2015 Gold Cup
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Everyone looks exhausted. Water break!
Edit: just get Beckerman off he has nothing in the back right now. Who is his alternate back there? Ream? Garza?
Edit: just get Beckerman off he has nothing in the back right now. Who is his alternate back there? Ream? Garza?
Christ. Beckerman and Bradley both easily bypassed there and not able to even get back. Guzan doesn't inspire confidence in his handling and command of his box
OilCanShotTupac said:
Zusi isn't a much of a threat going forward, but he'll help calm possession and he plays better D
He looked gassed. I'd guess the thought is Zusi can help them hold possession so their weak back line doesn't have to face as many runs.OilCanShotTupac said:
McBride11 said:
If Klinsmann ever opted for it, a 3-at-the-back with Brooks, Gonzalez, and Alvarado [swapping in Besler for the least effective of the three] and Yedlin/Johnson as wing-backs seems like it would be pretty effective, especially against opponents who can control the midfield.
Brooks has been great in the air, and not that bad overall. Alvarado has been a mess as his partner though.
Zusi with a few nice recoveries already and good defensive support for FJ. Best JK sub of the night.
To be fair he should never have been passed that ball. Less than a minute left all Zusi had to do was hoof it to the corner and let Wondo chase it. Dempsey looked like he wanted to murder him.Titans Bastard said:
Psk - as in a 3-5-2. Or 5-3-2? I be interested in seeing the later in some friendlies. Or are you saying put Alvarado in the Beckerman spot?
Is there some reason the central mid pairing is MB up, Beckerman back rather than, say, Diskerud up, MB back?
A switch to a three-CB formation would be a major change. It's the sort of thing that takes quite a few reps to adjust to, especially in making sure everyone is on the same page defensively. It would be reckless to test it out for the first time in a tournament. Maybe it's something to test in the future, but I also don't think that our CB pool is so good that we really need to be building a formation that allows us to use three of them instead of two.
Too many passes in the midfield all game that put the man receiving the ball in jail -- either because the pass was sloppy and the receiver had to take a wrong step or because the pass was a bad decision in the first place. Really horrible decisionmaking in the middle third. They looked asleep on their feet around the 50:00 mark. Honduras wasn't nearly as affected by conditions, though they finally had a few mental mistakes in the last five or so minutes.Cellar-Door said:
They ran a 3-5-2 against Chile earlier this year. I don't know that it fits the player pool much better. They really don't have a good fit for the CB/HB role other than the aged Jermaine Jones. I also think Brooks is better in a 4 man back line, as are most of our CBs. Really what they need is Chandler to have more consistently good games, or another RB to step up.McBride11 said:
speedracer said:
The reason is that the team is built around MB and MB is at his best when he is not anchored to defensive responsibilities. MB is able to pick out runners from among two forwards, the two wide midfielders, and the two fullbacks. He's not as effective when he's one of the front four (as we saw in the WC) and he's also not as effective when he's extremely deep (he's not that good as a #6). Diskerud has his uses, but he's not as influential a player. Certainly not influential enough to justify using MB out of position.
I'm the board's biggest Beckerman fan, but he looks old out there. New solutions at DM are required, and soon. It won't be Bradley, though. Danny Williams is next in line, but he's recovering from an injury. Our alternatives in the Gold Cup are Alfredo Morales or (if he's swapped in after the group stage) Perry Kitchen.
Titans Bastard said:
Totally, and it isn't something I'm advocating switching to immediately - more so with the '18 WC in mind and the strengths of Yedlin/Johnson lying in the mold of the traditional wingback as opposed to a fullback.
I was thinking more of a 3-4-3 traditionally - Yedlin and Johnson would still have defensive responsibilities, but it would be more on the level of what Zardes had to do tonight instead of a traditional fullback.
To provide enough defensive coverage, you can drop Beckerman into the stopper role in front of the back three, with Bradley paired alongside on paper but freer to roam:
------------------------ Guzan ------------------------
---------- Alvarado -- Gonzalez -- Brooks ----------
Yedlin ----- Beckerman ------ Bradley ----- Johnson
----------------------- Diskerud -----------------------
-------------- Dempsey ------ Altidore --------------
Based on what he's shown, Zardes could easily slot in for Johnson, or spell one of Altidore/Dempsey. If they went 3-4-3 with 2 AMs, Zardes and Dempsey would be perfect there feeding either Altidore or Johannsson.
I think our big lumbering CB get exposed in a 3 base. The 5 base better insures the Wingbacks are picking up those speedy midfield coming in. I guess it's more semantics but if my coach said we are playing a 3-4-3 and I am a wing in the 4, I feel more offensively inclined.
And I think we all agree it is an experiment after the GC finishes.
My big worry is KB and if he can rejuvenate or not.
And I think we all agree it is an experiment after the GC finishes.
My big worry is KB and if he can rejuvenate or not.
Not the best effort, but it's 3 points. They looked off all night and it seemed like the ref wasn't controlling things too well. Honduras isn't horrible, so taking the 3 points while playing like that isn't horrible, as long as there is improvement.
Man, I wish Jordan Morris was healthy.
Man, I wish Jordan Morris was healthy.
DrewDawg said:
Ref blew it early when that first really bad challenge (on Yedlin I think?) went uncalled. That guy was woefully unprepared for a match that everybody knew was going to be chippy.
https://twitter.com/JuanG_Arango/status/618890521780617216Titans Bastard said:
link to tweet
Now that relations are being normalized, the end of a tradition?
I'm gonna be there with the wife and kids. Question about traffic: are we anticipating Patriots-game size traffic jams? It normally takes me an hour to get from my house, how much time should I anticipate sitting in traffic?
