hope he get a a good gig. He's a real good dude.
     
  26. MuzzyField

    MuzzyField Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    He should be just fine.

    ESPN still owes him $7.5 million over the next three years.
     
  27. MuzzyField

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  28. ifmanis5

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    Appears Manning is out of the ESPN running as well: https://nypost.com/2018/03/09/peyton-manning-will-say-no-to-espn-replacing-jon-gruden/

    Fox wants Manning for Thursday games:
     
  29. ConigliarosPotential

    ConigliarosPotential Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Why would Manning want to call games on Thursday nights? I wonder if Fox would be willing to jettison or demote Aikman as their #1 analyst, or even if NBC might consider doing likewise with Collinsworth; I don't get why Manning would settle for anything less.
     
  30. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Well, if we start with the point right above your post ... it would be part of an effort to maximize the Thursday games as must-see television on a night that draws a lot of eyes to the screen. FOX can market Manning as a primetime "star" as opposed to marketing him as a lead Sunday analyst which, while a prime gig, is an entirely different animal when it comes to national appeal.

    If Manning's goals are more national in scope -- whether in television, sports or politics -- the primetime gig is a better platform.

    Plus, the Thursday game schedule is set, while the Sunday gig becomes dependent on the success of the teams as the season goes along. It's a more manageable schedule that includes weekends off.

    I could see NBC being a player for the Sunday night game -- the competition for eyeballs isn't as strong as it is on Thursdays.
     
  31. ConigliarosPotential

    ConigliarosPotential Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I think it would take a lot more than Manning's presence to make Thursday Night NFL a must-see proposition...which is why I can't see Manning finding that package attractive (unless e.g. games selected for the TNF slot become more akin to SNF than the current TNF or MNF lineups). Also, wouldn't Manning want to be involved in the postseason as an analyst? Would he settle for second slot behind Aikman and be done at the end of the Divisional Round?

    I guess it depends on what Manning wants out of broadcasting, really. But his doesn't seem like the sort of ego that would settle for second billing.
     
  32. InstaFace

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  33. pedro1918

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    Tell Sean it was only business. I always liked him.
     
  34. soxhop411

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    More info on why

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...gned-because-his-cocaine-dealer-extorted-him/
     
  35. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I mean, drug dealers are unsavory characters. Who knew?

    "having used cocaine for years and always managing to keep it separate from his job" Sure John, that's probably how it happened. Everything was fine while he was using an illegal drug until some asshole tried to take it all away from him. Clearly his culpability is non-existent.
     
  36. CoffeeNerdness

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    Man, you'd think the guy would have laid off the booger sugar while contemplating such a life changing decision.
     
  37. Dehere

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    Story really suggests to me that Iger was already looking for a way to move beyond Skipper. The stuff Skipper is copping to here isn't great but you can send a guy to rehab and keep his seat warm if you really think he's the right guy for the job.
     
  38. Van Everyman

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    Can we talk about the fact that the guy who rose through the ranks that Disney chose to lead its massive multimedia sports empire was a cokehead? I'm sure more of these guys are addicts that we think -- but even still, this feels like something out of The Player.
     
  39. Marciano490

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    If he could, then he’s not an addict and it’s bs to claim addiction when it was really just poor judgment in giving someone blackmail material.
     
  40. johnmd20

    johnmd20 literally like ebola Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    We definitely need a Google rating system for Drug Dealers. So people can shop for the good ones.

    "One star, tried to blackmail me, I'll never use again. Unless I'm really jonsing."
     
  41. Marciano490

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    I think I told the story here about when my dealer sent out a group text to all his clients that he had a car again so he could deliver to the outer boroughs. The funny part was reviewing the numbers in the chain, some were people I knew from college.
     
  42. CoffeeNerdness

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    Considering that Skipper is renowned, but not necessarily recognizable by looks you have to wonder how it came to be that a coke dealer knew he was a important guy. Either the dealer was a media savvy fellow or Skipper got a bit chatty when making his purchase. Must have been some good stuff.
     
  43. Marciano490

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    I mean, he probably lives somewhere nice and the dealer probably googled his phone number.

    It’s shocking how reckless people are with this stuff.
     
  44. Vinho Tinto

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    And if he owed him enough money, he probably ended up in an ESPN suite at the Super Bowl.
     
  45. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    When people ask for referrals I’m shocked how many don’t use a texting app or are fine with their real first names. Maybe it’s just the litigator in me, but I’m terrified of texts.

    Hell, married grey watch dealers I deal with will text me pictures and conversations with hookers or side girls and then try to negotiate prices against me on the (correct) assumption I won’t blackmail them.

    People are stupid.
     
  46. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    What part of this is why we have employment don't you comprehend ?
     
  47. joyofsox

    joyofsox empty, bleak Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    [​IMG]

    The link to the Mexican League story brought up some breaking news from 2,572 days ago.
     
  48. Marciano490

    Marciano490 Urological Expert SoSH Member

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    Are you a lawyer too?
     
  49. Couperin47

    Couperin47 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    lol, you didn't catch it ? CC '69, CLaw '73 and I was in the Columbia Science Honors program for HS students (classes Friday afternoons and Sat) for 3 years, I was on campus from 1962 til 1973.
     
  50. shaggydog2000

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    Does that make you the Columbia equivalent of a Triple Eagle then?
     

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