Minor nits, but Manute started shooting threes at the end of his career and even hit 31% in 92-93. I got the impression that Whiteside got benched due to lack of effort.
Michael Cooper a 6'5 swingman for the LAL brought little on O, but he was a great defensive player, and gave Bird headaches.Eaton, Wallace and Bol are all good.
Not trying to move the goalsposts, but can anyone come up with guards that fit this? Don Chaney?
Tough to separate the chicken from the egg here because throughout the season when he be benched due to match-ups he'd pout and sulk, leading to more time riding the pine. But Whiteside and the other defensive bigs that get minutes for decent teams (Gobert, Adams, even Baynes) are far, far more agile laterally than Bol or Eaton ever were, and are far more capable of flashing out to defend the perimeter for spells. Honestly, if you're familiar with either of those guys, just try to picture them defending the Celtics. Horford would play them off the court.Minor nits, but Manute started shooting threes at the end of his career and even hit 31% in 92-93. I got the impression that Whiteside got benched due to lack of effort.
I never saw any reports or speculation on Smart and his possible re-injuring of his thumb in G1. (I wasn't in the game thread as I watched the game on DVR.) Is the guess that it was just a stinger of sorts?
Yeah, if I recall correctly, it was Simmons who kicked him in the thumb while Smart tripped onto the floor. The second play before the end of the first half.Prior to that there was a play where he came up holding and then shaking the thumb.
I didn't mean Bol and Eaton in particular, just that there is still a place in the game for bigs with terrible offense. Manute Bol was not mobile at all and I don't really remember much of Mark Eaton's career to comment on it either way.
Without knowing anything about qSQ, there is this line in the article - "whereas Philadelphia's attempts came primarily from high-percentage shooters" - that makes me think that the determination of qSQ is based on who is shooting the ball. If this is correct, then the open look from Marcus in 3Q where he was all but dared to shoot probably is a lower qSQ than any contested three by Belinelli.This article points out stats that show the Sixers got better quality shots than the Celtics in game 1, but it sure didn't seem that way to me watching the game. I had just the opposite reaction watching, and it was one of the reasons I'm optimistic for game 2. Anyone else see it that way?
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23388997/why-philadelphia-76ers-better-shape-think-boston-celtics
Hall of famer KC Jones.Eaton, Wallace and Bol are all good.
Not trying to move the goalsposts, but can anyone come up with guards that fit this? Don Chaney?
I'm not sure that the metric accounts for the types of shooters that Philly employs. Guys like Redick, Belinelli, Ilyasova, Saric, et al are strictly catch & shoot guys. So I suspect that a lot of shots as measured by this system might look like quality shots due to distance from the basket and the separation from the defender (after being run off the three point line) without actually being a quality shot (because their guys aren't as good shooting off the bounce).This article points out stats that show the Sixers got better quality shots than the Celtics in game 1, but it sure didn't seem that way to me watching the game. I had just the opposite reaction watching, and it was one of the reasons I'm optimistic for game 2. Anyone else see it that way?
I wouldn't classify them as strictly catch and shoot guys.....particularly Redick who now gets a lot of his own offense on pull ups off the dribble. They are all lethal in catch-and-shoot situations especially with the ball in Simmons hands on a delayed break but they are allcapable of scoring in a variety of ways with the exception of Belinelli.I'm not sure that the metric accounts for the types of shooters that Philly employs. Guys like Redick, Belinelli, Ilyasova, Saric, et al are strictly catch & shoot guys. So I suspect that a lot of shots as measured by this system might look like quality shots due to distance from the basket and the separation from the defender (after being run off the three point line) without actually being a quality shot (because their guys aren't as good shooting off the bounce).
A lot of Boston's defensive planning, obviously, relies on taking the Philly guys out of their comfort zone. The Sixers need more shooters like Rozier.
Artist was never good offensively. He had a couple of years when he peaked at below average.Smart's defense most reminds me of Artest's. Though MWP is a bad comp because he was good offensively. Quinn Buckner was pretty much an all D guard.
He looked strong going forward. I think his real issue right now is lateral movement.Jaylen looked about 50% out there. Get better soon, I'd almost consider resting him game 3 and trying again game 4. All this without Hayward, Kyrie and Jaylen. Unreal.
Finally a good post from you.Well I guess Boston is my daddy
Maybe... i really want this group of young C's to win a road game in the playoffs - learning to win on the road is a stepping stone necessary for trophys. And we haven't seen this group do it yet - so we can skip the "daddy" role play until we see that happen.Well I guess Boston is my daddy
He was still +9 and a significant contributor. As long as he’s not making it worse he should keep playing. He seemed to know his limitations fairly well and I trust the doctors that let him play. Plus if they can win game 3 they at putting themselves in great position for extended rest.Jaylen looked about 50% out there. Get better soon, I'd almost consider resting him game 3 and trying again game 4. All this without Hayward, Kyrie and Jaylen. Unreal.
You have to think they're more likely to win 4 than 3. Sixers are going to come hard on Saturday.These 2 games were great but the real test is coming up. Can they take how they play at home on the road in the playoffs? So far, they haven't shown they can.
Agreed. Game 3 can't be a blowout though. The Sixers are expected to win, but they can't look like they looked in Milwaukee.You have to think they're more likely to win 4 than 3. Sixers are going to come hard on Saturday.
There is lot to digest there, take the night off.Well I guess Boston is my daddy
I think they have a plan for Ben and a team that can execute and stay disciplined. This is when we are reminded he is a rookie, you learn and improve from these games, you got to take your lumps. But hard to see him changing this year.Cross posting from the game-thread:
I think we can say that Brad Stevens has rendered part of the 76ers Euro line-up unplayable in this series. Belinelli and Ilyasova played 28 and 21 minutes in the first game and the results were the 76ers getting torched on defense. Tonight then only got 19 and 16 minutes respectively. That makes it harder for Philly to get buckets.
The next mission is to put more clamps on Covington and continue to chase Redick off the three point line. McConnell, who is far better than Shane Larkin (sorry, Sean and Max), can get his and the Celtics will live with it.
And London, Boston is nobody's daddy. This series is still up for grabs. All the Celtics have done is held on to their home-court advantage. We can revisit when one of these teams wins a game on the road.
I can think of at least one of the other two times...Only the 3rd time a team came back from down 22pts in the playoffs over the last 10yrs.
Before or after the game?Sixers are going to come hard on Saturday.
Not exactly the question asked upthread but from Twitter via the gamethread:I can think of at least one of the other two times...
Before or after the game?
I can think of at least one of the other two times...
True in the last series. Celtics had a better road record in the regular season.I think the sixers can potentially level the series. But it's a hell of an ask to win 4/5 even if three are at home and so far Boston has been significantly less impressive on the road.
Did somebody say Manute Bol?I didn't mean Bol and Eaton in particular, just that there is still a place in the game for bigs with terrible offense. Manute Bol was not mobile at all...
A couple a game to keep them honest and open the lane, but 6? When the rest looks pretty easy for him?I hate watching embiid jack threes when he's the biggest boy inside. In a few years he might get to a realible 3 point guy, and I get some matchups the threat of the three and dragging a slower big out is great but this isn't that matchup, and he isn't that shooter. I think his form and shooting touch elsewhere suggests good things one day. But not now
Celtics road record with Kyrie: 22-8True in the last series. Celtics had a better road record in the regular season.
9 years and ~47 weeks ago:Only the 3rd time a team came back from down 22pts in the playoffs over the last 10yrs.
That's so much worse than having two all stars out for the playoffs. Good excuse to fall back on.Btw Philly got the short end of the stick with 5pm and 6pm starts in games 3&4. That’ll dim the crowd somewhat plus the unusual start time is a benefit.
I thought we got the benefit of a few calls. The trap on Smart where he drew one on Covington, a few no-calls on the other end. I dunno if it was massively slanted or whatever, there weren't any real remote-throwers I don't think... hard to really say whether this was a gold-standard officiating game or if "a few calls likely missed" is too low a bar.Have to give credit where it's due. Who were the officials in that game? That may have been the most well-officiated game I've seen in the NBA this season.