Celtics vs Da Culture - Round 1 (FIGHT!)

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Yup. This smells like a coach backing up his players to take the heat off of them while placing it on himself. He’s become very good at this which is part of the reason his players back him so much in interviews. Let’s see if this works to get his guys ready tomorrow. Should be telling.
Agreed. I'd guess it was 100% on the players not staying attached to their man & closing out properly.
Joe covered for them in the media.

With no Butler, I doubt Joe schemed to give up 23 wide-open + 14 open 3s, esp. when the Heat shoot 41.4% on wide-open 3s.
PLUS these Heat torched Boston with open 3s four times in the playoffs last year. It's not exactly rocket science to see the Heat's only path to beating Boston.

We should see much tighter defense today, if not it will be unfun again.
 

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Hah. Love Robert but he's not quite who I envision giving a pep talk. KG would be so amped for this game you'd run through the proverbial wall.
KG is the dedicated crazy MFer who could get up for a game. I wish we got to see him longer on the parquet. That dude was special.

If KG can't make it I'd second him with Dave Cowens.

Celtic legends aren't going to win this thing, though.

But Celts who want to be legend can.
 

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You guys must be dying with this much time between games. This scheduling really sucks for fans.
It’s given me some time to watch a bunch of other NBA playoff games without much of a rooting interest which has been fun. It has been a good reminder that playoff wins are hard and no team is consistently going wire to wire with 20+ point wins.
 

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Yes 100% effort and lack of urgency especially during halftime where it was easy to say…”Here’s a team we crushed on Sunday, without Butler, they shot lights out in the 1H and we’re still up 3. We good.” As Ed says above….who the heck’s dribble penetration are we afraid of on that team? The only guy was on the bench in steeet clothes. It’s almost always coach speak and there isn’t much doubt to me that this was.
Just to pile on, definitely had to be mostly effort and less scheme.

Even if in theory many of these Heat players are better at driving than shooting 3s, there is no reason to let the inferior team get off a bunch of easy higher variance 3s that could give them a chance at winning.

This Heat team shouldn’t be good enough to win by driving consistently against us, just not enough upside.

This “pick your poison” talk by the players and staff should be reserved for great teams that can really torch you attacking the basket and win that way. Hard to see how this non-Butler Heat team fits into that group.
 

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You guys must be dying with this much time between games. This scheduling really sucks for fans.
I don't particularly mind the wait between games (as noted, other games have been great to watch) but there's something fundamentally bullshit about the fact that our potential 2nd round opponent could have completed their series entirely before we even tip off for game 3.
 

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I don't particularly mind the wait between games (as noted, other games have been great to watch) but there's something fundamentally bullshit about the fact that our potential 2nd round opponent could have completed their series entirely before we even tip off for game 3.
Well, they won't be. That one's going to Friday for sure.
 

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I haven't watched yet: was KP playing low minutes an adjustment to be able to switch 1-5, or did they handle the Bam screens differently from that?
 

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I haven't watched yet: was KP playing low minutes an adjustment to be able to switch 1-5, or did they handle the Bam screens differently from that?
His minutes were low because he picked up two early fouls and sat awhile, and then because the game wasn't competitive in the closing minutes.
 

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Celtics need to keep playing Bam straight up with whatever big is guarding him. 8-18 (4-6) from the line for 20 points and 3 assists, he looks dominant when scoring but the Celtics aren't gonna lose this series by letting Bam go off against KP.

I really love seeing Caleb Martin play like shit.
 

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This team is an absolute wrecking ball when faced with adversity and a soft, fluffy pillow when comfortable. It would really be a good sign if they just played game 4 angry like tonight. It’s also a good sign when they shoot under 30% from distance but still win by 20. A couple more angry curb stompings please.
 

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Celtics need to keep playing Bam straight up with whatever big is guarding him. 8-18 (4-6) from the line for 20 points and 3 assists, he looks dominant when scoring but the Celtics aren't gonna lose this series by letting Bam go off against KP.

I really love seeing Caleb Martin play like shit.
Yeah, that is under 50% TS for Bam, with ~no additional creation or drawing 2 to the ball.

Making that your offense is how you score 84. Even if we went 11-18, it wouldn't change much. The math is so against you when your isos aren't drawing help.
 

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Refs let the Heat play SUPER physical, and the Celtics said “fuck you, we’re bigger and stronger”, and overwhelmed Miami physically on both ends.

Tatum was 6-16, and I couldn’t care less, got thrown a bunch of late clock grenades. 22/11/6 with 0 turnovers, and took over the game when needed. We will need him to be more aggressive in the later rounds, but for now? Controlling the game so well, and played insanely physical. Love the 12 FT’s, didn’t love that he missed four of them, but was just one of those games.

I thought KP set the tone defensively, and White was amazing IMO. Jaylen got to punk Herro a bunch, which I always love.
 

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Refs let the Heat play SUPER physical, and the Celtics said “fuck you, we’re bigger and stronger”, and overwhelmed Miami physically on both ends.

Tatum was 6-16, and I couldn’t care less, got thrown a bunch of late clock grenades. 22/11/6 with 0 turnovers, and took over the game when needed. We will need him to be more aggressive in the later rounds, but for now? Controlling the game so well, and played insanely physical. Love the 12 FT’s, didn’t love that he missed four of them, but was just one of those games.

I thought KP set the tone defensively, and White was amazing IMO. Jaylen got to punk Herro a bunch, which I always love.
At this point, "refs let them play SUPER physical" has been the case in the majority of playoff games I've watched. It's the default.

Like, multiple times a game, regardless of who's playing, I'll be like "the refs let them do THAT??" out loud.

Glad the Celtics are learning to be mean in the new NBA.
 

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At this point, "refs let them play SUPER physical" has been the case in the majority of playoff games I've watched. It's the default.

Like, multiple times a game, regardless of who's playing, I'll be like "the refs let them do THAT??" out loud.

Glad the Celtics are learning to be mean in the new NBA.
Tonight felt extra lol, Bam would have fouled out six times if it was a regular season game, and his name wasn’t Bam.

By the end of the game, the Heat were the ones crying to the refs looking for calls.

View: https://twitter.com/Timi_093/status/1784370970297303486
 

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Bam is a terriffic player. But his offense is...really limited. He does everything ok (passes well, can shoot outside a bit, can post a bit) but he simply can't be a fulcrum, like, at all. He has really limited post moves, and he's not comfortably moving quickly in the paint. He can't do a lot off the dribble, and doesn't really shoot well enough to do it outside. He will get his 15-20 because he's so consistently engaged but he also just isn't a guy you can build the offense around. And that's what Miami wants to do with Butler out.
 

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The number I love, looking the box score, is 28. 28 3 point attempts for Miami.

They could have shot 50% from 3, and still would have lost by 5. That's how you do it.
 

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The number I love, looking the box score, is 28. 28 3 point attempts for Miami.

They could have shot 50% from 3, and still would have lost by 5. That's how you do it.
Feels so weird vs last game. Like Spo said out loud the math game wouldn’t favor them if they didn’t shoot 40. Then they shot 28
 

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Bam is a terriffic player. But his offense is...really limited. He does everything ok (passes well, can shoot outside a bit, can post a bit) but he simply can't be a fulcrum, like, at all. He has really limited post moves, and he's not comfortably moving quickly in the paint. He can't do a lot off the dribble, and doesn't really shoot well enough to do it outside. He will get his 15-20 because he's so consistently engaged but he also just isn't a guy you can build the offense around. And that's what Miami wants to do with Butler out.
You can't really build an NBA offense around a guy who doesn't create advantages if left in iso. It just doesn't work.
 

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Things I liked from this game:

1. Out of the gate with great defensive intensity that they mostly maintained throughout.
2. Struggled offensively out of the gate, but relied onnthe defense and worked their way out of it.
3. Did not get rattled by the Heat's "physicality" aka fouling the Celtics on every trip.
4. Offensive explosion in Q2 that include some sequences that took be back to the 80s. White and Brown worked give-and-gos with KP, something we don't see that often. Best sequence was a rebound and quick outlet by Tatum to a Celtic who advanced the ball to Holiday on the right side... Holiday slowed the play down only to feed it to trailer Brown, who had one of his trademark transition layups in traffic and was fouled. Incredibly, Brown missed the FT but Derrick White crashed the glass from above the break (sort of followed Brown's shot) and got the putback.
5. Held it together in the third and fourth quarters and stymied the Heat when they tried to make a run.

Things I did not like from this game:

1. Not sure... they missed a bunch of FT, I guess.
 

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The number I love, looking the box score, is 28. 28 3 point attempts for Miami.

They could have shot 50% from 3, and still would have lost by 5. That's how you do it.
And the C's did not shoot well from 3, and still won big.
 

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Feels so weird vs last game. Like Spo said out loud the math game wouldn’t favor them if they didn’t shoot 40. Then they shot 28
I haven't watched much of the game yet, but I doubt they shot fewer 3s because they wanted to shoot fewer 3s.
 

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Celtics need to keep playing Bam straight up with whatever big is guarding him. 8-18 (4-6) from the line for 20 points and 3 assists, he looks dominant when scoring but the Celtics aren't gonna lose this series by letting Bam go off against KP.
I thought this was a great game defensively by KP. He really battled and contested shots well with Bam and was consistently good with his weakside rim protection rotation.
 

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I’d like to see the uncontested 3 numbers from the Heat for this game
 

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Yeah, that is under 50% TS for Bam, with ~no additional creation or drawing 2 to the ball.

Making that your offense is how you score 84. Even if we went 11-18, it wouldn't change much. The math is so against you when your isos aren't drawing help.
Yea they didn't collapse nearly as much and stayed with their man on the perimeter. More discipline
They should be very comfortable living with Bam turn around jumper results while KP challenges
 

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Why do you guys think Duncan Robinson played so little? 7 minutes all in the first half. Zero shots. Was Spo feeling that Jovic and Jacquez are a better matchup?
My guess is that he expects the Celts to hunt him to oblivion as soon as he checks in. So he's willing to give up the much-needed three point shooting to prevent that.
 

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Why do you guys think Duncan Robinson played so little? 7 minutes all in the first half. Zero shots. Was Spo feeling that Jovic and Jacquez are a better matchup?
A couple things. Cs finally exploited him on both ends. First, they pressured him when handling the ball. Second, exploited him on defense. All he’s worth is the occasional 3
 

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A couple things. Cs finally exploited him on both ends. First, they pressured him when handling the ball. Second, exploited him on defense. All he’s worth is the occasional 3
More broadly, we kind of did to the Heat tongiht what they have done to us in the past. They don't have a PG, and we put pressure on the ball and forced turnovers.
 

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A couple things. Cs finally exploited him on both ends. First, they pressured him when handling the ball. Second, exploited him on defense. All he’s worth is the occasional 3
Interesting. Maybe that was part of the reason for Patty Mills getting so much run in the fourth. He's old but he does have experience running point in the playoffs? Or more likely it was just the fact that it was a blowout and Spo threw him in there.
 

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"Do the same thing as last game, but with 20% more conviction" is undefeated as an NBA playoff adjustment for superior teams.
And it was so obvious in game 2. Celtics would “close” on their guy to 5 feet instead of 3. Which is the difference in a 3 or passing it.
 

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One thing that stuck out very clearly was that the Heat just weren’t prepared for the Celtics effort level defensively, especially the ball pressure.
 

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More broadly, we kind of did to the Heat tongiht what they have done to us in the past. They don't have a PG, and we put pressure on the ball and forced turnovers.
this needs to continue every game against the Heat. To be honest, it’s kind of amazing they weren’t doing it before
 

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You watch the first two minutes of spo’s pc after the game it is clear that the Heat will be all time physical in game 4. It’s all they have and he knows it and is sending a message to his team.
 

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You watch the first two minutes of spo’s pc after the game it is clear that the Heat will be all time physical in game 4. It’s all they have and he knows it and is sending a message to his team.
Cool, they won't be the last team to do that with Boston in these playoffs.