2023-2024 General NBA Season Thread

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Gawd Miami, lurking around at 17-12

I really don't want them getting a player at the deadline.

The Duncan Robinson resurrection tour continues. 21pts in Q4 tonight

Herro puts up 30 & Jaquez slides into the starting 5 with 19pts

Letting Gabe Vincent/Max Strus sign elsewhere pruned the roster
 
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Phoenix loses to Sac by 15. They've played a couple of extra home games and they've played the easiest schedule in the league, but they're currently sitting at .500. They really need their big 3 healthy.
 
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Trayce Jackson-Davis, in his last 3 games since getting regular rotation minutes in the Warriors 3 wins:

72 Min
44 Points
16-23 FG
36 Rebounds
7 Assists
5 Blk Shots

Jordan Walsh, in his entire season for the Celtics

0 Min
0 Points
0-0 FG
0 Rebounds
0 Assists
0 Blk Shots


My screams for Gobert on draft night over Olynyk may soon be overtaken by my TJD screams last June.
 
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Pretty curious if MEM can push their way into the top 10 in the West now that Morant is back. They were 6-19 without him, 2-0 so far with him but about to start a four game road trip.
 
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Pretty curious if MEM can push their way into the top 10 in the West now that Morant is back. They were 6-19 without him, 2-0 so far with him but about to start a four game road trip.
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Plenty of season left but that's a tough ask to bypass 2 out of the Lakers, Suns, Warriors and Rockets. The latter is the most likely opportunity but would need some injuries to specific HOFers on one of the other in addition to getting themselves together.
 
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HomeRunBaker said:
Trayce Jackson-Davis, in his last 3 games since getting regular rotation minutes in the Warriors 3 wins:

72 Min
44 Points
16-23 FG
36 Rebounds
7 Assists
5 Blk Shots

Jordan Walsh, in his entire season for the Celtics

0 Min
0 Points
0-0 FG
0 Rebounds
0 Assists
0 Blk Shots


My screams for Gobert on draft night over Olynyk may soon be overtaken by my TJD screams last June.
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TJD has made as many shots as Walsh that are not dunks or lay-ups, which is 0 (TJD is 0-2). If TJD were on the Cs, I'm pretty sure he'd have the same NBA stats as Walsh. Also, don't the Cs basically have a bigger version of TJD in Queeta?
 
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HomeRunBaker said:
Trayce Jackson-Davis, in his last 3 games since getting regular rotation minutes in the Warriors 3 wins:

72 Min
44 Points
16-23 FG
36 Rebounds
7 Assists
5 Blk Shots

Jordan Walsh, in his entire season for the Celtics

0 Min
0 Points
0-0 FG
0 Rebounds
0 Assists
0 Blk Shots


My screams for Gobert on draft night over Olynyk may soon be overtaken by my TJD screams last June.
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In each of his last 2 games, the @warriors ' Trayce Jackson-Davis has:

- notched a double-double
- grabbed more than a dozen rebounds
- shot better than 70%

The last NBA player to do that off the bench in back-to-back games was his father, Dale Davis, from April 12-13, 2001.
 
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wade boggs chicken dinner said:
TJD has made as many shots as Walsh that are not dunks or lay-ups, which is 0 (TJD is 0-2). If TJD were on the Cs, I'm pretty sure he'd have the same NBA stats as Walsh. Also, don't the Cs basically have a bigger version of TJD in Queeta?
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TJD is much much much more skilled than Queta who is essentially playing by default until we add pieces. What's wrong with making dunks? Many he creates off his spin dribble too.
 
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In each of his last 2 games, the @warriors ' Trayce Jackson-Davis has:

- notched a double-double
- grabbed more than a dozen rebounds
- shot better than 70%

The last NBA player to do that off the bench in back-to-back games was his father, Dale Davis, from April 12-13, 2001.
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You really know how to hurt a man.
 
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TJD is much much much more skilled than Queta who is essentially playing by default until we add pieces. What's wrong with making dunks? Many he creates off his spin dribble too.
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TJD has a good feel for the game. Queta was a nice addition, so +1 for adding him.

who has had a better Warriors career, James Wiseman or TJD?
 
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benhogan said:
TJD has a good feel for the game. Queta was a nice addition, so +1 for adding him.

who has had a better Warriors career, James Wiseman or TJD?
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(Per 100 poss.)
JWise -12.2 on court / -16.4 net on-off
TJD +16.4 on court / +18.1 net on-off

Still just a 185 minute sample with TJD, tho…
 
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He's been playing the Kornet role as 3rd big behind Looney and Saric (similar to KP and Al) bouncing between reg rotation to spot to DNP but had a big game when Looney got in foul trouble two games ago and earned more the last two games.
 
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The Knicks finally have a decent playoff team but they just can’t beat a team like the Bucks as we saw today. 0-3 against them already.

The best case for NY this season is swinging a trade for someone like Dejounte Murray and then getting a lucky break come playoff time with injuries on Philly, C’s, Bucks.
 
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The Knicks finally have a decent playoff team but they just can’t beat a team like the Bucks as we saw today. 0-3 against them already.

The best case for NY this season is swinging a trade for someone like Dejounte Murray and then getting a lucky break come playoff time with injuries on Philly, C’s, Bucks.
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The Knicks are stuck in that dreaded purgatory range. Too good to get a lottery pick and not good enough to make deep runs. I suppose that's an upgrade from the Chris Duhon and Wilson Chandler days but when it takes 15 years to reach purgatory you're clearly doing something wrong.
 
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The Knicks are stuck in that dreaded purgatory range. Too good to get a lottery pick and not good enough to make deep runs. I suppose that's an upgrade from the Chris Duhon and Wilson Chandler days but when it takes 15 years to reach purgatory you're clearly doing something wrong.
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agreed. I am still not sure they made right call on Mitchell—-though he and Brunson don’t fit. But they need to get Randle/Barrett/1sts consolidated into a real impact guy and while I appreciate patience from them it’s not 100% clear they’ll get there
 
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The Lakers beat the Thunder, shooting 50% from 3. Lebron was incredible - 40/7/7 on 13/20 shooting, including 5-5 from 3 and 9-9 from the line. He's shooting .412 from 3 so far this year, a career high. This must have been how the rest of the league felt about Tom Brady near the end, it's infuriating.
 
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The Heat are a team Embiid should feast on, their defensive strength is steals and preventing penetration dribbles. He should be a matchup advantage on Adebayo et al. Not sure why he'd want to duck the matchup.
 
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The Heat are a team Embiid should feast on, their defensive strength is steals and preventing penetration dribbles. He should be a matchup advantage on Adebayo et al. Not sure why he'd want to duck the matchup.
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They're not the Pistons or Wizards, so they might try to do things on the basketball court to make it challenging for him to score, thus rendering his MVP candidacy less impressive.

Savvy veteran move.
 
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Embiid averages fewer ppg against Miami than every team other than Memphis and Toronto, and he's sat out 4 out of the 14 games Philly has played against .500+ teams (and he's shown up for all 15 games against sub .500 teams). He sat out against Denver and Jokic last March knowing a bad performance could hurt his MVP candidacy. The excuse given was general soreness, but he'd just played 13 straight games (the previous game he missed was against Miami, surprise), and then he played 5 straight after that.

90% kidding, but this is absolutely a guy with his eye on the prize (another MVP).
 
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Embiid averages fewer ppg against Miami than every team other than Memphis and Toronto, and he's sat out 4 out of the 14 games Philly has played against .500+ teams (and he's shown up for all 15 games against sub .500 teams). He sat out against Denver and Jokic last March knowing a bad performance could hurt his MVP candidacy. The excuse given was general soreness, but he'd just played 13 straight games (the previous game he missed was against Miami, surprise), and then he played 5 straight after that.

90% kidding, but this is absolutely a guy with his eye on the prize (another MVP).
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I was just good-naturedly joshing Embiid, but now you've got me hmmmmm'ing......
 
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Jalen Brunson can score but man does he work hard to do so. 38 points on 28 shots. The Knicks sent the Bucks home with coal though so its all good.
 
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I could be way off on this, but is this the first time in a couple years where the NBA didn't force teams into those city uniforms for the Christmas games? Nice to have the regular looks.
 
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Jalen Brunson can score but man does he work hard to do so. 38 points on 28 shots. The Knicks sent the Bucks home with coal though so its all good.
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I would like to extend that lead for the 1 seed!
Make it 10 games by March and then we can, be careful with minutes.

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Anyone watching the Mavs game and Grant pleading his case aggressively to the ref only to get the makeup call illegal scene :04 later? This is why you work officials.
 
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Someone wanna explain to me why the Heat or Sixers aren't catching shit from the league for their stars ducking a national TV game? Because "oh they're, uh, they're hurt"? Like it's such a farce it's getting mocked by NBA Twitter (and here), and I thought the league now had some serious-sounding rules to try to impose meaningful punishment on the teams who did this.
 
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Someone wanna explain to me why the Heat or Sixers aren't catching shit from the league for their stars ducking a national TV game? Because "oh they're, uh, they're hurt"? Like it's such a farce it's getting mocked by NBA Twitter (and here), and I thought the league now had some serious-sounding rules to try to impose meaningful punishment on the teams who did this.
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Based on https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38386013/how-nba-new-rules-resting-stars-work
the Heat wouldn't be investigated because Adebayo played, but Embiid would be.

This amused me in light of Embiid apparently choosing not to play against strong teams:

"The league also has the discretion to investigate based on the following:

Pattern of one-game road absences for star player"
 
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Someone wanna explain to me why the Heat or Sixers aren't catching shit from the league for their stars ducking a national TV game? Because "oh they're, uh, they're hurt"? Like it's such a farce it's getting mocked by NBA Twitter (and here), and I thought the league now had some serious-sounding rules to try to impose meaningful punishment on the teams who did this.
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When Embiid turned his ankle the game prior it looked worst than Tatum's that caused him to miss a game. He finished up but that looked like an injury where he'd miss a couple games so there isn't really anything to investigate imo.
 
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Grant grifting his way to the free throw line via a double dribble. And then he gets tangled up with Booker. This League etc etc
 
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This Suns situation feels like it could unravel pretty quickly. 14-15 after tonight. Based purely on opponents record they have the third most difficult remaining schedule. And they don’t have much in the way of draft assets after the KD snd Beal trades.
 
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This Suns situation feels like it could unravel pretty quickly. 14-15 after tonight. Based purely on opponents record they have the third most difficult remaining schedule. And they don’t have much in the way of draft assets after the KD snd Beal trades.
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They've even been trading additional rights on the picks they retained in swap years lol.

The Nets must be licking their chops. This could devolve into Booker and the Boys pretty quickly, particularly if Phoenix moves KD to restock the cupboard.

Sounds crazy now, but Brooklyn did exactly that with KD, and effectively got a redo on the Kyrie years.
 
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I'd be curious to know what Durant's value is now, but what team will give up a haul similar to Phoenix' from last winter if he's not moved until the offseason? He's getting up there.

View: https://twitter.com/YoungNBA/status/1739511981504082213?s=20


Either things will click for them, or the losses are gonna start piling up as the schedule gets harder. Beal will be back at some point, but he's not the difference between an average team and a title contender. They'll need to figure it out without him.
 
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I'd be curious to know what Durant's value is now, but what team will give up a haul similar to Phoenix' from last winter if he's not moved until the offseason? He's getting up there.

View: https://twitter.com/YoungNBA/status/1739511981504082213?s=20


Either things will click for them, or the losses are gonna start piling up as the schedule gets harder. Beal will be back at some point, but he's not the difference between an average team and a title contender. They'll need to figure it out without him.
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Durant's numbers this year are really good, especially considering the crappy context in Phoenix. With the way stars have been aging better and better, I think someone would pay up for him.

You are correct that the clock is ticking on being able to get a haul for him though.
 
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I'd be curious to know what Durant's value is now, but what team will give up a haul similar to Phoenix' from last winter if he's not moved until the offseason? He's getting up there.

View: https://twitter.com/YoungNBA/status/1739511981504082213?s=20


Either things will click for them, or the losses are gonna start piling up as the schedule gets harder. Beal will be back at some point, but he's not the difference between an average team and a title contender. They'll need to figure it out without him.
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I saw that play and Metu was already having a rough game all around so I get Booker's frustration. That said, openly shouting at teammates whom you will presumably need to rely on down the stretch - even if its just rotational minutes - seems like a recipe for problems.

I would be shocked if the Suns blow it up in-season but anything can happen.
 
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