I played a couple weeks after the Farmers and got the same welcome from the rough. It was the hardest/longest rough I've ever played. You'd see where your ball went and then good luck finding it, even if you were standing right next to it. I flushed a hybrid out of the rough on #6 and it went maybe 50 yards. Accuracy and length off the tee is going to be critical this week.Do they play both courses or just the North? Last time I played there they had reconfigured the North (which used to be inferior to the South Course) for competition (side note: we played a couple of weeks before the Farmers Open and that's where I learned that PGA-regulation rough is nothing to mess with--if you didn't get your drive on the fairway, your caddy wasn't finding your ball).
Correct. I believe the North Course is used for the regular season event before the cut (players play one round North, one round South on Thurs-Fri).They only play the South Course.
This is correct. The North has traditionally been the scoring course in that event.Correct. I believe the North Course is used for the regular season event before the cut (players play one round North, one round South on Thurs-Fri).
Had it backwards. It's Reed/Rahm/Leish going off the back. Just noted it since those two groups have the same tee time. Some of the other groups I posted are off the back too but i was lazy and didn't note them.DJ, Rory, and Rose going off on the back?
I am 100% convinced that Bryson's "this doesn't really matter at all too me" comments over the last few weeks are total bullshit and he is actually deeply deeply irked by Koepka in a way Koepka probably isn't. His comments on the matter just scream insecurity.Apparently the USGA approached Bryson about playing with Brooks on Thursday/Friday but Bryson declined.
Good. The USGA probably was thinking it might be a small ratings bump or something to advertise but these guys seem to really not like being around each other. Trying to manufacture TMZ style drama isn't something the USGA should be doing intentionally.Apparently the USGA approached Bryson about playing with Brooks on Thursday/Friday but Bryson declined.
Granted it was a long time ago, but when I was working for the USGA, parts of the North Course were used as a staging area for our operations team.Correct. I believe the North Course is used for the regular season event before the cut (players play one round North, one round South on Thurs-Fri).
I think this is where I come down. I enjoy the silly back and forth they are having. It is different and breaks up the day to day monotony of following the PGA Tour. I'm just not sure shoehorning it into a major championship is the right place for it. It'll be fantastic if it happens during the weekend and both are in contention.Good. The USGA probably was thinking it might be a small ratings bump or something to advertise but these guys seem to really not like being around each other. Trying to manufacture TMZ style drama isn't something the USGA should be doing intentionally.
The Ryder Cup with both of them should be very interesting.I think this is where I come down. I enjoy the silly back and forth they are having. It is different and breaks up the day to day monotony of following the PGA Tour. I'm just not sure shoehorning it into a major championship is the right place for it. It'll be fantastic if it happens during the weekend and both are in contention.
IME, most show-off braggart types are all insecure at their core. I don't care for the guy, honestly.I am 100% convinced that Bryson's "this doesn't really matter at all too me" comments over the last few weeks are total bullshit and he is actually deeply deeply irked by Koepka in a way Koepka probably isn't. His comments on the matter just scream insecurity.
Wild speculation: they will not be paired together.The Ryder Cup with both of them should be very interesting.
Yeah it does. One of the problems with having a major at a regular tour stop. And Torrey is pretty meh as a course.This basically feels like a Farmer's Open in July. Absolutely does not feel like a major.
Agreed on Torrey. Doesn’t really utilize the fact that it’s on the coast like Pebble does. No really distinguishing holes other than maybe 18. And 18 is only really famous for Tiger’s putt in 08.Yeah it does. One of the problems with having a major at a regular tour stop. And Torrey is pretty meh as a course.
I think #3 is pretty memorableAgreed on Torrey. Doesn’t really utilize the fact that it’s on the coast like Pebble does. No really distinguishing holes other than maybe 18. And 18 is only really famous for Tiger’s putt in 08.
I just came to post this.Rory is -1 through 5. Usually +4 about now in recent majors so maybe he’s got something going this week.
He just holed out for a very improbable birdie on 7. Now -2I just came to post this.
Kinda wish there was more than just 1 memorable hole though, given the setting. The holes just kinda run together for me. Long, deep rough. Couple of cool visuals with the cliffs and sea but that’s it.I think #3 is pretty memorable
I agree. I've played it an it's sort of the anti-Pebble. Pebble has a few holes inland. Torrey has a few holes on the water.Kinda wish there was more than just 1 memorable hole though, given the setting. The holes just kinda run together for me. Long, deep rough. Couple of cool visuals with the cliffs and sea but that’s it.
Just shifting back to the 'cockUS Open broadcast is getting shut down for swimming qualifying. Insanity.
Per Golf Channel, first round stroke average is 73.9, or about 3 over par. That seems US Openy, although it’s a stroke less than the first round of 2008.Seems like the only real defense this course has is the rough and it hasn’t been a factor much yet.
Yeah maybe I just have unreasonable expectations of a slaughterhouse.Per Golf Channel, first round stroke average is 73.9, or about 3 over par. That seems US Openy, although it’s a stroke less than the first round of 2008.
First round stroke average at the Farmers Insurance Open this year was 73.36 (On the South course).Per Golf Channel, first round stroke average is 73.9, or about 3 over par. That seems US Openy, although it’s a stroke less than the first round of 2008.
Interesting. Was the Farmers played as a par 72?First round stroke average at the Farmers Insurance Open this year was 73.36 (On the South course).