1. 5-iron* that I carry ~165ish. It is generally my 175 yard club.An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
1. 5-iron, 23.5 degrees. I carry it around 180-185. I’ve got a pair of hybrids after that.An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
1) 4 iron, carry 195-200An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
Yeah the only requirement was getting a few guys to go so it wasn’t him coming out for just 1 person. That was easy to manage.That’s awesome. You’re golden. The OEM reps are huge gear-heads. They’re probably going to slam you more information than you can process. I love chatting them up on demo days.
1. 5 iron. 190 if I flush it. Usually 180-185 though.An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
1. 4i - carry 200-210An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
Exactly this except I recently ditched my 5 wood to fit the 54, and also carry a 621. 5-iron, 23.5 degrees. I carry it around 180-185. I’ve got a pair of hybrids after that.
2. 49 degrees.
3. Only two: 54 and 58.
Yeah, I had similar thoughts. I wish the original question included a handicap ask. I've played with a couple people in the thread and I'm a pretty big hitter for my age and I honestly can't believe how many people claim they hit their 4 iron 210+. I live in Denver, so I do, but that carry means your driver clubhead speed should be in the 120s at sea level yardages. I can vouch for one guy here that he may even be underselling himself, but seriously, if you can hit a 220+ iron at sea level I feel like there should be a lot more stories about people shooting 67 than there are. I don't mean to imply people are lying, just that the flushed 4 iron you hit down hill with the wind isn't how far you usually hit a 4 iron.I have a 2-iron, which I carry about 195-200 (when I hit it well). I'm not a long hitter, but some of the distances you guys are quoting...are you sure you hit your irons that far? Or are those your best-case projections with a hint of wind behind you? (Or maybe some of you should focus less on distance and more on accuracy, at least where your irons are concerned?)
Just like everyone on SOSH is above average looking and over 6’ tall everyone here hits their irons a mile.I have a 2-iron, which I carry about 195-200 (when I hit it well). I'm not a long hitter, but some of the distances you guys are quoting...are you sure you hit your irons that far? Or are those your best-case projections with a hint of wind behind you? (Or maybe some of you should focus less on distance and more on accuracy, at least where your irons are concerned?)
I doubt I’m included in this (I don’t consider a 180 5 iron super long) but I can’t vouch for some of the folks here. I know FL4WL3SS, PSK, and Zomp can move it good. I have friends at home who hit their 2 and and 3 ironsas far as my driver (225-230ish) on a regular basis. And I have one friend who is easily the longest hitter I’ve ever seen (he’s a 1). He hits his 3 iron 250 easy. It’s crazy.I have a 2-iron, which I carry about 195-200 (when I hit it well). I'm not a long hitter, but some of the distances you guys are quoting...are you sure you hit your irons that far? Or are those your best-case projections with a hint of wind behind you? (Or maybe some of you should focus less on distance and more on accuracy, at least where your irons are concerned?)
I think this is the key point right here - I suspect that if most golfers calculated their distances, figured out what club they (think they) hit that distance and then take one more and swing just a little easier, their scores would probably improve. Or maybe not even swing a little easier: it's usually OK to finish 5 yards past the flagstick if you happen to put a good solid swing on the ball and catch it sweetly. I'm pretty sure that if you plotted the finish of every normal approach shot the average golfer hits into the green, a good 80-90% of them would be short of pin high.Then I usually take extra club.
It may be more reflective of club category and lofts. My irons are Taylormade Speedblades from a few years ago - a game improvement iron set with strong lofts. The 4i is 20*. I‘m currently a 16 handicap, fwiw. I would guess that some of our better players are using blades or players irons with weaker lofts and less “distance tech”I have a 2-iron, which I carry about 195-200 (when I hit it well). I'm not a long hitter, but some of the distances you guys are quoting...are you sure you hit your irons that far? Or are those your best-case projections with a hint of wind behind you? (Or maybe some of you should focus less on distance and more on accuracy, at least where your irons are concerned?)
Iron 5, hit it about175/180An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
I'm not sure about that. Even the other day when my buddy went and got fitted (I posted about it upthread) they stayed away from blades. The club fitter told us that 75% of Titleist players on tour are playing the T100's, 15% are playing the new CB's, and only 10% are playing the MB's. My buddy was very excited to try the MB (and to be fair, they are extremely sexy) but the fitter put a stop to that thought right away. Why punish mishits when the payoff of a blade isn't that great anymore thanks to modern technology?. I would guess that some of our better players are using blades or players irons with weaker lofts and less “distance tech”
Have you thought about trying to dial back your distances to increase your accuracy - take something off of every club, including your driver?I 100% fit into the category of hit the ball very far but wild.
I’m sure you’re right and didn’t mean to imply that good players are all playing MB-style blades, but the T100 and other “players irons” all have much weaker lofts compared to GI sets that keep getting stronger lofts. (e.g. the T100 4 iron is 24*, T200 is 21*, and the T300 is 20*).I'm not sure about that. Even the other day when my buddy went and got fitted (I posted about it upthread) they stayed away from blades. The club fitter told us that 75% of Titleist players on tour are playing the T100's, 15% are playing the new CB's, and only 10% are playing the MB's. My buddy was very excited to try the MB (and to be fair, they are extremely sexy) but the fitter put a stop to that thought right away. Why punish mishits when the payoff of a blade isn't that great anymore thanks to modern technology?
I totally agree with this. I'm a 2 and play the MP-18 MMC 5-P and the Fli-Hi 4 iron. Technology is just too good right now to punish yourself with blades unless you really need to move the ball or control the trajectory a lot. You can get clubs that look like blades over the top but perform like game-improvement clubs on contact and still let you move the ball a bit when needed.I'm not sure about that. Even the other day when my buddy went and got fitted (I posted about it upthread) they stayed away from blades. The club fitter told us that 75% of Titleist players on tour are playing the T100's, 15% are playing the new CB's, and only 10% are playing the MB's. My buddy was very excited to try the MB (and to be fair, they are extremely sexy) but the fitter put a stop to that thought right away. Why punish mishits when the payoff of a blade isn't that great anymore thanks to modern technology?
My 225 3 iron is a Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli Hi. Its a utility iron but honestly looking down on it you could never tell. I love it.
My son just got the MIzuno MP-20 HMBs, which are muscle back by looks but hollow with some tungsten inserts inside the muscle cavity, so they are still perimeter weighted to a degree (just not on top). So kind of a tweeter between both worlds. I hit them a little - no chance in Hades I’d ever get those for myself.I'm not sure about that. Even the other day when my buddy went and got fitted (I posted about it upthread) they stayed away from blades. The club fitter told us that 75% of Titleist players on tour are playing the T100's, 15% are playing the new CB's, and only 10% are playing the MB's. My buddy was very excited to try the MB (and to be fair, they are extremely sexy) but the fitter put a stop to that thought right away. Why punish mishits when the payoff of a blade isn't that great anymore thanks to modern technology?
My 225 3 iron is a Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli Hi. Its a utility iron but honestly looking down on it you could never tell. I love it.
This is exactly why I hate discussing my yardages with people.I have a 2-iron, which I carry about 195-200 (when I hit it well). I'm not a long hitter, but some of the distances you guys are quoting...are you sure you hit your irons that far? Or are those your best-case projections with a hint of wind behind you? (Or maybe some of you should focus less on distance and more on accuracy, at least where your irons are concerned?)
When are you in Seattle again?Yeah, I had similar thoughts. I wish the original question included a handicap ask. I've played with a couple people in the thread and I'm a pretty big hitter for my age and I honestly can't believe how many people claim they hit their 4 iron 210+. I live in Denver, so I do, but that carry means your driver clubhead speed should be in the 120s at sea level yardages. I can vouch for one guy here that he may even be underselling himself, but seriously, if you can hit a 220+ iron at sea level I feel like there should be a lot more stories about people shooting 67 than there are. I don't mean to imply people are lying, just that the flushed 4 iron you hit down hill with the wind isn't how far you usually hit a 4 iron.
Sometime this fall. I'm going to be working on something that will bring me out there a lot. I need another swing at your track when not 12 out of 10 hungover.When are you in Seattle again?
To be fair to CP, you're an anomaly with your yardages so people probably don't believe you. But most people look at their most pure strike ever and think it's their carry distance. My buddy (that you played with) plays like 3 days a week now and has improved from a 20+ handicap to a 13 in one year and still constantly overestimates his distances to his own detriment.This is exactly why I hate discussing my yardages with people.
sure I have thought about it. I was down to a 9ish handicap last year when I was playing a lot and then had my first son in May. I played maybe once every 2 weeks since.Have you thought about trying to dial back your distances to increase your accuracy - take something off of every club, including your driver?
Yep, tour pros have been shifting toward forgiveness for a while. IIRC there is still a sizable minority rocking full sets of blades but others are embracing cavity backs or mixed sets with some help at least in the long iron part of their bag. LPGA, with around 95-100 mph swing speed, is dominated by CB's and tech-filled irons. You'll see a lot of CB's and game improvement irons on the senior tour too.I'm not sure about that. Even the other day when my buddy went and got fitted (I posted about it upthread) they stayed away from blades. The club fitter told us that 75% of Titleist players on tour are playing the T100's, 15% are playing the new CB's, and only 10% are playing the MB's. My buddy was very excited to try the MB (and to be fair, they are extremely sexy) but the fitter put a stop to that thought right away. Why punish mishits when the payoff of a blade isn't that great anymore thanks to modern technology?
My 225 3 iron is a Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli Hi. Its a utility iron but honestly looking down on it you could never tell. I love it.
I'll be here, hit me up.Sometime this fall. I'm going to be working on something that will bring me out there a lot. I need another swing at your track when not 12 out of 10 hungover.
My assistant at work is a pretty decent golfer, the first time he ever played Stadium he shot a 65, this was pre-renovation. He never came close to replicating that round ever. I used to rent a place right on the course, it was pure hell during the WM event, people would park in resident parking all the time....wankers. We are heading over to Scotland is December, there is a new course opening in May called Called Dumbarnie Links, so I'm going to check it out. It's kind of work related so wife has approved a quick visit on the way up to the Highlands.Separately, got the chance to play TPC Scottsdale (Stadium) and Paiute (Wolf, Snow) over the course of a couple of days this past week. Went 79, 84, 76 (personal best) respectively, biggest thing for me by far has been ditching my old putter for a two-ball blade. On the front of Snow, I eagled each par 5 with 40’+ putts - complete flukes but just not something I remotely had in my bag before.
I can’t say enough good things about Paiute - the golfpalooza deal for $225 is unparalleled in my opinion. For Vegas, it’s the best value and experience going (caveat - haven’t played Cascata)
4 - 205An informal poll:
What’s the longest iron in your bag and how far do you hit it? (Carry.)
What loft is the shortest iron, (part of your iron set,) before wedges?
How many wedges (not an integral part of your iron set) do you carry?
I love those clubsMy son just got the MIzuno MP-20 HMBs, which are muscle back by looks but hollow with some tungsten inserts inside the muscle cavity, so they are still perimeter weighted to a degree (just not on top). So kind of a tweeter between both worlds. I hit them a little - no chance in Hades I’d ever get those for myself.
NAC. Haven't had a hangover above a 4/10 in 6 yearsSometime this fall. I'm going to be working on something that will bring me out there a lot. I need another swing at your track when not 12 out of 10 hungover.
I never travel without it but talk to me in 15 more years when you're my age .4 - 205
PW - 45-46
3 - 50, 54, 58
I love those clubs
NAC. Haven't had a hangover above a 4/10 in 6 years
It's not that I didn't believe him, or that I didn't believe anyone specifically in this thread. It's really more that I didn't like the premise of the question that was originally asked - or at least, the way it was phrased. I actually agree with @FL4WL3SS that it's not terribly useful to discuss yardages: too many people don't actually know their average distance (mistaking it with their perfect strike distance) and/or focus more on hitting their irons as hard as possible to maximize distance rather than finding a way to repeat the same distance with each iron every time, which is how you hit more approach shots close to the hole. Maximizing your distance is important with your driver, and with your fairway woods and hybrids to the extent that they bring longer targets potentially within reach; otherwise, as soon as you talk about and start comparing numbers, the real danger is that you start trying to keep up with the Joneses and hit your irons longer, which really is the last thing most golfers need to be thinking about.To be fair to CP, you're an anomaly with your yardages so people probably don't believe you. But most people look at their most pure strike ever and think it's their carry distance. My buddy (that you played with) plays like 3 days a week now and has improved from a 20+ handicap to a 13 in one year and still constantly overestimates his distances to his own detriment.
I cant believe we're talking about the Ryder Cup already. Just listened to a recent NLU podcast on the Ryder Cup that started with a cool Payne Stewart/Tiger story.Also anyone hit for Ryder Cup tickets last week? Got the email that I won the lottery and will be able to purchase next week.
Plan is to go out on Thursday -
Thursday - Play the U (UW home course - I love it)
Friday - Ryder Cup/Sand Valley
Saturday - hoping for a badgers home game
Sunday - Ryder Cup/Sand Valley
Will do one of either Friday/Sunday at Sand Valley or at the Ryder Cup
I will be stationed in Madison with my cousin so 2 hour drive but should be a great long weekend.
Oh good another reason to hate aging? Fwiw I take roughly 1 capsule per drink. I've always had good results when I take a lot and I've seen a few articles about how good it is for you -- drinking or not. I probably have 6-7 bottles around. I keep it on me at almost all times.I never travel without it but talk to me in 15 more years when you're my age .
Do you want to live under par or actually sniff being under par?I mean just because you swing like a baby doesn’t mean we have to.
Come on. For some people an easy swing is right and for some a hard swing is right. I swing hard and have been between 0-4 for a lot of years and shoot under par frequently.Do you want to live under par or actually sniff being under par?
Is that what you shoot? To be honest I can never get to the end of your 12,000 word posts to find outDo you want to live under par or actually sniff being under par?
@ConigliarosPotential doesn’t live under par. He lives in the fairway bunker on the 14th hole at Dunbar.Is that what you shoot? To be honest I can never get to the end of your 12,000 word posts to find out
Obviously I'm not talking about swing tempo in absolute terms - I'm talking about whether you're always trying to nail the ball and get 100% distance out of every iron swing, as opposed to knowing how to swing within yourself and understand how it works best for you to take something off of your approaches. (If you're good enough to be under a 4 handicap, you probably know what I'm talking about anyway.)Come on. For some people an easy swing is right and for some a hard swing is right. I swing hard and have been between 0-4 for a lot of years and shoot under par frequently.
Heh. My handicap has been between 3-5 for years and I have broken par a few times in competitions...I'm hardly an advert for always practicing what I preach, but in part my recent posts have been an attempt to remind myself of these important truths!Is that what you shoot? To be honest I can never get to the end of your 12,000 word posts to find out
Actually, I haven't hit a tee shot into that bunker for months - I even birdied the 14th my last time out! It'll never last, of course...@ConigliarosPotential doesn’t live under par. He lives in the fairway bunker on the 14th hole at Dunbar.