72 Suburbs in Search of a City: Anthony Davis to Los Angeles Lakers

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It’s going to be him, something in me just feels it.
Maybe, but Woj's latest makes it seem like Kyrie to Brooklyn is about as done as Kemba to Boston, and D'Angelo Russell is more likely for the Lakers (though other teams are still in play for him):
Six-time All-Star Kyrie Irving will be meeting with the Brooklyn Nets on Sunday in New York, and both sides are motivated to reach a deal on a four-year, $141 million maximum contract, league sources told ESPN on Saturday.
Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka reached out to Russell's agents to set up a meeting to discuss a possible reunion with Los Angeles, league sources told ESPN. The Lakers, flush with $32 million in salary-cap space, are searching for a third All-Star to partner with LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Both the Lakers and Russell are interested in exploring a potential return to Staples Center.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27084045/sources-irving-nets-moving-4-year-deal
 

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None of these free agents are under contract with another team to where tampering can occur. Free agents are allowed meet with teams during the moratorium, but no contract agreements can become official until the end of the moratorium.
The moratorium hasn't started yet. Technically it's tampering until then.

As long as the season is over though, no one cares.
 

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Sure, why not?

Off the Table
Kemba Walker
Klay Thompson


Looking Very Unlikely
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
Jimmy Butler
Khris Middleton
Malcolm Brogdon
Nikola Vucevic
D'Angelo Russell
Tobias Harris
We can scratch Vuc off the list too, apparently he's agreed to $100 million over four years to stay with Orlando, per Shams:
Orlando free agent All-Star Nikola Vucevic plans to commit to a four-year, $100 million deal to return to the Magic, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145178732023484417
 

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The moratorium hasn't started yet. Technically it's tampering until then.

As long as the season is over though, no one cares.
I strongly disagree with this as the way the language is written is similar to Woj-language in his tweets. This year the NBA added a period of time before the beginning of the moratorium where teams and players can be in contact strictly to set up meetings. Contract details and agreements will still not be allowed.

You can't negotiate prior to 7/1, you can't schedule meetings prior to 6/29, and you can't negotiate contracts prior to that.....but you CAN discuss setting up meetings. The media can speculate but the only contract numbers I had heard was Harrison Barnes who was still with Sacramento. Sure, we've heard what say the Celtics would offer Kemba but that is an obvious max just as the other obvious max deals are being rumored. Is there a non-max negotation that has been reported? If there are I'll gladly concede but I haven't seen that.
 

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I strongly disagree with this as the way the language is written is similar to Woj-language in his tweets. This year the NBA added a period of time before the beginning of the moratorium where teams and players can be in contact strictly to set up meetings. Contract details and agreements will still not be allowed.

You can't negotiate prior to 7/1, you can't schedule meetings prior to 6/29, and you can't negotiate contracts prior to that.....but you CAN discuss setting up meetings. The media can speculate but the only contract numbers I had heard was Harrison Barnes who was still with Sacramento. Sure, we've heard what say the Celtics would offer Kemba but that is an obvious max just as the other obvious max deals are being rumored. Is there a non-max negotation that has been reported? If there are I'll gladly concede but I haven't seen that.
Speculate about numbers? Just look at the news reports today. Contract terms are obviously being discussed and agreed to so that these meeting become signing events.
 

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Speculate about numbers? Just look at the news reports today. Contract terms are obviously being discussed and agreed to so that these meeting become signing events.
These are all max guys.....everyone knows what their contracts are going to look like. Powell is staying with Dallas so that number can be reported just as Barnes was. The only questionable one I see is Detroit and Rose's agent BJ Armstrong with sources saying both sides want a 2-year deal.

Is this conversation from last night considered tampering.......

Det: We'd like to set up a meeting once 6pm on 6/29 hits.
BJ: Sure. I've got a slot open at 2:20 in the morning.
Det: I was thinking a little sooner maybe 2:15am.
BJ: Ok, we'll do a call around then.

That passes the test and I'm sure it's pretty easy to discuss numbers without discussing numbers prior to meeting. The other thing is that these are only "reports" and the media guys are racing to be the first to tweet something which may not always be accurate from their sources.
 

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You really think that all they’re doing is scheduling meetings? They’re not doing any sort of informal sales pitch, answering questions about team culture, coaching philosophy, future vision, or anything like that. And the players are ready to sign anyways? That’s....interesting.
 
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You really think that all they’re doing is scheduling meetings? They’re not doing any sort of informal sales pitch, answering questions about team culture, coaching philosophy, future vision, or anything like that. And the players are ready to sign anyways? That’s....interesting.
Everyone knows more is happening, and no one gives a shit. Tampering pedantry is boring as hell.
 

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I strongly disagree with this as the way the language is written is similar to Woj-language in his tweets. This year the NBA added a period of time before the beginning of the moratorium where teams and players can be in contact strictly to set up meetings. Contract details and agreements will still not be allowed.

You can't negotiate prior to 7/1, you can't schedule meetings prior to 6/29, and you can't negotiate contracts prior to that.....but you CAN discuss setting up meetings. The media can speculate but the only contract numbers I had heard was Harrison Barnes who was still with Sacramento. Sure, we've heard what say the Celtics would offer Kemba but that is an obvious max just as the other obvious max deals are being rumored. Is there a non-max negotation that has been reported? If there are I'll gladly concede but I haven't seen that.
Seen quite a bit of Horford 4/112
Vucevic 4/100
And just saw Jonas Valanciunis at 3/45

It's all technically tampering. I just think the NBA isn't worried about tampering 2 days before free agency like they are Magic Johnson tampering a year before free agency, nor should they.
 

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Seen quite a bit of Horford 4/112
Vucevic 4/100
And just saw Jonas Valanciunis at 3/45

It's all technically tampering. I just think the NBA isn't worried about tampering 2 days before free agency like they are Magic Johnson tampering a year before free agency, nor should they.
Vucevic and Valanciunis are returning to their current teams. There is 100% tampering going on all over the place, but that isn't an example
 

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Vucevic and Valanciunis are returning to their current teams. There is 100% tampering going on all over the place, but that isn't an example
Not 100% on Vucevic since he's an expiring contract, Valanciunis(and Barnes) 100% are though.

Once they opt out of their contracts, they are free agents and you're not allowed to talk to them.

We had this happen here when Pierce opted out of his deal, they weren't technically allowed to talk to him until July 1st.
 

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Kawhi's camp has been in contact with Magic.

This is turning into the worst offseason ever.
 

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Kawhi's camp has been in contact with Magic.

This is turning into the worst offseason ever.
The Celtics got Kemba and are maneuvering to at minimum be able to offer the full MLE to a big (or split it up among a couple additional guys). This offseason could have been A LOT worse.
 

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The Celtics got Kemba and are maneuvering to at minimum be able to offer the full MLE to a big (or split it up among a couple additional guys). This offseason could have been A LOT worse.
He's a Clippers fan.
 

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It’s looking an awful lot like Kawhi or bust. Gulp.

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Klay Thompson
Nikola Vucevic
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Khris Middleton


Looking Very Unlikely
Jimmy Butler

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
Malcolm Brogdon
D'Angelo Russell
Tobias Harris
 

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Forgot to add that. Obviously good for other teams, just for me personally living in LA, when they get Kawhi tonight, I'm beyond done with the league

Living in LA during a laker dynasty is fucking hell
 

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This is going to be so disappointing, isn’t it?

Off the Table
Kemba Walker
Klay Thompson
Nikola Vucevic
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Khris Middleton
Malcolm Brogdon


Looking Very Unlikely
Jimmy Butler

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
D'Angelo Russell
Tobias Harris
 

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This is going to be so disappointing, isn’t it?

Off the Table
Kemba Walker
Klay Thompson
Nikola Vucevic
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Khris Middleton
Malcolm Brogdon


Looking Very Unlikely
Jimmy Butler

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
D'Angelo Russell
Tobias Harris
??? You realize if they land Kawhi, looks likely, they can coast to the finals, right?

How is that disappointing?
 

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For the first time in forever every Celtics fan is pulling for Jerry West to hit the game winning shot.
There has been no talk on butler at all which apparently is a piece needed to entice Kawhi
 

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Off the Table
Kemba Walker
Klay Thompson
Nikola Vucevic
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Khris Middleton
Malcolm Brogdon
Tobias Harris


Looking Very Unlikely
Jimmy Butler

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
D'Angelo Russell
 

ElUno20

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The way these chips are falling, the lakers must be extremely confident they've got Kawhi
 

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Yes, you were the guy posting all of last season about how terrible LeBron was based on his
The way these chips are falling, the lakers must be extremely confident they've got Kawhi
If it was a done deal...I think it'd be a done deal. Agree they're all chips in on Kawhi, but I don't see that they can know they have him. If they don't get him...maybe Russell and a 2nd/3rd tier guy? The options post Kawhi are dwindling.

I agree with the strategy -- Kawhi is that good. But it's risky at the pace guys are getting signed.
 

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Why? Miami and Philly weren't options for him.
If you think Kawhi was only interested in the Clippers if paired with another star, then this shuts the door there. I think this thinking isn't nuts. Sure feels like Kawhi to the Lakers is likely right now, though the Toronto 1+1 makes a lot of sense still.
 

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Kawhi's inner circle was hinting a few hours ago it was down to the Lakers and the Raptors, and the Butler deal happened right after that.
 

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His options are go battle it out with an improved east or take an easy 3-4 years of titles with the lakers. I think it's pretty clear.

So disgusted by this whole clipper organization. They got schooled by rob fn pelinka. Jesus christ.
 

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So disgusted by this whole clipper organization. They got schooled by rob fn pelinka. Jesus christ.
Come on...I know it sucks as a Clippers fan, but they didn't get schooled. It's today's NBA--Lebron wanted AD and now wants Kawhi. The Clips weren't outmaneuvered.
 

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Come on...I know it sucks as a Clippers fan, but they didn't get schooled. It's today's NBA--Lebron wanted AD and now wants Kawhi. The Clips weren't outmaneuvered.
You make moves to acquire stars, you take gambles (like trade away your whole team), so free agents want to come and play with other stars. The lakers destroyed and shitted on them despite being completely incompetent for the last 8 years
 

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You make moves to acquire stars, you take gambles (like trade away your whole team), so free agents want to come and play with other stars. The lakers destroyed and shitted on them despite being completely incompetent for the last 8 years
Yes. Because of Lebron, not anything the Clippers did wrong. He picked the Lakers, and got AD to come there because of that.
 

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Yes. Because of Lebron, not anything the Clippers did wrong. He picked the Lakers, and got AD to come there because of that.
I think his point is basically the Clippers should have been able to get Lebron to come there instead.
 

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I'm disappointed with Kawhi if he does this. He's already won 2 finals MVPs. He should ask Durant if winning empty titles was fulfilling.
 

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I'm disappointed with Kawhi if he does this. He's already won 2 finals MVPs. He should ask Durant if winning empty titles was fulfilling.
Come on. This would not be comparable to the Durant situation in the least. This is very comparable to the LeBron/Miami situation however, and it seems like all of LeBron/Wade/Bosh enjoyed their time there.
 

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Lebron, Bosh, and Wade had spent 3 seasons getting worked by the Celtics, and 2 of those guys had not won titles yet. I kind of get the Miami comparison if the Warriors were healthy and staying intact with Durant, but that is clearly not the case.
 

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Come on, Kawhi. Pull a PG13. You're a proven champion. No need to get any of that Durant stench on you.

Worst Case Scenario
Kawhi Leonard

Possibly In Play
D'Angelo Russell

Off the Table
Kemba Walker
Klay Thompson
Nikola Vucevic
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Durant
Khris Middleton
Malcolm Brogdon
Tobias Harris
Jimmy Butler