9/16/2023 - WooSox only: Kluber, Ort & Kelly

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Canceled kind of implies that they don't tend intend to play a doubleheader tomorrow. Wonder if Portland's season is just over?

It looks like it's only supposed to rain from 2 to 4 today with winds up to 20 mph. Seems like they should be able to play a game this evening if they wanted to?

Supposed to by sunny all day tomorrow with winds up to 9 mph, so it seems like they could play a doubleheader tomorrow if they wanted.

Don't know if they have other events scheduled for the park or anything I guess, but they should make it happen.
 
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Greenville starts their series with Hudson Valley tomorrow at 2:05 in Hudson Valley. Game will be available for free on MiLB. Starters haven't been announced, yet.

Feels like they should roll with...

Sunday - Perales
Tuesday - Penrod
Wednesday - Yordanny
 
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Politi is not the most exciting interview subject.

“The main thing is just getting healthy.” Politi said. “I have dealt with a few injuries this year that I have pushed through. They have made it a little taxing. I have tried to push through it and finish the season as strong as I could. It’s just getting my arm healthy again and back to 100% and getting back in the pitching lab and working on my pitches to get them back to where they should be.”
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He's a guy who it may have been interesting to give some MLB run this year, though, to see if he's part of their plans.

But he's 27 & pitched worse this year as a closer (4.61 ERA/4.96 xFIP) than he did last year in a multi-inning relief role (2.41 ERA/4.08 xFIP), so it probably makes sense not to 40 him & have him part of a relief pitching shuttle to the MLB team next year if he's still around.
 
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I was tempted to name the thread "Big KOK on display in Worcester", but decided against it.
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Heh.

It's a bit odd though to see these three sort of lumped together in a rehab situation, mostly because they all seem to be going in completely different directions.

-Kluber's career is over unless he's able to spin himself as a bullpen arm, which he spectacularly failed to do in the majors.

-Ort (while an enjoyable punching bag) has control issues, which might be fixable, but don't require him throwing to ML pitchers.

-But you've just got to root for Kelly to do well after his injury. He seems like he can transition to a serviceable RH RP.
 
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Heh.

It's a bit odd though to see these three sort of lumped together in a rehab situation, mostly because they all seem to be going in completely different directions.

-Kluber's career is over unless he's able to spin himself as a bullpen arm, which he spectacularly failed to do in the majors.

-Ort (while an enjoyable punching bag) has control issues, which might be fixable, but don't require him throwing to ML pitchers.

-But you've just got to root for Kelly to do well after his injury. He seems like he can transition to a serviceable RH RP.
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Yeah, Kelly has been useful over parts of the last 2 seasons. He actually could have been a key part of the pen this year if he didn't run into health issues. He's in the same bucket as Mills & Mata in that regard (& Joely to some extent).

It makes sense that they're all trying to get a few innings in before the end of the season, though, with Worcester almost the only place left to do it.

I think them doing right by Kluber is good PR to other players & agents, & he's probably a good guy to have around the WooSox pitchers.

& Ort? He's probably going to be seen as a poster boy for Bloom's failings, & then go somewhere else & succeed & people may realize it was the coaching all along.
 
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I was thinking for my next rankings project to stop differentiating between prospects & Major League players & just rank everyone in the org from 1 to 300 or whatever.

There would be some logistical issues with that, though, including whether to factor in salary & what exactly they're actually being ranked on. Remaining MLB career? Value to the org?
 
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Canceled kind of implies that they don't tend intend to play a doubleheader tomorrow. Wonder if Portland's season is just over?

It looks like it's only supposed to rain from 2 to 4 today with winds up to 20 mph. Seems like they should be able to play a game this evening if they wanted to?

Supposed to by sunny all day tomorrow with winds up to 9 mph, so it seems like they could play a doubleheader tomorrow if they wanted.

Don't know if they have other events scheduled for the park or anything I guess, but they should make it happen.
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It is really, really windy here. Not 20mph by any stretch of the imagination. Neither team is going into the postseason so tomorrow is the last game; the team loses the gate for today regardless. No one wants to play two tomorrow, believe me.
 
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Just added a new column to my SS.

Oddanier Mosqueda is the only current prospect still left over from Ben Cherington.
 
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It is really, really windy here. Not 20mph by any stretch of the imagination. Neither team is going into the postseason so tomorrow is the last game; the team loses the gate for today regardless. No one wants to play two tomorrow, believe me.
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Weather.com lied to me. But that's all fair.
 
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JM3 said:
Just added a new column to my SS.

Oddanier Mosqueda is the only current prospect still left over from Ben Cherington.
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I wonder how to categorize the guys signed between DD's firing & CB's hiring.
 
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I wonder how to categorize the guys signed between DD's firing & CB's hiring.
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The "Gang of 4", O'Halloran, Ferreira, Scott & Romero were in charge during that period.

Eddie Romero is the international guy, & it's IFAs in question, so I'll label those guys "ER".
 
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Side note... how often do y'all think about the Roman Empire?

I've been seeing this meme & I'm always like uhhh never... but I realize I'm in here every day talking about ROMAN...

& THE ROMAN EMPIRE is a pretty good nickname for him. So maybe I'm not an exception after all.
 
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When I start to revisit my ranks I start by moving people based on feel. My feel had Stephen Scott dropping a good ways. Let's see if my feel is supported by reality...

In his last 21 games, Scott is 9-74 with 1 double, 1 triple, 0 homers, 14 walks & 22 strikeouts.

That is a slash of .122/.261/.162 for a .423 OPS.

Yes, it's not a huge sample, but it's troubling for a guy who needs to rake to find a job & is already 26.
 
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Almost done with some new rankings. I planned to wait until after the season, but YOLO.
 
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I made the last bunch of posts in the wrong thread, but the cliffs are Worcester is down 7-2 b9.
 
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Worcester lost 7-2.

Rio allowed 2 runs in 5 innings, Kelly allowed 2 runs in 0.2 innings, Shugart allowed 3 runs in 1.1 innings, Ort pitched a 1-2-3 inning with a strikeout & Ryan Fernandez pitched an 8-pitch 1-2-3 9th.
 
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Rosier didn't start, but pinch hit in the 9th & got a single. He's gotten 1 hit in all 4 of his games since getting called back up & is 4-10 with 1 double, 1 walk & 1 strikeout.

Koss was 2-4 with a double.

Valdez was 1-2 with 2 walks.

The prestigious law firm of Sogard, Crook & Kavadas each went 1-4.
 
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JM3 said:
When I start to revisit my ranks I start by moving people based on feel. My feel had Stephen Scott dropping a good ways. Let's see if my feel is supported by reality...

In his last 21 games, Scott is 9-74 with 1 double, 1 triple, 0 homers, 14 walks & 22 strikeouts.

That is a slash of .122/.261/.162 for a .423 OPS.

Yes, it's not a huge sample, but it's troubling for a guy who needs to rake to find a job & is already 26.
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Scott was 0-3 with a walk & 3 strikeouts.

So 9-77, 15 walks, 25 strikeouts.

He's making it easier to ensure he doesn't get claimed R5.
 
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Side note...Hernandez was also 0-3 with a walk & 3 strikeouts & seem to recall him struggling lately, just not as much (he did get his 2nd steal today). Let's find out!
 
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Side note...Hernandez was also 0-3 with a walk & 3 strikeouts & seem to recall him struggling lately, just not as much (he did get his 2nd steal today). Let's find out!
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Hernandez is 7-46 since 8/31 with 3 doubles, 6 walks & 12 strikeouts.

That's a slash of .152/.250/.217 (.467 OPS).

So yes, just not as badly as Scott.
 
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