Time for Tatum to develop some elbow soreness?A tank season could potentially turn this team into a juggernaut. I wouldn’t be too upset if they remain in the lottery. Adding a lotto pick and a TPE piece would make this squad pretty formidable from a talent standpoint.
The way he's playing you can just keep him on the court.Time for Tatum to develop some elbow soreness?
If he's suffering from Long Covid, affecting his endurance, maybe he should be resting his lungs to prevent permanent damage. We just don't know enough about the long term effects of this disease.Time for Tatum to develop some elbow soreness?
Florida State is turning out NBA prospect after NBA prospect these days.Just watched the FSU UNC game and color me impressed with Barnes. 6'9 athlete playing the point. Great vision, good passing skills, shot obviously needs work. A force defensively both on the perimeter and inside. If you squint real hard you can see a Pippen type player.
It’s good.Is is it just me, or does this draft class not seem nearly as good as its been hyped to be?
Or he could be another Joe Harris.Every time I watch Corey Kispert I have flashbacks to the NBA lottery bust known by the name of Sam Jacobson.
Cunningham? I just don't see it. I see a very good player, but not one who is dominating at his current level like you'd expect. Not an AD/Durant type prospect imo. Doesn't have those physically dominant characteristics. Of course Harden didn't either and he became an MVP level player, so you never know how a guy will develop.OK, I’ve been watching piles of video and I see a lot of really good players in the pool. Headlined a future MVP candidate (barring injury or Fultzing around with his jumper).
I don't really follow college much but tuned in the other night. Didn't know about the ankle, and all things considered he toughed it out for 40 minutes. NBA spacing should do wonders for him.Cunningham has been playing on one leg since his ankle injury a couple weeks ago. What people are seeing now isn’t the player who could singlehabdedly best almost any team in the country. Aside from the obvious skills he’s shown what I love about his is his competitiveness, defensive instincts and versatility such as when he saved a game with a blocked shot at the rim. There is a decent sized gap to #2 imo.
Yes, people watching Cade in this tourney as sure to not be impressed. If you can find the B2B OT wins over TTech and OU last month, especially the OU game, it would paint a much different story. He’s the real deal.I don't really follow college much but tuned in the other night. Didn't know about the ankle, and all things considered he toughed it out for 40 minutes. NBA spacing should do wonders for him.
The guy’s tough as nails. He’s like a 6’8” Marcus with more offense. I loooove the JalenGs (Suggs and Green), but they’re a long way down from CC Baller.I don't really follow college much but tuned in the other night. Didn't know about the ankle, and all things considered he toughed it out for 40 minutes. NBA spacing should do wonders for him.
Yeah, for a PG, he's HUGE. He's going to create mismatches on offense and should lead to a lot of blocks, steals and rebounds on the other end. He's going to be a positive on both sides of the ball. He's not a lights-out shooter but he still shot 40% from 3 as a freshman.The guy’s tough as nails. He’s like a 6’8” Marcus with more offense. I loooove the JalenGs (Suggs and Green), but they’re a long way down from CC Baller.
Some combo of Luka and LaMelo Ball seems pretty apt, he will be a better defender than either of them though.Yeah, for a PG, he's HUGE. He's going to create mismatches on offense and should lead to a lot of blocks, steals and rebounds on the other end. He's going to be a positive on both sides of the ball. He's not a lights-out shooter but he still shot 40% from 3 as a freshman.
Give him NBA spacing, better support/shooters around him, and he's going to flourish. I've watched him play in 8-10 times this year and I'm really impressed with his game. He didn't shoot the ball very well in the tournament, so I can understand the doubts, but he's the real deal. I have a tough time coming up with a comp for him because he's so big. A bigger Marcus with more offense is a good one. Ben Simmons with a shot? Maybe not as impactful on the defensive end, but better offensively. I've seen Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway mentioned on various sites, as well. His game is built for the NBA.
He's a real four position defender, which in the modern NBA makes him worth his weight in Rhodium. But for me the best part of Cunningham isn't creating mismatches at the 1, it's the ability to play him at the 2-3 and being able to start a good 3&D guy at the 1.Yeah, for a PG, he's HUGE. He's going to create mismatches on offense and should lead to a lot of blocks, steals and rebounds on the other end. He's going to be a positive on both sides of the ball. He's not a lights-out shooter but he still shot 40% from 3 as a freshman.
Give him NBA spacing, better support/shooters around him, and he's going to flourish. I've watched him play in 8-10 times this year and I'm really impressed with his game. He didn't shoot the ball very well in the tournament, so I can understand the doubts, but he's the real deal. I have a tough time coming up with a comp for him because he's so big. A bigger Marcus with more offense is a good one. Ben Simmons with a shot? Maybe not as impactful on the defensive end, but better offensively. I've seen Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway mentioned on various sites, as well. His game is built for the NBA.
Imagine the defensive length backcourt a Cade/Lonzo would provide?He's a real four position defender, which in the modern NBA makes him worth his weight in Rhodium. But for me the best part of Cunningham isn't creating mismatches at the 1, it's the ability to play him at the 2-3 and being able to start a good 3&D guy at the 1.
Giddey to me from the limited tape I've seen, looks like a mix of LaMelo (played same league last year, similar stats) and Slo-Mo Anderson. Great vision and passing, eager to start breaks, but not a top athlete, bit slow footed, gonna have to be more crafty to succeed as a scorer, going to be a size defender not a quick feet one.Thanks to covid I'm way behind on my tape this year (there were 6-8 weeks where I just couldn't process quickly, I think that in this very thread that I accidentally turned Scotty Barnes into a Harrison brother at the height of it). So I've been skimping on the international players so far.
Giddey and Mojave King are two that I have watched some of, but not nearly enough to be comfortable with my evaluations yet. I do like what I've seen of Giddey so far. He's listed as a PG, but no way he can defend smaller/quicker guys in the NBA. If he could fill out a little and maintain his current athleticism he could be a point forward. He's a little like Franz Wagner in that he's got a solid all round game. As I watch more I'll let you know.
I also like King a little as a lottery ticket in the 20-40 range. He's also a solid all round player. More athletic than Giddey, but also a lot smaller and slighter (he's listed at 6'5" 185 but I think those measurements might be a little generous).
I feel like Kispert’s path to success is to be a Joe Harris type on a loaded offensive team. Like with Harris, Redick, and other great college shooters with modest athleticism, I think it’s going to take him time to adjust, if he ever does.I know I’m banging the “prototypes” here but one thing that has stood out to me all year s how badly Kispert and Wagner handled length and athleticism at the college level. I haven’t seen a ton of Wagner to feel nearly as certain as I am about Kispert. I’m like Adam Morrison-certain he’s going to struggle at the next level......and yes I’m absolutely terrified that he’ll be on the board when Ainge picks at #17.
FWIW, Russ was a better 3PT shooter than Suggs in college, .354 to .337 (with better in-conference defenders). Suggs has an amazing overall shooting percentage partly because that offense was so awesome he has so many layups.My preliminary top 15, I'll be back later to build on this. Barnes may overtake the #3 spot as I obsessively go over the video. I have a big dropoff after 8. And I'm probably a lot higher on Keon Johnson than most.
- Jalen Suggs- I may be too high on him at the moment, but he reminds me of Russell Westbrook. If Westbrook could shoot. A relentless attacker on offense. And with enough size to not be huntable on the defensive end.
I haven’t looked at any splits but I believe Suggs went through a stretch this year where he completely lost confidence in his perimeter shot. I am pretty sure it was a fairly extended stretch that was getting so bad that he refused to shoot which dragged down his overall numbers. His mechanics indicate that shooting shouldn’t be a problem for him long term.FWIW, Russ was a better 3PT shooter than Suggs in college, .354 to .337 (with better in-conference defenders). Suggs has an amazing overall shooting percentage partly because that offense was so awesome he has so many layups.
In two years and twice as many minutes Westbrook shot fewer treys than Suggs. With a worse FT% to boot. I stand by my observation.FWIW, Russ was a better 3PT shooter than Suggs in college, .354 to .337 (with better in-conference defenders). Suggs has an amazing overall shooting percentage partly because that offense was so awesome he has so many layups.
Man, that is awfulThere’s rumors on Twitter that BJ Boston was in the car right behind Clarke and saw the crash. Clarke passing is devastating. Ugh.
We're all rooting for a huge crash and burn as deep into the lotto as possible now, right?I guess it’s time to start doing deep dives on the lottery talent given where this season is crashing and burning to. As a prelim I’ll say that so far Scottie Barnes is my favorite player from this pool, even if Cade Cunningham and Jaylen Green are likely to be better. If Boston misses the postseason, I’m officially hoping that they exit the draft with Barnes, who’s the ideal third banana on a team with Tatum and Brown.
Yeah, what's the point of a 1st round exit in 4-5 games?We're all rooting for a huge crash and burn as deep into the lotto as possible now, right?
It's pretty hilarious that the Celtics own pick might be better than the Mem or SAC ones.