2017 Gronk: Mojo Gronk

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theapportioner said:
 
Well, I guess he and Tiger Woods. But they are kind of the exceptions that prove the rule.
 
I don't think you understand what this means.
 
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Nobody does.  It's a meaningless statement that is, almost by definition, never true.  People say it so they can feel sophisticated or witty or something, despite it making zero logical sense.  Same reason people still say "I could care less".
 
edit: sorry, needs more Gronk.  Here's an article about how he went and played dodgeball at a Florida hockey rink.
 

 
The article itself is well worth a read.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
Am i the only one who doesn't want to see him doing this shit?
 
That was entirely my reaction. I had a "He did *what*? Playing *BEACH FOOTBALL??!???*" moment.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
Am i the only one who doesn't want to see him doing this shit?
 
The Patriots are a billion-dollar organization and their 10th-most (being conservative) important employee is putting himself at risk needlessly.  I'd think the team would've already told him to be careful after he and Edelman spent the parade trying to fall off the duck boats, but here we are.  I understand that there is some pretty significant hypocrisy in a football team that expects their guys to take an outrageous amount of physical abuse during the season to then demand that they not to anything even mildly physically risky in the off-season, but that's why they're paid the big bucks.
 

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BoneForYourJar said:
Does anyone ever think, maybe ... Gronk's trying a little too hard to be "Gronk"?


*scurries away*
 
I think he's:
 
A) having fun; 
B) building the "Gronk" brand for future endorsements.
 

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BoneForYourJar said:
Does anyone ever think, maybe ... Gronk's trying a little too hard to be "Gronk"?


*scurries away*
On the contrary. I think that now that he's won the Super Bowl and finally had an offseason in which he isn't rehabbing he can at last be himself for a while without worries. What you're seeing now is peak Gronk, after 3 seasons of having to put his head down for one reason or another at this time of the year.
 

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**Turd in the punchbowl time!**
 
At what point does his act wear thin? I’m not saying it’s anytime soon, because I’m enjoying the ride on The Gronk Express. But at some point, this act has to become grating. Is this still enjoyable when he’s 30? 35? If Brady retired tomorrow and the team went through 3 straight losing seasons, would it still be funny? If he suffers a steep decline after another major injury, are we still laughing at this shtick in year 2 and 3 of “Gronk Lite”?
 
I don’t think personalities like this age gracefully. Eventually, every one of them goes the Jeremy Shockey route, and people become more annoyed than amused. I’m not looking forward to it, because it usually coincides with a decrease in production or wins. At what point does funny Gronk become annoying Gronk?
 

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Kenny F'ing Powers said:
**Turd in the punchbowl time!**
 
At what point does his act wear thin? Im not saying its anytime soon, because Im enjoying the ride on The Gronk Express. But at some point, this act has to become grating. Is this still enjoyable when hes 30? 35? If Brady retired tomorrow and the team went through 3 straight losing seasons, would it still be funny? If he suffers a steep decline after another major injury, are we still laughing at this shtick in year 2 and 3 of Gronk Lite?
 
I dont think personalities like this age gracefully. Eventually, every one of them goes the Jeremy Shockey route, and people become more annoyed than amused. Im not looking forward to it, because it usually coincides with a decrease in production or wins. At what point does funny Gronk become annoying Gronk?
I still love Randy Moss but I was a little peeved by how he acted right before the Patriots traded him. That's about the worst I can imagine for Gronk. A mild and temporary sense of disappointment followed by a full return to unconditional love.
 

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Kenny F'ing Powers said:
**Turd in the punchbowl time!**
 
At what point does his act wear thin? I’m not saying it’s anytime soon, because I’m enjoying the ride on The Gronk Express. But at some point, this act has to become grating. Is this still enjoyable when he’s 30? 35? If Brady retired tomorrow and the team went through 3 straight losing seasons, would it still be funny? If he suffers a steep decline after another major injury, are we still laughing at this shtick in year 2 and 3 of “Gronk Lite”?
 
I don’t think personalities like this age gracefully. Eventually, every one of them goes the Jeremy Shockey route, and people become more annoyed than amused. I’m not looking forward to it, because it usually coincides with a decrease in production or wins. At what point does funny Gronk become annoying Gronk?
 
He's 25, if he acts like a douche fratboy for the next 5 years and starts to decline, then he'll still be one of the best TE in history barring injury. He's a 25 year old, with a giant contract, hasn't murdered anyone and is generally harmless. It's not like he's at strip clubs shooting people (AH), getting other people shot (PacMan), shooting himself in the leg (Plaxico), wearing a white suit during a murder (Mentor to coaches with anger management on the Spike Network) etc.
 
He's a douchey frat boy, but he's our douchey frat boy. I don't really care for his off the field antics, but in terms of the problems with NFL, Gronk isn't even in the room. 
 
There seems to be zero translation to his on the field performance, which is what matters.
 

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Really: as long as he stays healthy and doesn't break the law, who gives a fuck?
 

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Kenny F'ing Powers said:
**Turd in the punchbowl time!**
 
At what point does his act wear thin? I’m not saying it’s anytime soon, because I’m enjoying the ride on The Gronk Express. But at some point, this act has to become grating. Is this still enjoyable when he’s 30? 35? If Brady retired tomorrow and the team went through 3 straight losing seasons, would it still be funny? If he suffers a steep decline after another major injury, are we still laughing at this shtick in year 2 and 3 of “Gronk Lite”?
 
I don’t think personalities like this age gracefully. Eventually, every one of them goes the Jeremy Shockey route, and people become more annoyed than amused. I’m not looking forward to it, because it usually coincides with a decrease in production or wins. At what point does funny Gronk become annoying Gronk?
 
Here's the closest thing to Gronk I can imagine from years ago. Chuck Bednarik.  (Art Donovan also comes to mind, but I have less personal knowledge of him.)
 
Bednarik - or "Concrete Charlie" as he was/is known in Philly - was a legendary tough guy, and like Gronk, he seemed to live every day his life in the spirit of his "don't give a fuck about anyone or anything" off-field persona. 
 
He could also be rather demonstrative with his emotions on the field.  Exhibit A:  Here's a picture of him after he effectively ended the career of Frank Gifford in November of 1960:
 

 
 
He retired after the 1962 season and has spent the rest of his life making a living off being Chuck Bednarik.
 
He's had a tough time in recent years, because he had difficulty understanding the modern NFL player and the "bitter old man" portion of his personality began to show through.  But even taking this into account, the guy has been one of the dominating characters in the Philly landscape for more than 60 years.
 
I'd say Gronk has a lot of time left before he begins to wear thin...
 

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How about John Matuszak? He died well before his act could run thin, but he definitely lived it up on and off the field.
 

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Average Reds said:
 
Here's the closest thing to Gronk I can imagine from years ago. Chuck Bednarik.  (Art Donovan also comes to mind, but I have less personal knowledge of him.)
 
Bednarik - or "Concrete Charlie" as he was/is known in Philly - was a legendary tough guy, and like Gronk, he seemed to live every day his life in the spirit of his "don't give a fuck about anyone or anything" off-field persona. 
 
He could also be rather demonstrative with his emotions on the field.  Exhibit A:  Here's a picture of him after he effectively ended the career of Frank Gifford in November of 1960:
 

 
 
He retired after the 1962 season and has spent the rest of his life making a living off being Chuck Bednarik.
 
He's had a tough time in recent years, because he had difficulty understanding the modern NFL player and the "bitter old man" portion of his personality began to show through.  But even taking this into account, the guy has been one of the dominating characters in the Philly landscape for more than 60 years.
 
I'd say Gronk has a lot of time left before he begins to wear thin...
Never heard that Bednarik was a fun loving character who'd try anything for a laugh like Gronk though. Art Donovan was a great story teller who seemed to be able to find humor in all kinds of football scenarios. He was probably the best NFL story teller ever. 
 
Edit, the hit on Gifford doesn't look like one of the worst ever, but neither did the hit on Bledsoe, to me. Maybe the worst part with the Gifford hit was when he hit the ground and Bednarik drilled him some more.  
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EHius5Y88
 

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Al Zarilla said:
Never heard that Bednarik was a fun loving character who'd try anything for a laugh like Gronk though. Art Donovan was a great story teller who seemed to be able to find humor in all kinds of football scenarios. He was probably the best NFL story teller ever. 
 
 
That's a fair point about the specifics of the personalities. 
 
The point I was making was that Bednarik (who I never saw play) had this outlandish, outsized personality in Philly and it didn't wear thin for over 60 years.  I guess anything is possible, but if Gronk stays on the Pats and continues to give 100% on the field, I can't imagine he's going to wear thin with the public for a long, long time.
 

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Average Reds said:
 
That's a fair point about the specifics of the personalities. 
 
The point I was making was that Bednarik (who I never saw play) had this outlandish, outsized personality in Philly and it didn't wear thin for over 60 years.  I guess anything is possible, but if Gronk stays on the Pats and continues to give 100% on the field, I can't imagine he's going to wear thin with the public for a long, long time.
Yeah,  I guess Bednarik had the perfect background for an Eagles player: parents emigrate from Slovakia, settle in Bethlehem and work for Bethlehem Steel. He finds his way out of the mills via football, goes to Penn. and then the Eagles. After his career is over, he continues to live in Pa. He's considered the last of the full time two-way players (center and linebacker). 
 

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Devizier said:
How about John Matuszak? He died well before his act could run thin, but he definitely lived it up on and off the field.
 
Just to support my case:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMesUPtu5MQ
 
Obviously not an all-time great like Gronkowski, and quite a bit more sinister. But that was probably partly due to the times he lived in.
 
Also note the hilarious typo at the end of the video.
 

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Art Donovan used to be on Letterman quite a bit back when Letterman was on NBC (i.e., when he was funny).  Donovan was always a riot.  We would always try to watch because he was a BC guy and would make references to the school every now and then.  
 
Like Gronk, he really was a dominant player.  He was a legit superstar-a hall of famer, member of the all decade team for the 50s, member of the NFL "First 50 Years" all time team.    
 

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I love that TD from the KC game.  He's an absolute beast as he plows his way into the end zone.  I think my favorite part is the lack of a Gronk Spike at the end; it shows that what he really cares about is winning, not individual accomplishments.  
 
One of my pet peeves is football players celebrating plays without regard for game context.  A TD when you're down big, or a tackle after giving up a first down on third down, is not something to celebrate. 
 

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I have re-watched the toy soldier spike in London against the Rams about 10 times now.  Holy crap that's incredible.
 

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Funny to see Moss running over to congratulate him on his 2nd career TD.  Easy to forget that for the briefest of times two of the greatest skill position players of all time played together.
 

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I have re-watched the toy soldier spike in London against the Rams about 10 times now.  Holy crap that's incredible.
 
London dude. It's the Buckingham Palace Guard spike.
 

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I love the fact that he is wearing a waterproof pouch for some reason.  Like his mom told him to be careful with his phone
 

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My cousin lived in Lil Wayne's building in South Beach.  He ran into him one night in the elevator; Wayne had 1 blunt, 2 bottles of champagne and 3 women on him.  My cousin says, "I like my life, but I'd love yours even more."  If I ever met Gronk, that's exactly what I'd say.
 

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@TBrownYahoo: Dept. of Random: Rob Gronkowski just threw out the first pitch at Dodgers-Angels game.
 

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I just happened to see this story about our folk hero:
 
USA Today
 
 
“Uh, so if we’re sitting here and I had choose would I want a concussion right now or my knee blown out, I’m going to say a concussion. Why would I want to sit there for eight months and not do anything, when with a concussion I’ll just wake up and I’ll be ready to go again.
Gronk isn’t worried about not remembering things later in life because “that happens all the time. I don’t even know how I got to my hotel last night.”
 
The quote is funny, but sad at the same time.  I'm sure this is how most NFL players feel about the subject, and he's just telling it like it is.