Stitch01 said:Starting to think this is going to end with either a new commissioner or a new Patriots owner.
I'd say new commissioner before new owner. Kraft has many supporters within the league of owners. Goodell goes before Kraft.
Stitch01 said:Starting to think this is going to end with either a new commissioner or a new Patriots owner.
Since Goodell works for the owners, yes.jsinger121 said:
I'd say new commissioner before new owner. Kraft has many supporters within the league of owners. Goodell goes before Kraft.
SeoulSoxFan said:Since Goodell works for the owners, yes.
My suspicion is there are a few owners who are pulling the strings behind Goodell and Vincent. Irsay, Woody, to name a couple.
SeoulSoxFan said:Since Goodell works for the owners, yes.
My suspicion is there are a few owners who are pulling the strings behind Goodell and Vincent. Irsay, Woody, to name a couple.
jsinger121 said:
I'd say new commissioner before new owner. Kraft has many supporters within the league of owners. Goodell goes before Kraft.
PedroKsBambino said:
Safe to say Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder will be happy to vote to toss out Goodell.
ivanvamp said:I just want to make sure I understand how the NFL disciinary process world.
Goodell could issue literally whatever penalty he wants - say, five straight first round draft picks - and there's nothig a team can do about it?
Before we say, no commissioner would ecer issue a penalty so far out of whack, I bring you exhibit A - four games for the starting QB who didn't even do anything, a million bucks, and a first and fourth round draft picks for an infraction that the rule book calls for a penalty of $25,000, and for which another team was actually caught on video violating with ZERO penalty whatsoever.
Do I get this straight? Is this really how it works?
This is pretty fucking dumbyecul said:BB is an ahole and obstinate. That nets these punishments. If he were more amicable and contrite then this would not happen. Simple as that. The league will keep trying to beat him into submission.
Marciano490 said:The 4 games probably won't matter come January.
Care to expand?Seels said:This is pretty fucking dumb
H78 said:While the league and its sour-grapes teams focus on tarnishing Brady, look at what leaked out today. Turns out the Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Ravens, and Colts - the fucking Colts! - all accepted payment from the U.S. government to honor soldiers during home games. And you thought the did it out of the goodness in their heart...
What a fucking league. Unreal. Stay classy, NFL.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25181085/nfl-teams-received-54-million-from-defense-department-in-last-4-years
Yes, we have a thread about this already.H78 said:While the league and its sour-grapes teams focus on tarnishing Brady, look at what leaked out today. Turns out the Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Steelers, Ravens, and Colts - the fucking Colts! - all accepted payment from the U.S. government to honor soldiers during home games. And you thought the did it out of the goodness in their heart...
What a fucking league. Unreal. Stay classy, NFL.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25181085/nfl-teams-received-54-million-from-defense-department-in-last-4-years
NortheasternPJ said:
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/89313-dod-army-national-guard-pay-nfl-teams-to-honor-soldiers-during-games/
There's a whole thread about it from 3 days ago.
Edit: LDT actually being reasonable about the Pats. Am I in The Matrix?
86spike said:Both the team and Brady punishments are bonkers. I was expecting a one game suspension and some fines (which still would have been far more than the alleged infraction deserved, but Ginger Hammer gonna Hammer).
This makes me feel like Goodell went so hard specifically so he could take the appeal hearing and then try to appear magnanimous by reducing it down to a game and lesser fines.
And as a Bronco fan, all this makes me feel is Goodell is a menace and it could be my team next.
CaptainLaddie said:Yes, we have a thread about this already.
If he sides with the Pats I don't know what I'll think about anything anymore.Papelbon's Poutine said:Marshall Faulk coming up. This should be good.
Pat Bowlen has advanced Alzheimer's Disease, but maybe his kids will help.jsinger121 said:Tell Pat Bowlen to get on the Robert Kraft train of railroading Roger Goodell out of the league.
Perhaps it's, like, a story that people here are interested in or something.Seels said:Why are you fuckers giving the NFL Network any attention? You're doing exactly what the NFL wants here.
Papelbon's Poutine said:Marshall Faulk coming up. This should be good.
NortheasternPJ said:
Thanks Soxhop.
Ed Hillel said:
If he's with LT, we've officially entered the Twilight Zone.
twibnotes said:Care to expand?
I think yecul is a lot more right than wrong. It's clear that the league is torqued off by the Pats unwillingness to comply with the investigation. BB for a long time has been the face of that uncooperative brand.
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/11/tom-brady-suspension-patriots-deflategate-punishment/But another storyline I found interesting was what, inside the letter that league executive vice president Troy Vincent wrote to the Patriots, was actually being said to the other 31 teams in the league. The crushing harshness contained this message to the rest of the NFL that Goodell wanted to send: We do not play favorites.
Wrote Vincent to the Patriots: “The key consideration in any case like this is that the playing rules exist for a reason, and all clubs are entitled to expect that the playing rules will be followed by participating teams. Violations that diminish the league’s reputation for integrity and fair play cannot be excused simply because the precise impact on the final score cannot be determined.”
A quick poll of three officials of other clubs in the hours after the ruling found a mixed reaction. One top club official thought the penalty was excessive because there was no definitive proof in the Wells report that Brady either authorized the deflation of footballs or knew precisely that they had been deflated. Another said he was heartened to see the league treat the Patriots with an iron fist, though Kraft has been a close confidant of Goodell. A third said he and others in his organization were surprised by the severity of the punishment. “Way over the top,” he said. “Draconian. I thought the league went too far.” There was a no-joy-in-Mudville tone with these officials. Two of them said virtually the same thing—that this was a sad day for football.
Don't worry, he's taking the stance that they basically traded the penalties for a ring. Because obviously that's the only reason the won.Ed Hillel said:
If he's with LT, we've officially entered the Twilight Zone.
uncannymanny said:If he sides with the Pats I don't know what I'll think about anything anymore.
soxhop411 said:Kraft is angry and might fight the punishment