Surprised nobody put the video of Austin Powers peering, that was a solid 90 seconds and he was frozen for 30 years...
Yup. And sadly the media buys this crap. What a joke.Myt1 said:We know when the ball boy took a piss but not whether an actual gauge test was done on the balls pregame or whether they were reinflatwded at halftime?
I got that right? Because if so, this is simply glorious. The league is literally a bunch of monkeys trying to fuck a football.
He's provably been told those balls don't leave your sight. So when he has to take a piss he makes sure they don't leave his sight. Nothing strange about it at all.NWsoxophile said:Why does it look bad? Why is it weird? How would taking them in or not taking them in be indicative of anything? it takes effort to see premeditation in everything.
Ed Hillel said:On a more serious note, a bunch of people use their phones on the pisser. If this kid was using his phone either texting or online, those records should exist.
I wouldn't assume he's a child. He may be a ball man.Comfortably Lomb said:
Sure, they exist, and you think this kid's parents are just going to hand over phone records to the NFL? A lot of parents would tell the NFL to go pound sand.
Which would jive with Belichicks comment of they tell the refs to set them at 12.5.MarcSullivaFan said:T&R reporting they have two sources who say that the balls were just below 12.5 when turned in and the refs [returned them unchanged]
Edit: Not sure whether they're claiming the balls were not gauged.
The way I heard it, their sources absolutely claimed the balls were not gauged pre-game.MarcSullivaFan said:T&R reporting they have two sources who say that the balls were just below 12.5 when turned in and the refs [returned them unchanged]
Edit: Not sure whether they're claiming the balls were not gauged.
But is there a point at which the Patriots say "you have all the evidence you need, we have a solid alibi, you're clearly conducting this investigation in bad faith, now piss off"?MarcSullivaFan said:I wouldn't assume he's a child. He may be a ball man.
speedracer said:But is there a point at which the Patriots say "you have all the evidence you need, we have a solid alibi, you're clearly conducting this investigation in bad faith, now piss off"?
blueguitar322 said:Bill Nye the Seahawks Guy's video is now up on funny or die. More bad science complete with "the ball feels pretty much the same" and no data, spends his time talking about electing politicians who believe in climate change instead. Concludes that the Pats "probably cheated a little bit". Oh and the obligatory "Go Seahawks" at the end.
Such a missed opportunity.
Someone's holding onto that for Thursday or Friday, so 900 assholes can camp out on his lawn Saturday and get some prime video of him giving getting into/out of his car without answering questions that they can run on a loop all Sunday morning.NWsoxophile said:I wonder why said locker room attendant hasn't been identified and besieged by the media yet.
How do you compel depositions under oath without litigation?Steve Dillard said:The Pats push for a full investigation, including depositions under oath. Starts with the refs. Don't know whether league can make refs submit to depo without subpoena power. Wonder if we'll have a ref union showdown over NFL's ability to make employees submit.
Hope he never engages in one of those evolution debates again, since he has now trashed his credibility.Devizier said:
Honestly, Nye is treating the situation with the seriousness that it deserves. The problem isn't really him.
Devizier said:
Honestly, Nye is treating the situation with the seriousness that it deserves. The problem isn't really him.
Devizier said:
Honestly, Nye is treating the situation with the seriousness that it deserves. The problem isn't really him.
CantKeepmedown said:PFT reporting that the fire alarm went off at the team hotel last night. Haters gonna hate. Hopefully, the team only eats food that they are preparing. Or, maybe I'm just paranoid.
It would have to be a function of the collective bargaining agreement/contract. And I bet the refs don't have that obligation. That's why we may have a situation where the Ref PA knows the failure to test is a violation, and so won't allow their guys to testify. That's why the Pats should be aggressive, offer up toilet guy for depo, and let the refs stonewall.Average Reds said:How do you compel depositions under oath without litigation?
Steve Dillard said:It would have to be a function of the collective bargaining agreement/contract. And I bet the refs don't have that obligation. That's why we may have a situation where the Ref PA knows the failure to test is a violation, and so won't allow their guys to testify. That's why the Pats should be aggressive, offer up toilet guy for depo, and let the refs stonewall.
Well, they have video of him entering the bathroom with the balls and then being dragged out, unconscious, by Ray RicePaSox said:So if I am reading this correctly, the NFL can get its hands on the video of a kid walking into a bathroom to take a piss, but can't seem to get a video of Race Rice in an elevator?
GeorgeCostanza said:What a bunch of mind numbing bullshit speculation. He's such a cunt.
ChickenMcNasty really giving it to him in the comment section
Why have you not considered that the reason the patriots are giving the media and nfl the middle finger is because they are the ones who know FOR SURE what happened? And they actually did nothing wrong. And you crap reporters just torpedo'd one of the most incredible super bowl match ups ever because you suck at your jobs so bad you can't find reports and quotes that painted this whole picture last weds.
Way to mail it in on your reporting.
Seriously- or the dangers of formulating a hypotheses depending entirely on the values of multiple unknown variablesblueguitar322 said:
Well he's giving deflated balls the (lack of) seriousness it deserves, but not the rampant accusations of cheating and corresponding calls for lifetime ban, removal from the Super Bowl, etc.
Not to mention that he missed a golden opportunity to educate laypeople about real science, preferring instead to give into his biases - and isn't that basically his thing?
I've been saying this is what probably happened to anyone who will listen for the past few days. There was a reason BB said that they expected the refs would bring the balls up to 12.5. They submit low and let the refs do their job, so to speak. If the refs don't, oh well, it's absolutely no different than Rodgers over inflating and hoping the refs don't take some air out.MarcSullivaFan said:T&R reporting they have two sources who say that the balls were just below 12.5 when turned in and the refs [returned them unchanged]
Edit: Not sure whether they're claiming the balls were not gauged.
Because he grew up in the Seahawks' culture. Time to Tedy Bruschi to set him aside and have a little chat.brandonchristensen said:Why is Browner talking shit about Sherman? Seems counterintuitive with this mess going on.
Outstanding.Dewy4PrezII said:Well, they have video of him entering the bathroom with the balls and then being dragged out, unconscious, by Ray Rice
Kull said:
Just saying that their source is setting them up to look like parrots while Florio rides off into the sunset as the guy who broke the real story. Maybe there's no journalistic integrity, but these are the big name guys and now they look like chumps.
I don't think he can sue someone for sticking a mic near his face and saying"did you deflate those footballs?"njnesportsfan said:The media should learn their lesson in covering the Richard Jewell case. As I posted yesterday, the ball attendant is not a public figure. If the media expose
him and report things that turn out to be false, he can sue the media for libel and win in court. The threshold for libel for a non-public figure is not very high.
Hidden just like the gun in the bathroom in The GodfatherDeJesus Built My Hotrod said:How long until someone suggests that there is some sort of high-tech PSI gauge/deflating needle hidden in the bathroom? I say its behind the seat cover dispensers. Thank me later Dawkins/Carter/Brunell/Aikman et al.
Brilliant. And in verse form to boot.E5 Yaz said:It wouldn't look good Because
if you're accused of something, and then
after that it's found
the person who would be the one to do the deed
happens to always go to the
one place
in the stadium , every time , where he
could do it with no witnesses,
that
doesn't look good. Doesn't prove shit,
but I don't want this ending
with "have suspicions but nothing
could be proven "
I want
a full exoneration.
I want
to be able to stick it to every last one
of these weasels and
watch them stammer.
I don't want
to deal with years of
" they got off but
everyone
knows they did it"
bullshit.
And a ball boy with
a habit of always
taking his ballsack
to the shitter would not
be a good look.
Burma Shave
Well, in an earlier part of the discussion on the absurd nit-picking about the details of PSI and the rules, I linked to this:djbayko said:
The thread title was "Ballghazi: #inflatethis -- Mark It Zero" four days ago, maybe more. If you mean post-piss media leak, then yeah, it was inevitable.
8slim said:I've been saying this is what probably happened to anyone who will listen for the past few days. There was a reason BB said that they expected the refs would bring the balls up to 12.5. They submit low and let the refs do their job, so to speak. If the refs don't, oh well, it's absolutely no different than Rodgers over inflating and hoping the refs don't take some air out.
So balls that started the game at, say, 12.0, dropped a little more in he first half when exposed to the elements, normal game play, and 250 lb. guys falling on them. Huge scandal.
Leave the gauge. Take the footballs.RedOctober3829 said:Hidden just like the gun in the bathroom in The Godfather
JimD said:Apologies if this was covered already in the thread, but why did the referees give both the Patriots footballs and the Colts footballs to a NE ballboy?
I'll check again, but I saw a suggestion that the ball-attendant is an NFL official, not a "NE" ballboy.JimD said:Apologies if this was covered already in the thread, but why did the referees give both the Patriots footballs and the Colts footballs to a NE ballboy?
Madmartigan said:Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I think it's doable. All you'd have to do is line them all up on the floor, put a pin in each one for 1-2 seconds, and throw them back in the bag. Also, just to play devil's advocate here, if the guy's taking a piss then why not leave the balls outside the bathroom?
Yes, he is atrocious.weeba said:Ian O'Connor is on the permanent blacklist, right?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12234151/robert-kraft-huge-loser-new-england-patriots-found-responsible-deflategate