It will not be me. Fool me three times ain't happening.All that video does is assure someone of taking him in the first two rounds of our league
The rest of the field is much longer than in 2002? I think the field is deeper/better overall too but I’m not sure I can’t back that up. Prime Tiger would still be #1 today but I’m not sure he wins quite as much.I’m guessing that he’s gonna play the Hero again this year and then go from there. Who knows how long this return attempt lasts.
Also, I’d like to know why the stinger ever went away. That thing was money for him.
This is an interesting exercise. I grabbed some stats from Tiger's most recent prolific year in 2005 and compared it to some modern players. My first thought was to look at Spieth's breakout in 2015. By results they are quite close. As we know though Spieth is not as long off the tee, but much more accurate. Tiger was surprisingly bad around the greens but was better basically everywhere else.The rest of the field is much longer than in 2002? I think the field is deeper/better overall too but I’m not sure I can’t back that up. Prime Tiger would still be #1 today but I’m not sure he wins quite as much.
Name | Year | Wins | 2nd | 2rd | Top 10 | Top 25 | Made Cuts | Cuts | SG Off Tee | SG Aproach | SG Around Green | SG Putting | SG Tee to Green | SG Total | Driving Dist. | Driving Acc. | GIR % |
Jordan Spieth | 2015 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 15 | 19 | 21 | 4 | 0.494 | 0.618 | 0.471 | 0.571 | 1.583 | 2.154 | 291.8 | 62.91 | 67.87 |
Tiger Woods | 2005 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 2 | 0.896 | 0.86 | -0.015 | 0.659 | 1.742 | 2.401 | 316.1 | 54.58 | 69.89 |
Justin Thomas | 2017 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 12 | 14 | 19 | 6 | 0.398 | 0.68 | 0.252 | 0.289 | 1.33 | 1.618 | 309.7 | 55.05 | 67.16 |
That Tiger is gone, man. His mental edge weakened in 2009 when he lost to YE Yang in the PGA Championship and was obliterated by his scandal and subsequent injuries. If he can play golf for a month without getting hurt, it would be a huge win for him. The bar is pretty low.I think tiger still dominates. Yes there's a lot of talent now, but Tiger was the most mentally tough golfer that ever existed. You've never seen him fold like Spieth, Rory, DJ, et al.
Tiger in his prime still dominates in today's environment. People forget how good Duval was and I don't see any of the existing crop duplicating Mickelson's career. Ernie, VJ and even guys like Monty.
No shit, I was talking about if the old Tiger would be as dominant in today's game and the answer is yes.That Tiger is gone, man. His mental edge weakened in 2009 when he lost to YE Yang in the PGA Championship and was obliterated by his scandal and subsequent injuries. If he can play golf for a month without getting hurt, it would be a huge win for him. The bar is pretty low.
Fwiw, the PGA implemented their drug testing policy in July 2008. Based on his recent DUI, we know he has been taking Xanax which is used to treat anxiety and panic disorders, THC and Ambien. It's possible that the mental toughness he exhibited in his prime was due to better living through chemicals and the drug testing policy could have also contributed to his decline, although I think the injuries are the greatest factor.That Tiger is gone, man. His mental edge weakened in 2009 when he lost to YE Yang in the PGA Championship and was obliterated by his scandal and subsequent injuries. If he can play golf for a month without getting hurt, it would be a huge win for him. The bar is pretty low.
They can be legally prescribed but still be not permissible unless an exemption from the PGA is obtained. Also, any prescribed med can't give you any advantage. The specific wording from the 2015 manual is quoted below.Aside from the THC, the others were all legally prescribed, no?
I never heard of Tiger getting a TUE but that doesn't mean one wasn't issued. Also, it should be noted that I never heard of Tiger failing a drug test (although we all know how easy it would be to cheat) so there's that.THERAPEUTIC USE EXEMPTIONS (“TUEs”)
Players may obtain a TUE for the use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method where:
(1) The player would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or
Prohibited Method were to be withheld in the course of treating an acute or chronic medical
condition (the use of any Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method to increase “low-normal”
levels of any Endogenous hormone is not considered an acceptable therapeutic intervention);
and
(2) The therapeutic use of the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method would produce no
additional enhancement of performance other than that which might be anticipated by a return
to a state of normal health following the treatment of a legitimate medical condition; and
(3) There is no reasonable therapeutic alternative to the use of the otherwise Prohibited Substance
or Prohibited Method; and
(4) The necessity for the use of the otherwise Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is not
a consequence, wholly or in part, of a prior non-therapeutic use of any substance on the PGA
TOUR Prohibited List.
A TUE can only be granted if all four criteria are fulfilled.
If Casey Martin can be exempted to ride a cart, a prescription medication likely would be within the realm of possible, I would think.They can be legally prescribed but still be not permissible unless an exemption from the PGA is obtained.
Casey Martin was granted an exemption because the Supreme Court said it would violate the ADA not to do so. Since marijuana/THC cannot be "legally prescribed" under federal law, I don't think it's likely that acourt would say not allowing players to violate federal law is a violation of federal law.If Casey Martin can be exempted to ride a cart, a prescription medication likely would be within the realm of possible, I would think.
He needs above average length to win, but I disagree if you're saying he needs elite length to win again. Tiger has always been one of the best short game players (if not the best all time). If his touch around the greens is back, he'll win again and probably pretty quickly. I don't think length is any precondition to winning for him, he could go out tomorrow and probably win at a place like Harbor Town if he had the short game magic working.Faxon reports that Tiger outdrove DJ about half of the time in the quick round they played with Trump. I’m pretty shocked if that is true. I just can’t imagine he’s healthy enough to go at it like that, but if he did that’s a real good sign. He needs his length to have any chance to ever win again.
Harmon also taught him to reduce the speed of his swing to seventy-five to eighty-five percent of capacity, which gives him greater control. The only time he should attempt to reach one hundred percent, Harmon said, is when the situation requires that he take the risk to gain an additional thirty to forty yards.
I'm with you. But he can't be below average. I was remembering his last attempt at a comeback before this injury recovery. I saw a round before he had that flair up, not sure where he was playing, but he was in a group with DJ and another long hitter and it was clear on TV he wasn't anywhere near those guys off the tee. I remember thinking he's got no chance if he can't get his length back. And thinking about it, I agree with you, he doesn't need elite length, but I think he needs to be able to be out there in some similar spots because the amount of guys that hit it long now is greater than before. So he might be OK here and there depending on the course, but to have any consistency, he's going to need to be able to drive it. Mainly because on any given day, DJ, the Justins, Jordan, Rory, Jason Day, Rickie are going to be up there turning par 5's into 4's. He's got to be able to play the same course as those guys.He needs above average length to win, but I disagree if you're saying he needs elite length to win again. Tiger has always been one of the best short game players (if not the best all time). If his touch around the greens is back, he'll win again and probably pretty quickly. I don't think length is any precondition to winning for him, he could go out tomorrow and probably win at a place like Harbor Town if he had the short game magic working.
FTFY.Equipment hasa loteverything to do with that.
You don't sound a day over 45.FTFY.
Just using myself as an example, I was a very long hitter when I was in college back in the early 80s. I'm 55 now and have lost a grand total of about 10 yards off the tee.
No doubt. Tiger played a steel shaft driver years after other guys were bombing graphite. Equipment brought those guys up to him. But the big advantage he and Jack both had is they were substantially longer than anyone on tour when they were in their prime years. He was playing a different course than pretty much everyone, as was Jack. Now any number of guys in top 10 on Sunday aren’t giving away length to anyone, so its just a more even playing field. That is until DJ decides to take it over the lake in the playoff. Not many can do what he does when he wants to reach down and go get it.Equipment has a lot to do with that.
Brandel Chamblee was saying this on the ForePlay Podcast. He needs to eliminate the squat in his swing.Here's a better look from the same practice round. The swing looks very very balanced for the first time in years. He tends to start to go after it harder during tournament rounds, so we'll see if it still looks the same by Sunday, but really liking this swing.
First thing I noticed is the squat on the downswing is way less pronounced and almost gone. That might be the best thing that ever happened to him.