Bryan Price dropped 77 F-bombs in a 5-minute media session (now with audio!)

[soxhop411]

@SteveMims_RG: Reds manager dropped 77 F-bombs in a 5-minute media session today. Impressive. http://t.co/EX4vRbWGG1
Someone is angry.


F yea! Audio is back for Bryan Prices rant for the ages. http://t.co/5ICfncD8CV

 

[cwright]

David Cameron ‏@DCameronFG 10m10 minutes ago
"The final tally was 77 uses of the "F” word... and 11 uses of a vulgar term for feces (two bovine, one equine).” http://www.cincinnati.com/story/redsblog/2015/04/20/bryan-price-reds/26101107/ …

 

[AbbyNoho]

He's that angry someone asked where is starting catcher is? Sheesh.

 

[soxhop411]

Some highlights

 

[bankshot1]

It must be a NL thing
 
The Classic Lee Elia rant (NSFW)
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv23pqH9iG0

 

[MakMan44]

It's pretty hilarious how quickly this got out considering why he flipped out. 

 

[Darnell's Son]

He needs to go to the Belichick School of Coach Speak.

 

[PedroSpecialK]

Please please please tell me there will be audio at some point

 

[E5 Yaz]

Imagine the uproar in the local media had he been in Boston

 

[The Gray Eagle]

Funny that in that gigantic thread title that includes his job title, the exact number of f-bombs used, the type of swears used, the length of the media session, and the context of where he swore, there just wasn't room for the minor detail of the name of the Reds manager.
 
His name is Bryan Fucking Price. He's the fucking manager of the fucking Cincinnati fucking Reds.

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

Quentin Tarantino has got his f***ing back on this one.

 

[Darnell's Son]

Funny that in that gigantic thread title that includes his job title, the exact number of f-bombs used, the type of swears used, the length of the media session, and the context of where he swore, there just wasn't room for the minor detail of the name of the Reds manager.
 
His name is Bryan Fucking Price. He's the fucking manager of the fucking Cincinnati fucking Reds.

It's a classic soxhop thread title.

 

[E5 Yaz]

It's a classic soxhop thread title.

 
Copy and paste the exact tweet, hit post button, lather, rinse, repeat

 

[jimbobim]

Imagine the uproar in the local media had he been in Boston

I'm pretty sure the Bos media would melt reacting to something like this.  Could you imagine NESN ? the Radio ? hahahahah 

 

[jimbobim]

Please please please tell me there will be audio at some point

http://www.courier-journal.com/videos/sports/mlb/2015/04/20/26108035/

 

[soxhop411]

http://www.courier-journal.com/videos/sports/mlb/2015/04/20/26108035/

Link is dead :-(

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

Phrasing aside, the man kinda has a point.

 

[MuzzyField]

Phrasing aside, the man kinda has a point.

And the point is what? Price and his staff/organization are living in an era that does't exist anymore.  Adapt or get the fuck out of the way.  He can use all of this "crazy" technology he's fucking complaining about and communicate effectively with his players. 
 
Does this dolt wear diapers to work? How about beating the Cardinals, isn't that his real job?

 

[WayBackVazquez]

Phrasing aside, the man kinda has a point.

What is the point? That the local media should try to keep his "secrets" to help him win games?

 

[soxhop411]

The Audio is back! I repeat the audio is back!
F yea! Audio is back for Bryan Prices rant for the ages. http://t.co/5ICfncD8CV

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

What is the point? That the local media should try to keep his "secrets" to help him win games?

 
How are injuries reported on in the NHL?  They're closely-guarded secrets, with the local media afraid to report them even in the rare cases where they learn what ails a player.  The reason is that opponents will aggressively target an injured area of a player's body if he takes the ice, if they know what's bothering him.  And likewise for the NFL - not ever coach takes a Belichick approach when it comes to their willingness to share injury info, but they doubtless all ought to.
 
In MLB, the vast majority of injuries are never reported on; we read after the season about how Pedroia was playing with a broken this-and-that, or how various guys played through all manner of ailments - and we get occasional hints from the beat reporters that they know far more than they're letting on.  If it's bad enough that the player can't play, they go on the DL and the info is shared.  If it's not, particularly when the info might be of some use to opponents, we pretty much don't hear about it.  It's not a "secret".  It's a secret.  It's information a team doesn't want to get out, because it might prove damaging to them.
 
I think Price has every right to be upset that his own team's beat reporters are outing injury information to his detriment.

 

[WayBackVazquez]

A beat reporter who knows far more than he's letting on is not doing his job.

 

[MuzzyField]

Thanks to social media, beat reporters actually have to do more reporting and less feeding at the buffet line.
 
If college and pro sports don't like the billions of dollars and the fact that non-stop self promotion has created a demand for information light years ahead of waiting for a Sunday notes column to hit the front porch, they are free to turn down the greed and begin reversing the process. 

 

[radsoxfan]

If I was the Reds GM I'd fire Price immediately.  
 
Not because of the bad language, but because he sounds like a clueless buffoon. Even if that tirade had zero profanity, it was just dumb.
 
The short tangent about Billy Hamilton was the only part that, even if misguided, made a little bit of sense.  The majority of the tape was the rantings of a raving lunatic. He's upset beat writers are asking about when his players are coming back?  Or upset that the writers are reporting that players…. who are obviously not with the team…. are in fact not with the team? This guy is a clown.  
 
Everytime we get annoyed that Farrell might be slow to yank a starter or makes a strange in-game move, it's nice to be reminded how much worse it could be. 

 

[soxhop411]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/wROe2dzJDqY

 

[JohntheBaptist]

He keeps asking "how does it benefit us, the world knowing this, I need an answer on that." The answer is that it probably doesn't, but benefitting Bryan Price and the Reds isn't the beat reporter's job, his job is to report what he sees. He gets access, to the benefit of the Reds organization as a whole, and you're required to deal with him because this stokes interest and is of some note to the people the newspapers serve.
 
Nowhere in that does it have a provision for making Bryan Price's job easier because that's nobody's concern but the Reds', and they deemed long ago it was worth the tiny extra inconvenience to him and the team as a whole for them to have to divulge state secrets to the evil sportswriters.
 
Maybe if it's such a huge advantage to have this information he should pick up the Tribune or the Post-Dispatch and check out who's hurt and who's playing for the other side and start getting that leg up.
 
He comes off like a complete idiot, or, at least, someone who is overwhelmed or in over his head for whatever reason. That said--enjoyed it thoroughly.

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

I think Price has every right to be upset that his own team's beat reporters are outing injury information to his detriment.
 

 
The Cincinnati Reds do not employ this beat writer, Rosencrans is employed by the Cincinnati Enquirer. He has ZERO allegiance to the Reds. 
 
You understand this very simple fact, right?

 

[Average Reds]

OK, so I heard the rant on MLB radio this morning for the first time.  When it was done, Steve Phillips said that if he were the GM, he'd have a meeting with Price and his first priority would be to determine whether the manager had an emotional breakdown, because the rant didn't make any sense to him.  Then he said that regardless of the answer, he'd have to consider making a move, because that sort of behavior is completely unacceptable.
 
Much to my astonishment, I found myself in complete agreement with Steve Phillips.
 
 

He comes off like a complete idiot, or, at least, someone who is overwhelmed or in over his head for whatever reason. That said--enjoyed it thoroughly.

 
My money is on the bolded portion.  I'll be shocked if he lasts much longer.

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

He keeps asking "how does it benefit us, the world knowing this, I need an answer on that." The answer is that it probably doesn't, but benefitting Bryan Price and the Reds isn't the beat reporter's job, his job is to report what he sees. He gets access, to the benefit of the Reds organization as a whole, and you're required to deal with him because this stokes interest and is of some note to the people the newspapers serve.
 
Nowhere in that does it have a provision for making Bryan Price's job easier because that's nobody's concern but the Reds', and they deemed long ago it was worth the tiny extra inconvenience to him and the team as a whole for them to have to divulge state secrets to the evil sportswriters.
 
Maybe if it's such a huge advantage to have this information he should pick up the Tribune or the Post-Dispatch and check out who's hurt and who's playing for the other side and start getting that leg up.
 
He comes off like a complete idiot, or, at least, someone who is overwhelmed or in over his head for whatever reason. That said--enjoyed it thoroughly.

 
And as newspaper circulation continues its death spiral maybe the beat writers need a wake-up call since the benefit to franchises of traditional sports media/journalism isn't what it was a few decades ago. Bryan Price isn't the guy to lead the revolution but traditional sports media has been marching toward oblivion for years. It's basically a glorified advertising arm of the sporting world at this point. What's really surprising is that more managers/players/staff don't snap on these idiots when they ask question they know they're not going to get an answer to.

 

[Merkle's Boner]

Love how Price perfectly defined a beat reporters job while telling them that reporting facts isn't their job.

 

[Average Reds]

Love how Price perfectly defined a beat reporters job while telling them that reporting facts isn't their job.

 
My favorite was how he kept saying that he doesn't expect them to be Reds fans, but he expects them to ask "How does this benefit the Reds?" before they write anything.
 
Guy is seriously out of his depth.

 

[Merkle's Boner]

 
My favorite was how he kept saying that he doesn't expect them to be Reds fans, but he expects them to ask "How does this benefit the Reds?" before they write anything.
 
Guy is seriously out of his depth.

It also strikes me as a guy who has no clue about how to deal with the media, which is a pretty fuckin' important job for a MLB manager.  Of course, this may be what you get when you hire someone with zero prior managerial experience.

 

[Average Reds]

It also strikes me as a guy who has no clue about how to deal with the media, which is a pretty fuckin' important job for a MLB manager.  Of course, this may be what you get when you hire someone with zero prior managerial experience.

 
That's what I meant about being out of his depth.
 
If you don't understand that the media's job is to gather and publish information without regard to "what is best for the Reds" then you are not qualified to be the manager, period.  Hell, you're probably not qualified to be the manager of a single A affiliate.

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

A beat reporter who knows far more than he's letting on is not doing his job.

 
A beat reporter who values his access to information knows to exercise judgment in the use of that information.
 
Nobody's winning a pulitzer for investigative journalism here.
 

The Cincinnati Reds do not employ this beat writer, Rosencrans is employed by the Cincinnati Enquirer. He has ZERO allegiance to the Reds. 
 
You understand this very simple fact, right?

 
You understand the simple fact that when you're embedded on a beat, you have a symbiotic relationship with the object of your continued inquiry, right?  And that if you publish something that hurts the interests of what you're covering, that you're more expendable than they are, right?
 
And you understand that asking "are you so dumb that ___?"-style rhetorical questions is super obnoxious, right?  I think my posting history ought to suggest that I'm not a blithering idiot.  Take some deep breaths and understand the "very simple fact" that reasonable people can have a rational difference of opinion.

 

[OCST]

A beat reporter who knows far more than he's letting on is not doing his job.

 
Not necessarily.
 
A beat writer who knows things, but doesn't report them because of the quality of the sourcing/attribution, or some other ethical issue, is practicing responsible journalism.

 

[OCST]

It also strikes me as a guy who has no clue about how to deal with the media, which is a pretty fuckin' important job for a MLB manager.  Of course, this may be what you get when you hire someone with zero prior managerial experience.

 
I think it's the most important.

 

[WayBackVazquez]

A beat reporter who values his access to information knows to exercise judgment in the use of that information.
 
Nobody's winning a pulitzer for investigative journalism here.
 

Yeah, and he exercised that judgment. The fact that one of a team's best players is not with the team is news, and a beat reporter who doesn't report such a fact is derelict. A manager who thinks reporting such a fact is not a beat reporter's job because it doesn't help the Reds is clueless and incompetent. And a poster who throws out ad homs in the face of an entire thread disagreeing with him about something fairly obvious is MDL.

 

[DJnVa]

 
You understand the simple fact that when you're embedded on a beat, you have a symbiotic relationship with the object of your continued inquiry, right?  And that if you publish something that hurts the interests of what you're covering, that you're more expendable than they are, right?

 
And yet Price is the one under fire, not the beat reporter...
 

 

A beat reporter who values his access to information knows to exercise judgment in the use of that information.
 
Nobody's winning a pulitzer for investigative journalism here.

 
He's not a beat reporter, but are you saying someone like Peter King should only report things that look favorably on the subject of the story?
 
Where's the line when that changes to something the public should know?

 

[The Talented Allen Ripley]

And you understand that asking "are you so dumb that ___?"-style rhetorical questions is super obnoxious, right?  I think my posting history ought to suggest that I'm not a blithering idiot. 

 

 

[MuzzyField]

 
And as newspaper circulation continues its death spiral maybe the beat writers need a wake-up call since the benefit to franchises of traditional sports media/journalism isn't what it was a few decades ago. Bryan Price isn't the guy to lead the revolution but traditional sports media has been marching toward oblivion for years. It's basically a glorified advertising arm of the sporting world at this point. What's really surprising is that more managers/players/staff don't snap on these idiots when they ask question they know they're not going to get an answer to.

The saving grace is that the non-beat writer is being scooped by the those outside of the traditional ball washing j-circuit.  These new media entrepreneurs are publishing info the beat writer likely knows, but in the past could keep out of their coverage and be confident it wouldn't leak out.  The pubic is searching for and finding these alternate sources.  Engaging and interesting content wins, either produce it or join the dinosaurs.
 
The SEC football world is on lock-down as far media coverage goes.  The coaches can't keep a lid on things now that their golfing/drinking buddy media gangs have been infiltrated by the online world.

 

[Granite Sox]

Funny that in that gigantic thread title that includes his job title, the exact number of f-bombs used, the type of swears used, the length of the media session, and the context of where he swore, there just wasn't room for the minor detail of the name of the Reds manager.
 
His name is Bryan Fucking Price. He's the fucking manager of the fucking Cincinnati fucking Reds.

 
Well... this is the exact type of thing that the manager isn't going to put out there, since SoSH and TGE are just going to sniff it out anyways.

 

[curly2]

I think Price is totally in the wrong.
 
There are some things reporters should keep under their hat. If a player in unavailable for a very sick child or some other very personal reason like that, there is no need for that to come out. Just say the manager said he was unavailable.
 
But to not question why an obvious move (Mesoraco pinch hitting) would have been inexcusable for the reporter. How many times over the years in game threads have we asked. "Why didn't (Jimy/Grady/Tito/Bobby V/Farrell) use (insert hitter or pitcher) in that spot?" and then find after the game that Edes or Abraham or someone tweets "(Jimy/Grady/Tito/Bobby V/Farrell) said (XX) was battling a stomach bug and was unavailable."
 
Issue settled, and everyone moves on.
 
There's no need to a manager to be like Captain Queeg.

 

[snowmanny]

He could say "We do what's best for the team.  Coach's decision."
And be hated for that instead.

 

[DanoooME]

Fuck him.  The guy he was yelling at primarily, when Price asked if anyone else had anything, should have said "OK, so you didn't answer my question.  What's going on with Devon?"
 
I agree with others above.  He won't last the season.  Because now the writers have no reason to support Price after that.  And the pieces will start flying about how Price sucks.  Can you imagine if CHB was in that crowd?  He'd write a vindictive piece about Price every day until at least a week after he gets fired.

 

[JGray38]

Yeah, that Price doesn't understand the symbiotic aspect of the media baffles me. The media drums up fan interest- it's free marketing. That benefits the Reds. The media gives him excuses and a free pass for questionable in-game decisions by offering explanations later (if they like him, anyway). That benefits him directly. But instead, he's fixated on how publishing injury news doesn't benefit him, which doesn't strike me as a very big deal in terms of on field tactics. This is all over a question about one PH at bat.

 

[Buffalo Head]

I think the real source of Price's anger is the chance -- and therefore premature -- revealing of the roster move. Managers take that aspect incredibly seriously, so to have a player find out he's being sent down via the media, and not via the manager first, is hugely embarrassing and uncomfortable within the clubhouse for that manager. It's not good.
 
Now, that's not the reporter's problem. He essentially lucked into that story and he was absolutely in the right to publish it. Even a minor scoop is a good scoop. But I can certainly see Price fuming over it. The pinch-hit thing just provided an opening of the floodgates.
 
That said, he should have pulled the reporter aside before the pregame meeting and aired his grievance in private. Things like this happen all the time. All the time. Price just chose a terrible way to deal with it.

 

[mt8thsw9th]

How many times over the years in game threads have we asked. "Why didn't (Jimy/Grady/Tito/Bobby V/Farrell)

 
Joe Kerrigan has a sad.
 
Though in his defense, I don't think anyone was watching by then.

 

[curly2]

 
Joe Kerrigan has a sad.
 
Though in his defense, I don't think anyone was watching by then.

 
I completely forgot Kerrigan -- at least Kerrigan the manager. 

 

[Average Reds]

 
A beat reporter who values his access to information knows to exercise judgment in the use of that information.
 
Nobody's winning a pulitzer for investigative journalism here.
 
 
You understand the simple fact that when you're embedded on a beat, you have a symbiotic relationship with the object of your continued inquiry, right?  And that if you publish something that hurts the interests of what you're covering, that you're more expendable than they are, right?
 

 
Your points are well taken, but they just don't apply here.
 
From what I'm able to gather, Price has been saying that Devin Mesoraco has a minor "hip impingement" that would limit his status to day-to day but that he should be available to pinch hit on days when he was not in the lineup.  Of course, Mesoraco wasn't available to pinch hit on Sunday or Monday because he wasn't even in the park, which prompted questions about where he was.  And then it came out that Mesoraco's condition is actually a bit more serious than the club is letting on - he's being advised to rest for three to four weeks and may need season-ending surgery.
 
Besides being embarrassing, this lie calls into question Price's competence as a manager, because Mesoraco has been used as a pinch hitter during a period of time when he is (apparently) being advised to rest with no baseball activities.  And Price doesn't want to answer these questions, so he went on his tirade asking "How does this benefit the Reds?" 
 
It's one thing to say that beat reporters should use their judgement when the team shares information with them.  It's quite another to suggest they shouldn't ask questions about this once a lie is uncovered.

 

[Gagliano]

Besides being embarrassing, this lie calls into question Price's competence as a manager, because Mesoraco has been used as a pinch hitter during a period of time when he is (apparently) being advised to rest with no baseball activities.

Actually, he hasn't pinch hit at all. He was shelved after the game on the 12th, and hasn't been available since then. But yeah, your point stands, and the Reds are kind of in disarray right now.