All indications are that the Pats want to sign Thuney to a long-term deal, which should drop his 2020 salary cap hit to some extent.
Right, if Stidham is good they will still have him very cheap for 2 more years after 2020, which will allow them to actually spend on quality free agents and potentially contendBut they've been a regular destination for veterans who 'get it,'--guys willing to take less for a shot at a ring, such as Chris Long. I know that Brady's departure lessens the attractiveness of NE for this already small pool of FA's, so I suppose I should have instead asked how much weight does the chance of playing for the coaching GOAT carry, especially knowing how demanding and challenging he is? And let's assume for the moment that Stidham (or whoever the next QB is) is competent to good.
They still have Belichick who will be a draw for vets. They don't have a lot of space to work with for this year but if they win 10/11 games again this season with Stidham or whoever then they'll be just as big a draw as they ever were.But they've been a regular destination for veterans who 'get it,'--guys willing to take less for a shot at a ring, such as Chris Long. I know that Brady's departure lessens the attractiveness of NE for this already small pool of FA's, so I suppose I should have instead asked how much weight does the chance of playing for the coaching GOAT carry, especially knowing how demanding and challenging he is? And let's assume for the moment that Stidham (or whoever the next QB is) is competent to good.
Guess we should wait to see the price, but given Chung’s injury history I don’t love losing safety depth...
Also frees up $3.5M against the 2020 cap.Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
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Source: The #Lions traded for #Patriots DB Duron Harmon.
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This is a flip of late-round picks.
Except that franchising Thuney seems to run counter to that thinkingDoes a smart team trade many expiring contracts of players who have 1-2 years left now for future draft assets expecting there to be no NFL this fall and take the one year hit if there is actually a season? Seems to be if we are taking a step back that we make a big step back and push the chips to the future with this COVID craziness.
If the Pats do this, they should just fire sale the whole roster and punt 2020. Because trading the best player on your team signals that you are completely giving up.I know he just won DPOY, but would it be worth seeing what the Pats could get for Stephon Gilmore? He is only signed through 2021, becoming an UFA in 2022 at the age of 31.
I would prefer the Pats keep him because he is amazing and on a great deal, but should they at least see what is available as I am not sure the Pats are SB bound during the remainder of his contract.
Edit - if they don't want to trade him, they should definitely try to extend him to lower the cap hit for this year and next.
Yea....couldn't imagine a local team doing that.If the Pats do this, they should just fire sale the whole roster and punt 2020. Because trading the best player on your team signals that you are completely giving up.
I get that, but I was just asking the question because I am not sure how competitive the Pats will be next year.If the Pats do this, they should just fire sale the whole roster and punt 2020. Because trading the best player on your team signals that you are completely giving up.
Touche. But relatively speaking, Gilmore>>>>Betts in terms of what each player means to their roster for the coming season. If you take Gilly off the Pats defense, the whole scheme collapses. You can somewhat replace Mookie's production. Not the case with Gilmore.Yea....couldn't imagine a local team doing that.
I wouldn't characterize this as a wow move...they probably should have done it last year...I agree that Harmon is a solid player, but they need to get younger on defense, and a guy like Harmon is replaceableWow. Harmon has been a really solid player for the Pats. The $3.5 million might come in handy, but will they be able to get a player as good as Harmon with it? I dunno.
Yes, should have been done last year.I wouldn't characterize this as a wow move...they probably should have done it last year...I agree that Harmon is a solid player, but they need to get younger on defense, and a guy like Harmon is replaceable
I wonder if Brady's decision impacted his at all.Karras had a two-year offer from Pats, but wanted to start and reenter market next offseason.
View: https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1240330153814888449
More likely Andrews' health. At least I hope soI wonder if Brady's decision impacted his at all.
Yup. A Wynn/Thuney/Andrews/Mason/Cannon OL next year would be such a sight for sore eyes. This combined with the secondary would give some reason for hope next year.More likely Andrews' health. At least I hope so
On September 11, 2016, Allen entered a game against the Cleveland Browns on offense, lining up as the team's fullback.
In that respect, he's a replacement for this guy:Allen has also lined up at fullback. Once.
Can he catch a pass in the flat?Allen has also lined up at fullback. Once.
Not to mention the others. Have we heard anything definitive about Andrews?Let’s not get too excited about Wynn until he actually manages to stay on the field.
Isn't there a counter-argument that this is indicative of a team that tries to win with a big middle class of players rather than the stars and scrubs method?
I don't think it is a sign of bad management, and I'm not sure Lazar was necessarily implying that it was. it's been a conscious strategy for some time. At the same time, they just lost their veteran QB and have to take a good cap hit from him, and the rest of the team is aging, so they need to move some of those players to clear room and get younger.Isn't there a counter-argument that this is indicative of a team that tries to win with a big middle class of players rather than the stars and scrubs method?
I don't disagree that they might need to get out from under some of those contracts but is it really, on its face a sign of bad management?
Wow, that really surprises me. With the loss of a couple key players I was starting to think they might be in full rebuild mode. Now I am starting to believe it.
Ebner was an expendable player. I think he made close to 2 million last year. With Slater and Justin Bethel you don't need to pay Ebner anymore and can just draft someone for half the cost.Wow, that really surprises me. With the loss of a couple key players I was starting to think they might be in full rebuild mode. Now I am starting to believe it.