So let me get this straight- in the NFL it's a no-no to throw a tantrum in your own home, but Tom Brady gets a get-out-of-jail free card to play in a nationally televised game?soxhop411 said:Reports out now that he assaulted a house guest.
He always has been very good at stepping up to avoid the rush.Ed Hillel said:Brady's on WEEI now. He just expertly dodged whether he thinks Goodell is a flaming liar.
NortheasternPJ said:ESPN doing an OTL report now on ESPN about Goodell / Spygate. Probably just more rehashing of Spygate.
Patriots taped up to 40 games from 2000-2007, not 2006-2007 only.
Still is completely legal if you do it from the areas they say are allowed.DrewDawg said:
Wasn't it completely legal until 2006?
gammoseditor said:I'm pretty sure Goodell just called the Wells investigation independent on Mike and Mike.
ifmanis5 said:Talking about Doirto Dink now. Says the league did NOT ask Pats to fire the ballboys.
That's because they weren't. They have been indefinitely suspended at the NFL's request. Goodell knows exactly what he is saying there and the full intent is once again to smear Kraft and the Patriots.norm from cheers said:
He also said the NFL did not ask for the two to be fired.
ifmanis5 said:Roger on with Mike & Mike now. Says he's not going to the Pats game to let the game speak for itself. Talking about Doirto Dink now. Says the league did NOT ask Pats to fire the ballboys.
He's being too clever and its going to bite him in the ass.RIFan said:That's because they weren't. They have been indefinitely suspended at the NFL's request. Goodell knows exactly what he is saying there and the full intent is once again to smear Kraft and the Patriots.
That's another example of what I mean. He thinks he's being clever, when in truth he's being disingenuous to the point of being fraudulent.MarcSullivaFan said:Why the fuck would the Union be responsible for "producing" them. They are non-Union club employees.
Saints Rest said:We need a Jon Stewart style expose of Goodell,
Average Reds said:Never thought I would say this, but the ESPN report about Deflategate being a "makeup call" for Spygate has turned me into an advocate of the notion that Kraft should sue the NFL on anti-trust grounds.
He won't, because he's smarter than me. But I really wish he would so we could expose the NFL.
Naturally, Goodell 100% denied the "make-up" aspect.Average Reds said:Never thought I would say this, but the ESPN report about Deflategate being a "makeup call" for Spygate has turned me into an advocate of the notion that Kraft should sue the NFL on anti-trust grounds.
He won't, because he's smarter than me. But I really wish he would so we could expose the NFL.
Or he could use the full nuclear option, and ask some of the New England senators to open an investigation into the NFL filing false documentation during Senator Magic Bullet's hearings on the Cheatriots. That has to be a felony of some sort.Average Reds said:Never thought I would say this, but the ESPN report about Deflategate being a "makeup call" for Spygate has turned me into an advocate of the notion that Kraft should sue the NFL on anti-trust grounds.
He won't, because he's smarter than me. But I really wish he would so we could expose the NFL.
nighthob said:Or he could use the full nuclear option, and ask some of the New England senators to open an investigation into the NFL filing false documentation during Senator Magic Bullet's hearings on the Cheatriots. That has to be a felony of some sort.
Agreed. I wonder though what he thinks about his fellow owners' complete abandonment of him (if he thought he was well liked). My guess is he realized he didn't have many friends or allies among ownership, what with his "arrogant" coach, and the unparalleled success of his team the last 15 years, but if he did, he must be really scratching his head over this.drleather2001 said:
It's the great, undying, myth held dear around these parts, that Bob Kraft has some final trump card that he can play at his discretion. And, watch out, he just might...next time!
Let it go. He's got nothing. Not the Commish, not the support of other owners, nothing.
If anything,his impotently naive reaction to the initial reports back in January and the half-assed response back in in the spring with that "Deflator" nugget has just rendered him weaker.
drleather2001 said:
It's the great, undying, myth held dear around these parts, that Bob Kraft has some final trump card that he can play at his discretion. And, watch out, he just might...next time!
Let it go. He's got nothing. Not the Commish, not the support of other owners, nothing.
If anything,his impotently naive reaction to the initial reports back in January and the half-assed response back in in the spring with that "Deflator" nugget has just rendered him weaker.
But Goodell indicated any change would come within the initial discipline process, not with the way appeals are handled.
DrewDawg said:Goodell still wants final say on player discipline: http://weei.stats.com/fb/story.asp?i=20150908111251193031508&ref=hea&tm=&src=
Well... unless we need them to rule in our favor. Then they definitely belong. Just not to overturn us or our bungling.
Thus, Goodell ran into a judge who represents a nightmare for commissioners present and future. Says David Stern, who has never run across Berman professionally, “In a court with one of the busiest dockets in the nation, Judge Berman was dazzled by the headlights of professional sports and crossed into the wrong lane and engaged the federal courts in the intricacies of running a sports league. Where they have no business.”
edmunddantes said:Here's David Stern with an interesting take on Berman
Well... unless we need them to rule in our favor. Then they definitely belong. Just not to overturn us or our bungling.
troparra said:
I don't understand that David Stern quote. He's saying federal courts have no business meddling in professional sports leagues. Why not? They are too intricate? Too intricate for what, for federal judges to understand?
We should not be surprised that Brady’s accusers are not being swayed by the judge’s report. In a series of studies, political scientists have shown that strongly-committed partisans, when faced with evidence contradicting their most fervent beliefs, rarely change their minds. Indeed, they often double down on those beliefs
That's basically the current zeitgeist as a whole; not just the Brady case and not just in sports.AB in DC said:political scientists have shown that strongly-committed partisans, when faced with evidence contradicting their most fervent beliefs, rarely change their minds. Indeed, they often double down on those beliefs