That was then: Celebrating what was

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Was just watching Inside the NFL, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
 
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Was just watching NFL Network, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
Ha I was watching Inside the NFL this morning, that was fantastic.

#cheatriots
 

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Was just watching Inside the NFL, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
Saw that. LOL. Also, Devin McCourty, after he stripped number 26 of the ball, made sure he "escorted" him a few yards further away from it so only McClellin could recover it.
 

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Was just watching Inside the NFL, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
Same quote was on the episode of Turning Point, at about 3:45 here. The whole 5 minutes is a fun watch.

 

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Seeing the higher view at 3:55, I can't believe Miami thought that was a good defense. Yeah, go ahead and leave a DB 15 yards away from Edelman, when he just needs 7 for the 1st down. It's cool, cause you can have the MLB fake an A-gap blitz and then get out into that zone like 20 feet away quick enough, right? I know my hindsight glasses are 20:20, but still...
 

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Seeing the higher view at 3:55, I can't believe Miami thought that was a good defense. Yeah, go ahead and leave a DB 15 yards away from Edelman, when he just needs 7 for the 1st down. It's cool, cause you can have the MLB fake an A-gap blitz and then get out into that zone like 20 feet away quick enough, right? I know my hindsight glasses are 20:20, but still...
The LB also took about the shittiest angle imaginable; like he thought Edelman might run to the wrong end zone.
 

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This is tangential to the point of this thread, but this article on best/worst officiating of 2016 got me thinking that this past season was the least-obnoxiously-reffed Pats season in recent memory. No outright screw jobs, a la @DEN last year. Also, few games that hinged on calls either for or against us— outside of the Gronk-Seattle-endzone-non-call, it's hard to even think of a high profile call that got much discussion. Of course, the Pats didn't play many close games this season, so that helps reduce the perceived impact of the officiating— but still. Since bad officiating and injuries are the two things that make football bad to watch, this seems something worth 'celebrating what is'.
 

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Seeing the higher view at 3:55, I can't believe Miami thought that was a good defense. Yeah, go ahead and leave a DB 15 yards away from Edelman, when he just needs 7 for the 1st down. It's cool, cause you can have the MLB fake an A-gap blitz and then get out into that zone like 20 feet away quick enough, right? I know my hindsight glasses are 20:20, but still...
The play kind of reminds me of Welker's TD in Miami, where Brady pulled Gronk back into the line to block a blitzer, hit Welker on a hot throw, and the safety made a woeful attempt to undercut the throw:

 

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Well, the Pats do have an advantage. They managed to keep one pretty good player under control for their entire run....so far.
Joe Montana 79-92, Jerry Rice 85-2000... what kind of numbers would Brady have put up with a receiver like Rice.
Peyton Manning played for the Colts for 12 years, and Favre played for GB for 15.
It's not quite as simple as 'one player for the run'.
 

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Was just watching Inside the NFL, and they showed a clip of some white-bearded Dolphins assistant coach on the sidelines taking to the defense about Brady. He looks at the polaroids and says, in almost disbelief, "He's calling the right protection every fucking time."
That, right there, is true Patriots porn.
 

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This is tangential to the point of this thread, but this article on best/worst officiating of 2016 got me thinking that this past season was the least-obnoxiously-reffed Pats season in recent memory. No outright screw jobs, a la @DEN last year. Also, few games that hinged on calls either for or against us— outside of the Gronk-Seattle-endzone-non-call, it's hard to even think of a high profile call that got much discussion. Of course, the Pats didn't play many close games this season, so that helps reduce the perceived impact of the officiating— but still. Since bad officiating and injuries are the two things that make football bad to watch, this seems something worth 'celebrating what is'.
You couldn't wait until AFTER the season is over to write this post?
 

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If Joe Montana had continued playing for another 4 and a half seasons, averaging the following stat line per regular season:

16 Games Started
638 Pass Attempts
414 Pass Completions
4739 Passing Yards
64.8% Completion Percentage
41 TD Passes
3 Interceptions
106.5 QB Rating

He would have career stats roughly equal to Tom Brady. During the additional 8 playoff games he averages:

56 Pass Attempts
35 Completions
273 Yards
61.9% Comp Percentage
1.4 TDs
0.9 INTs
75.6 QB Rating

makes a couple more Super Bowls and loses both on BS last minute shenanigans.

Would we dare say Cool Joe should have hung it up earlier? Fuck no.

GOAT = our guy Tommy (who's not even done yet)
 
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Yeah, that's awesome. I just spent $500 on that gear. Mind you, I don't need it because I sleep naked, but I bought it anyway because Brady.
 

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Nate Burleson talking about Brady, on Good Morning Football -

"Hitting Brady is not enough. I've seen him get up, bounce back, dust his shoulder pads off, and talk trash with the best of them."
 

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What kind of numbers would Brady have put up if they had run the same pass heavy offense his entire career?
I've done this from time to time, but here is what Brady's numbers would be if he:
1--Threw as much as Manning did
2--Played the same # of dome games as Manning


5460/8368 for 66,600 yards, 529 TDs/178 INTs, with a passer rating of 101.8

He'd be about 5000 yards and 10 TDs behind Manning.

Plenty of caveats, but fun to look at.
 

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You know how TB12 and BB always say that there is no stat that correlates more with winning than turnovers? They are 137-13 in the BB era when winning the turnover battle. So yeah.
 

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Patriots' playoff games under BB/TB, and the turnover margin.

2001
Beat Oak 16-13, -1 turnovers
Beat Pit 24-17, +4 turnovers
Beat StL 20-17, +3 turnovers

2003
Beat Ten 17-14, turnovers even
Beat Ind 24-14, +3 turnovers
Beat Car 32-29, turnovers even

2004
Beat Ind 20-3, +3 turnovers
Beat Pit 41-27, +4 turnovers
Beat Phi 24-21, +3 turnovers

2005
Beat Jax 28-3, +2 turnovers
Lost to Den 27-13, -4 turnovers

2006
Beat NYJ 37-16, +1 turnovers
Beat SD 24-21, +1 turnovers
Lost to Ind 38-34, turnovers even

2007
Beat Jax 31-20, +2 turnovers
Beat SD 21-12, -1 turnovers
Lost to NYG 17-14, turnovers even

2009
Lost to Bal 33-14, -2 turnovers

2010
Lost to NYJ 28-21, -1 turnovers

2011
Beat Den 45-10, -1 turnovers
Beat Bal 23-20, -2 turnovers
Lost to NYG 21-17, -1 turnovers

2012
Beat Hou 41-28, +1 turnovers
Lost to Bal 28-13, -3 turnovers

2013
Beat Ind 43-22, +4 turnovers
Lost to Den 26-16, turnovers even

2014
Beat Bal 35-31, +1 turnovers
Beat Ind 45-7, +2 turnovers
Beat Sea 28-24, -1 turnovers

2015
Beat KC 27-20, +1 turnovers
Lost to Den 20-18, -1 turnovers


So....

31 games
15 times they were on the positive side of the turnover ledger (15-0)
5 times they were even in the turnover ledger (2-3)
11 times they were on the negative side of the turnover ledger (6-5)

So from these games, the team that won the turnover battle won 20 of 26 games (76.9%).

If the Patriots win the turnover battle.... Game over (15-0). If they lose it, or if it's even, they're still a 50-50 shot to win (8-8).
 

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None of this is particularly new to Tom Brady fans.

Still, reading it all in one place was fun and a reminder to never take this guy for granted. As if we needed one.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2686534-in-better-shape-than-ever-at-age-39-heres-how-tom-brady-does-it

At the beginning of each season, the Patriots run their players through a battery of strength, speed and agility testing similar to combine drills. The purpose is to measure how the players are declining. But the damndest thing is happening with Brady. In each of the past three years, he improved his test scores in every category, according to Guerrero.
 

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At the beginning of each season, the Patriots run their players through a battery of strength, speed and agility testing similar to combine drills. The purpose is to measure how the players are declining. But the damndest thing is happening with Brady. In each of the past three years, he improved his test scores in every category, according to Guerrero.
Bionics.
 

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Greg Bedard looks at what other teams could learn from Belichick:

{quote]To help the newbies entering the ranks of NFL he coaches and those charged with supporting those newbies (owners, executives, front office), here are some of the macro philosophies that allow Belichick to be better from the rest, gleaned from up-close coverage of Belichick’steams the past six years, along with another 10 years of reporting on them from afar. They are not listed in order of importance.[/quote]

There are 6 categories he goes into:

1. Bring in green assistant coaches, then train them:
2. Have one playbook for each side of the ball:
3. It’s about the right 53, not the best 53:
4. Play the percentages:
5. Always leave yourself an out in personnel:
6. Evolution is eternal:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/12/bill-belichick-philosophy-nfl-coaches-blanket-coverage
 

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At the beginning of each season, the Patriots run their players through a battery of strength, speed and agility testing similar to combine drills. The purpose is to measure how the players are declining. But the damndest thing is happening with Brady. In each of the past three years, he improved his test scores in every category, according to Guerrero.
Yeah, but the portrait in his attic looks AWFUL.
 

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Who knows what Brady is doing with red blood platelet therapy or even stem cells or whatever it is he's doing. And I, for one, support all his efforts at slowing the impact of father time.
My guess is that Brady's (publicized) ascetic lifestyle has a bit to do with it.
 

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Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post celebrating the ageless Brady, with some nice potshots at Manning and Ballghazi while he's at it.

Delicious:

Peyton Manning threw for more yards than any quarterback in the history of the game. Yet in his age-39 season he was a frail, spaghetti-armed ghost who tossed nearly twice as many interceptions as he did touchdowns, was benched for a time and won a Super Bowl on the back of a superior defense. Every snap felt as if it might be Manning’s last, as if he just might wither right in front of us. He retired in the offseason, and the general reaction was “Thank God.”
 

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He didn't write the article, so who cares?
If you were to rank-order all of humanity on "extent to which you should listen to their opinions on Bill Belichick", I'm pretty sure Casserly would rank second-to-last, ahead only of Ron Borges.

It was just a bizarre-seeming choice to me, is all.
 

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Tony Masserotti and Dan Shaugnessy being 3A/3B.

Fucking Mazz STILL thinks the footballs were deflated.