"Due process is for stars" is more of a governing philosophy than a "line."There's just too much baggage mounting for a player who's basically nothing more than roster fodder. Bummer for him to be made an example of but at least we see there actually is a line with this team.
I enjoyed this. Thank you.It might rekindle the Depression phase for some, but I think pretty much everybody is past Denial, Anger and Bargaining, and most are on toCincinnatiAcceptance.
https://sports.yahoo.com/league-office-apparently-leaks-details-155701616.html(The specific allegation is that Elliott committed five acts of domestic violence in a six-day window.)
{Cris} Carter described the situation as a case of “assault or domestic violence,” and Carter hinted that “when the information comes out there’s going to be some similarities” to Tom Brady’s suspension, including “information that he had been advised possibly to give up, that was destroyed.”
My first thought is that he destroyed his personal cell phone.In case anyone, like me, was in the dark about what London is referring to:
https://sports.yahoo.com/league-office-apparently-leaks-details-155701616.html
Unless Elliott had video of himself smacking this woman around, I'm not sure I can come up with what possible evidence could have been destroyed.
Right, which would have potentially had incriminating videos or photos on it. Text messages? I'm not sure what that would prove but those could be obtained in other ways.My first thought is that he destroyed his personal cell phone.
And we're back around to my initial point about this whole thing:But as we saw in the Brady case, it doesn't matter what was on the phone. The mere fact that he destroyed it was one of the factors cited by the league in doling out Brady's discipline.
Doling out suspensions based on bad precedent is really fucking stupid.
Text messages could certainly be incriminating, and if it's just the NFL investigating, how would they get them in other ways? They don't have subpoena power....yet.Right, which would have potentially had incriminating videos or photos on it. Text messages? I'm not sure what that would prove but those could be obtained in other ways.
Ah, but now we're getting into the subject of overreach. If they don't have subpoena power, then maybe they shouldn't be in the investigative business. But that's a topic for another thread.Text messages could certainly be incriminating, and if it's just the NFL investigating, how would they get them in other ways? They don't have subpoena power....yet.
If all of this is true - it's all hearsay at this point though - it's possible that's what was done. We have no hard evidence either way but "destroyed evidence" could just as easily mean "deleted text conversations" as "smashed phone to pieces".More to the point, unless there's a way to revive a deleted thread, I don't get why someone would destroy their cellphone instead of just wiping their messages and cloud.
I think they said that the NFLPA agreed to the commissioner being sorta whimsical, which I think sucks for reasons beyond the Patriots, but yeah, you're right.Not to go farther down the rabbit-hole, but I'm pretty sure the 2nd circuit declared precisely that the system could be based on the whims of assholes. One particular asshole, in fact.
If the NFLPA wants to prioritize a change to that arrangement next CBA, I'll be cheering them on, but until then, the half-hearted Ballghazi jokes about Zeke Elliott are not funny for that very reason - they're not really jokes.
You talking about Tyrone Crawford? If so, the company line for now is that he'll be ready for the season opener. Looks pretty gnarly though:Any word on the injury yesterday dude?
Why not? There is no legal obstacle to this under that beloved Constitution and whatever else owners' agreement may exist.What do we bet that there will be some sort of declaration that while there was insufficient evidence in any specific incident, the fact that there are multiple incidents raised makes it seem more probable than not (or some similarly vague rationale for a general belief without real evidence) that he did something, so here's the suspension?
Which would be completely inappropriate as that punishment based on a general feeling of guilt is unacceptable. But then again, I still can't figure out why the owners putting pressure on the disciplinary system is at all acceptable; I rather wonder if the NFLPA is looking into whether or not that might make the system illegal insofar as that's evidence the decisions are not based on application of their own internal standards but upon the whims of assholes.
Isn't that the real point, though? Al Davis lost and when he did, these issues were settled for all time. The owners are a cartel and they are going to enforce or make up any bylaws that favor them while simultaneously fucking over the players as much as they can get away with.God I wish just one of these guys had the backbone of vintage Al Davis.
Yep. Serial abusers of women should probably get more than a 6 game vacation.Fuck the NFL
Can it be reduced, or is this a full six or zero thing? The evidence to me suggests he probably did assault his girlfriend, so if everyone is being consistent with the Ray Rice fallout, this probably is the right call. I'm just not sure what an appeal looks like or how it plays out.He'll appeal the ruling and probably will play the season until it's heard, right? Or will it be expedited?
If this is the new standard then great, but Josh Brown beat his wife 20 times according to her and got one game. Oh yeah, he played for the Maras.Yep. Serial abusers of women should probably get more than a 6 game vacation.
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Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones is said to be furious with NFL decision, per one source. Furious.
I think this is a response to what happened with Josh Brown and the subsequent criticism. Or it's because Elliott is black. I strongly suspect it's the former, but would never rule out the latter.If this is the new standard then great, but Josh Brown beat his wife 20 times according to her and got one game. Oh yeah, he played for the Maras.
Yes, this was the utmost bullshit. I think Zeke deserves the six, but Brown should have gotten six minimum. The only thing Goodell is consistent with is his inconsistency.If this is the new standard then great, but Josh Brown beat his wife 20 times according to her and got one game. Oh yeah, he played for the Maras.
Oh he's consistent. Mara rules.Yes, this was the utmost bullshit. I think Zeke deserves the six, but Brown should have gotten six minimum. The only thing Goodell is consistent with is his inconsistency.