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2015 1st Round Pick, Andrew Benintendi, CF, Arkansas

Discussion in 'The Adopt a Prospect Forum' started by Snodgrass'Muff, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

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    No new thread for our first round pick? I know Jagger has the more fun name by far, and that Rei is interesting because he reminds people a little of Vazquez, but Benintendi, who my fiance is calling BeNintendo (his number when he gets his first cup of coffee should absolutely be 64) is the most exciting Red Sox draftee of the first two days. He has speed, power and plays a premium defensive position. 
     
    BA's scouting report.
     
     
     
    MLB.com's write up.
     
     
     
    Here are the basics:
     
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    DOB: July 6, 1994 (Age: 20)
    Height/Weight: 5'10", 170 pounds
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    School: Arkansas
    Previously Drafted: 2013, 31st round by Cincinnati
     
    Rankings:
     
    BA: 9th
    MLB: 8th
    minorleagueball.com: 11th
    ESPN: 21st
     
    Over The Monster has a piece up about where he slots into the farm system here. The consensus from the pieces they samples is that he slots right in with the Owens, Margot, Devers group of players near, but not quite at the top of the system. Given the depth of the system and the high profile names at the top (Moncada and Rodriguez, assuming Swihart loses eligibility soon), that's not exactly faint praise.
     
    He doesn't have any elite tools, but he rates average or above average everywhere.
     
    Here's a little video of him taking BP followed by some game action.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK2v5NzhSlM
     
    And here's a bit of that power.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyHu8t9CxGY
     
  2. Marbleheader

    Marbleheader Dope Dope

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    Good start to an 'Adopt a prospect' thread as well, Snod.
     
  3. IdiotKicker

    IdiotKicker Member SoSH Member

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    Home run swing there looks like a left-handed Napoli. Little loopy with a quick finish.
     
  4. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

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    Yeah, last year they got moved from the main board so I figured this would end up as his thread after a week or two and that it was worth setting it up as such.
     
  5. mt8thsw9th

    mt8thsw9th anti-SoSHal SoSH Member

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    Sounds like a funny guy.
     
  6. SuperManny

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    Keith Law has him at 21 on ESPN Insider
     
  7. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers SoSH Member

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    Thanks. Updated.
     
  8. Puffy

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    I could see it. His swings in the batting practice video were more one-handed and reminded me very much of Mike Greenwell.
     
  9. RedOctober3829

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    Benintendi was named Baseball America's National Player of the Year.  A snippet of the article on him.
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/2015-college-player-year-andrew-benintendi/
     
  10. DrewDawg

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    What were his "too good to be true high school heroics"?
     
  11. DanoooME

    DanoooME Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    They are in the linked article above.
     
    He was drafted by the Reds in the 31st round in 2013.  Quite the jump up by going to college.
     
  12. DrewDawg

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    Damn, my bad.
     
    I had read another article that mentioned HS and didn't have actual info, so I assumed it wasn't here either.
     
    EDIT: Here's the video referenced in the article:
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOIrXZtJytk
     
  13. Hee Sox Choi

    Hee Sox Choi Member SoSH Member

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    "the Hit King returned"
     
    The Hit King.  I like that. 
     
  14. wade boggs chicken dinner

    wade boggs chicken dinner Member SoSH Member

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  15. mt8thsw9th

    mt8thsw9th anti-SoSHal SoSH Member

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    Did you figure he'd be even younger than that?
     
  16. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    I think the point is how young Trey Ball is, even though he's been in the system for as long as he has. So maybe it's still too soon to give up on him.
     
  17. absintheofmalaise

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    If you'd like to see him in action, Arkansas plays Virginia at 3 this Saturday and the game will be on ESPN.
     
  18. Snodgrass'Muff

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    Thanks for the head's up. I'll definitely try to catch a few innings. I'm also planning on catching a few games as he passes through Brooklyn and Staten Island if he's in the NYPL long enough to have road games at either or both.
     
  19. RedOctober3829

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    I bet he won't even start out at Lowell.  I bet he'll start at Salem.
     
  20. Merkle's Boner

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    I really hope they don't automatically allocate him to Lowell and the NYPL. He's the National Collegiate player of the Year, I would hope he could handle Greenville.
     
  21. Detts

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    Sam Travis did Lowell for 40 games and then 27 at Greenville.
    Marrero did 64 games in Lowell, then skipped Greenville the following year.
     
    I'm guessing Lowell.
     
  22. Snodgrass'Muff

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    You guys are probably right, but I'm being selfish and hoping he spends a few weeks playing at a level I have a chance to see him at. I used to catch the Sea Dogs pretty regularly when I lived near New Britain, CT. Since moving to New York, I haven't actually been to a minor league game and while I could just go and check out a local team for the heck of it, having a Sox prospect or two to check out makes it a lot more fun.
     
  23. wade boggs chicken dinner

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    No, I did not think he'd be younger (he really couldn't be much younger).  Benintendi is obviously old for his grade (although he's young in terms of college draftees); I guess in some ways he's a practical example of what was mentioned in Outliers.
     
    The practice of redshirting kids fascinates me and I wonder what effects the practice has.  But like I said, this may be of interest to no one else but me.
     
  24. Savin Hillbilly

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    If they start him with a full-season team, wouldn't it be Greenville, unless they're planning to promote Margot to Portland at the same time? Greenville's current CF Monge seems fungible (he's not even in SoxProspects' top 60).
     
    BTW, if they did start him at Greenville that would put him in the same lineup with Moncada, Devers, Chavis, Guerra and Longhi. Holy crap.
     
  25. Bigpupp

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    Did you mean Greenville? I wouldn't be all too surprised to see him start out there (although I think Lowell for a handful of games is more likely). But keeping in mind he is only a sophomore, I would say starting at Salem is as close to 0% as you can get. 
     
  26. steveluck7

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    I would think Lowell as well. Let him get used to the day to day routine of pro ball. It'll also let the Boston FO keep a bit closer eye on him. Then let him earn his spot with Greenville or Salem next spring
     
  27. Deathofthebambino

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    A lot of cool stuff about him in that BA piece, particularly that he grew up a couple minutes from the same private high school that Griffey Jr. and Larkin attended, but chose to attend public school instead, so he could also play basketball.  He's only 5'10', but he set the school record for career points with 1,753 (a shitload in high school), points in a season (638), ppg in a season (25.5) and career 3 pointers (180).  Kid's a real deal athlete. 
     
  28. TheDeuce222

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    Impressive performance in the CWS so far today. Really nice diving catch in center to rob Virginia of a hit, and a sac fly and an effortless no-doubt HR at the plate. Looks to have extremely quick hands through the zone as advertised.
     
  29. Bigpupp

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    Then he walked and stole a base in the 8th. Showed off all the tools today for sure.
     
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  31. E5 Yaz

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    Of course he'll sign. The list of MLB first-round picks who don't sign is very, very short
     
  32. RedOctober3829

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    You would think he'd sign given he's a top 10 guy.  But, he has the leverage of 2 more years in college which very few have when drafted.
     
  33. Savin Hillbilly

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    True, but as you suggested, it sounds like that's about to become moot. At least his tweet is hard to read any other way.
     
  34. Papelbon's Poutine

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    Just won the Golden Spikes award.
     
  35. soxhop411

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    FAYETTEVILLE — Arkansas outfielder Andrew Benintendi won the Golden Spikes Award on Tuesday, completing a sweep of college baseball's most prestigious awards as national player of the year.
    Benitendi was presented the award during a ceremony in Los Angeles. The Golden Spikes is one of two major national player of the year awards alongside the Dick Howser Trophy, with which Benintendi was presented on June 13 at the College World Series in Omaha, Nebraska.
    "I am very proud to be the recipient of the 2015 Golden Spikes Award," Benintendi said in a statement to WholeHogSports.com. "If it were not for my coaches, trainers, teammates and parents this would not be possible. I am grateful and humbled to join the long list of outstanding players who have received this award and would like to thank USA Baseball for this honor."
    Benintendi is the first Arkansas player to win either of the awards and is the 17th player to win both in the same season.

    http://m.nwaonline.com/news/2015/jun/23/benintendi-wins-golden-spikes-award/
     
  36. soxhop411

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    “@Sean_McAdam: Some recent Golden Spikes winners: David Price, Buster Posey, Stephen Strasburg, Bryce Harper, Trevor Bauer, Mike Zunino + Kris Bryant.”
     
  37. Savin Hillbilly

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    In other words, the law of averages says it's time for one to bust.
     
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  38. Rovin Romine

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    Link to the past winners:  http://web.usabaseball.com/goldenspikes/winners.jsp
     
    Including this handsome guy: [​IMG]
     
     
     
    And this guy turned out OK:  [​IMG]
     
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    I'm becoming more and more surprised we got Benintendi.  
     
  39. moondog80

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    Wow, that's a pretty good hit rate, especially for the position players.
     
  40. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    It's strictly because of his size. If he were 6'2", 210 he would've been first overall.
     
  41. Rovin Romine

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    He's 20 years old:  5'10", 180.   He won't pick up inches, but he could put on a bit more muscle without becoming Hanley-esque. 
     
    I always wonder about "listed" heights and weights as opposed to the actual.   Regardless of height, it's not like short guys haven't had success, including producing some power: 
     
    Successful players under 5'10": http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/4/15/2109021/the-best-short-position-players-of-all-time
     
    (slideshow) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1228431-mlbs-25-best-power-hitters-ever-under-60-tall
     
  42. arrowmaker

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    SEC player of the year
    Baseball America national player of the year
    Collegiate Baseball national player of the year
    Dick Howser Trophy
    Golden Spides Award
     
    Having seen Benintendi in person (5' 10" 170#), he's not been measured with the same tape that puts Pedroia at 5' 9"
    and remember  Yaz was 5'11"  175#
     
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  44. ivanvamp

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    Fair to say we're all a little more encouraged by this pick than the Trey Ball selection?
     
  45. jscola85

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    Totally different picks.  The Ball selection was pretty much purely a high risk / high reward selection.  Benintendi should be a guy who moves quickly through the system though may not have the ceiling of a tall, projectable lefty who throws in the mid-90's.
     
  46. The Tax Man

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    Today on .com, Cuz has analyzed Benintendi and looked at how winning both the Dick Howser Trophy and Golden Spikes Award portends an interesting future for the prospect. 
     
  47. doc

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    I was at Lowell for the Spinners game last night and this kid has an arm, saw him throw out a runner from deep center (350 ft +) on a attempted sac fly.
     
  48. Snodgrass'Muff

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    He also has a 156 wRC+ with 4 home runs, a double and 3 triples in 100 plate appearances. 244/390/487 so far. He has a 19% walk rate to go with a 14% strikeout rate. Obviously the walk rate will come down and the strikeout rate will probably tick up as he advances, but holy crap. 19%?
     
    It's nice to see some early returns from the number 7 overall pick this time around.
     
  49. jscola85

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    Benintendi doesn't have enough ABs to qualify it seems, but if he did he'd be 4th in the NYPL in OPS. Just hit 100 PAs - would a promotion to Greenville be out of line soon? I believe Keith Law mentioned on Twitter that he felt he should be in Salem next year, so at least a taste of full season ball this year would seem to make sense if that's the plan for him.
     
  50. Byrdbrain

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    Some of the SoxProspects guys on Twitter yesterday were saying he should be going up to Greenville any time now. They were speculating it might even be yesterday since Lowell had to make some kind of roster move, obviously that didn't happen.
     
    Chris Hatfield ‏@SPChrisHatfield  Aug 4
    Lowell needs to clear a roster spot before tonight's game. Not predicting or projecting it, but a Benintendi promotion wouldn't surprise.
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    Edit:Added tweet I referenced, a bit wishy washier than I had remembered.
     

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