Getting a 2003-2004 Lakers vibe from the 2021-2022 squad.
I can’t speak for others but I’d have to assume 98% of the “Clippers killed it in the offseason” had to do with them being able to extend Kawhi and then retain Jackson, Batum, and Ibaka.https://theathletic.com/2775013/2021/08/25/from-pistons-to-rockets-no-10-1-ranking-the-nbas-best-offseason-moves-by-team/
Aldridge has the Clippers and Rockets as his 1 & 2 for their offseason work. I know there are a few Rockets/Clip fans around here so I've posted. Didn't realize Eric Bledsoe had so much value?
Same. Or 2012-13. How can anyone possibly compete with a starting 5 of Nash-Kobe-Artest-Gasol-Howard? Might as well call the season.Getting a 2003-2004 Lakers vibe from the 2021-2022 squad.
Yeah, even though we all thought Kawhi was heading back it still is the biggest signing of the offseason impact-wise.I can’t speak for others but I’d have to assume 98% of the “Clippers killed it in the offseason” had to do with them being able to extend Kawhi and then retain Jackson, Batum, and Ibaka.
Nobody in the media is saying this and you know I’ve never been one to blindly wear the green colored glasses but I feel that from moving on from a stale GM and a stale Head Coach to start, then to add quality veteran rotation players who both improved roster balance while replacing the youngs minutes…….that we had as good of an offseason as any team in the league!Yeah, even though we all thought Kawhi was heading back it still is the biggest signing of the offseason impact-wise.
The Houston rating---feels like a massive bet on their picks. I do agree they have pivoted pretty well post-Harden, but I'm not sure this offseason is all that unique.
Yea that's a fair point. That crew makes the Clips a top 5 contender for the next 3-4 seasons.I can’t speak for others but I’d have to assume 98% of the “Clippers killed it in the offseason” had to do with them being able to extend Kawhi and then retain Jackson, Batum, and Ibaka.
I feel similarly. Evaluation of the Celtics offseason probably comes down to how one feels about "Jayson Tatum, superstar" and "Jaylen Brown, awesome sidekick." If you're bullish on those two, this was a really, really good off-season, because the team will win a lot of games and be set up for an "All the Picks" deal to gfin.Nobody in the media is saying this and you know I’ve never been one to blindly wear the green colored glasses but I feel that from moving on from a stale GM and a stale Head Coach to start, then to add quality veteran rotation players who both improved roster balance while replacing the youngs minutes…….that we had as good of an offseason as any team in the league!
It also depends on how you feel about Kemba and his knee. I think many of us think that getting rid of Kemba for more complimentary players is a net positive. We'll see if that is true.I feel similarly. Evaluation of the Celtics offseason probably comes down to how one feels about "Jayson Tatum, superstar" and "Jaylen Brown, awesome sidekick."
Ah, I was just assuming that tbh. It's hard for me to see how that won't be the case unless the complimentary players completely shit the bed.It also depends on how you feel about Kemba and his knee. I think many of us think that getting rid of Kemba for more complimentary players is a net positive. We'll see if that is true.
Does anyone consider Schroder to be an all-round downgrade -- factoring in offense, defense, and availability -- from Kemba in 2021-2022?Ah, I was just assuming that tbh. It's hard for me to see how that won't be the case unless the complimentary players completely shit the bed.
It's curious. I wonder if Jonas will shoot the 3 more in NO. He's a decent FT shooter (.780 career) and is a career .358 3 point shooter (98/274). For his career from 10-16, he's at .423 and from 16-3 he's at .420.Curious about the Grizzlies now that the dust has settled...
Started with:
#17, #51, Valanciunas, Grayson Allen, '22 2nd
Ended up with:
Ziaire (#10 pick), Santi Aldama (#30 pick), SAdams, Sam Merrill, '24 2nd, Oturu, Juancho, Culver
Meh. It's not as exciting as I had hoped, but seems ~fine.
I can’t believe Monta Ellis is only 35.
No idea. It makes no sense.What's with the latest obsession with getting Marvin Bagley on the Celtics?
I apologize for thinking your dust had settled Grizzlies...Curious about the Grizzlies now that the dust has settled...
Started with:
#17, #51, Valanciunas, Grayson Allen, '22 2nd
Ended up with:
Ziaire (#10 pick), Santi Aldama (#30 pick), SAdams, Sam Merrill, '24 2nd, Oturu,Juancho, Culver, Dunn, Edwards
Meh. It's not as exciting as I had hoped, but seems ~fine.
Sac/Phila can probably find some other team to gamble on Bagz for a protected 1st, but wouldn't expect it to be Boston. Their 1sts will be packaged together for their 3rdWhat's with the latest obsession with getting Marvin Bagley on the Celtics?
What about OKC and one of their lesser future 1st’s?I think a team would be kinda crazy to give up any asset for the right to pay Bagley $11.3m for 1 year followed by... having his RFA rights?
I mean maybe a team like the Grizzlies who are in the asset churning business could give a 2nd or something, but that's an underwater contract with no upside.
OKC has to miss the playoffs for 1 more year so they don't give their 1st to the Hawks, so I guess Bagley could be helpful for that, but he doesn't really do anything to promote winning, & there's no reason to think he will in the future, so I'm not sure why they'd want to give up any of their admittedly excessive assets for the privilege.What about OKC and one of their lesser future 1st’s?
Jordan is now likely heading to the LakersIt's like a bizarro All Star game draft between Team LeBron and Team Durant.
yep, pretty much what OKC and their dozen 1sts are built forWhat about OKC and one of their lesser future 1st’s?
From 2012.It's like a bizarro All Star game draft between Team LeBron and Team Durant.
That's like the opposite of what OKC is building for & why they're collecting 1st round picks.yep, pretty much what OKC and their dozen 1sts are built for
clearly, Bagley has been atrocious for the 2nd pick but 14.5pts/7.5 rebs from a 21yr old is probably worth rolling the dice on if your OKC. What do they have to lose besides minutes going to Muscala/Favors
I guess it comes down to how you felt about Orlando gambling on Markelle, who was much more broken. He fetched a 2nd and protected 1st.That's like the opposite of what OKC is building for & why they're collecting 1st round picks.
Empty points & rebounds is why MBIII got overdrafted to begin with.
Gambling on Fultz was ~ok because he had outs to becoming a good NBA player if he got over his mental stuff & fixed his mechanics so there was an upside play.I guess it comes down to how you felt about Orlando gambling on Markelle, who was much more broken. He fetched a 2nd and protected 1st.
Not sure what you thought about TL last summer, but the same folks that wrote TL's OBIT seem to be at it again.
Unless Sac adds Simmons, it's all for naught anyway. The Kings view him as a starter and probably have a higher opinion than us. Like I said before I think he's been atrocious so far, but writing off a 21yr old this early seems premature. Giving away fat tails is never a good strategy, especially for teams that live in purgatory or are in full rebuild.Gambling on Fultz was ~ok because he had outs to becoming a good NBA player if he got over his mental stuff & fixed his mechanics so there was an upside play.
Of course the 76ers got the better player on the much cheaper contract as a result (Maxey), but I can understand shooting your shot on that upside. Fultz was the consensus #1 pick for a reason. Also, the Magic acquired 2 seasons, not 1.
Bagley is what he is at this point. He was a bad 2nd pick & he's exactly the player he was in college 3 years later. There's no magical upside. He's just an obsolete player type who doesn't really understand basketball or have any discernible work ethic.
Like his best case scenario is playing enough to be a 20/9 guy who becomes a non-disastrous shooter but still doesn't pass, defend, or think the game well, & still will be antithetical to winning basketball.
Do they? They play him like 26 minutes a game. & it's not like they have a surfeit of frontcourt talent.Unless Sac adds Simmons, it's all for naught anyway. The Kings view him as a starter and probably have a higher opinion than us. Like I said before I think he's been atrocious so far, but writing off a 21yr old this early seems premature. Giving away fat tails is never a good strategy, especially for teams that live in purgatory or are in full rebuild.
Why? None of those guys are particularly good anymore.The league needs to overhaul the buyout system. It’s 2/3 of the Lakers roster.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32141027/sources-deandre-jordan-intends-sign-los-angeles-lakers-completion-buyout
The closest I can think of was the ‘86 Celtics with 7 All-Stars (not All-NBA).The Lakers are going to have 8 former All-NBA guys, is that a record? I feel like it has to be.
Looks like some of the 60s Celtics teams had at least 5 all nba guys at once. I'm not sure if it's easier now because old guys that used to be good join teams as ring chasers or back then because there were fewer teams so you'd naturally have more per team and the winning teams racked up a ton from guys just for being winning teams.The closest I can think of was the ‘86 Celtics with 7 All-Stars (not All-NBA).