On countsown… Kyrie just donated an ENTIRE 500k to the ADL. As did the nets org. With some half assed pr statement
Would love to read the subject line on the check Kyrie cut.Kyrie and ADL just put out a joint statement saying that Kyrie and the Nets are both making $1.5m donation?
Eh
NBA Countdown said 500K each. Also, I'm sure all he'll do from here on out is point to that statement to any question. No apology for him!Kyrie and ADL just put out a joint statement saying that Kyrie and the Nets are both making $1.5m donation.
Eh
Yeah. He's doing it because someone told him thats the best way to get people off his back.Big fucking deal. Tax write off if he actually even makes the donation.
did he say WHY he is making this gesture?
I’ve decided to conclude that he chose the amount as representing eleven cents for each of his Twitter followers.Would love to read the subject line on the check Kyrie cut.
Kyrie’s statement is not an apology and, if anything, makes it clear he actually is antisemitic since he cannot bring himself to condemn it.The statement includes an apology from Kyrie and his “family”. I’ll interpret this as a $500k fine from the league/team.
Fuck Kyrie.
His statement says, "I do not believe everything said in the documentary was true or reflects my morals and principles." So some of the things said in the "documentary" are true or reflect his morals and principles?Kyrie’s statement is not an apology and, if anything, makes it clear he actually is antisemitic since he cannot bring himself to condemn it.
Fair enough. The segment of the statement I referred to:Kyrie’s statement is not an apology and, if anything, makes it clear he actually is antisemitic since he cannot bring himself to condemn it.
I repeat: fuck Kyrie."I am aware of the negative impact of my post towards the Jewish community and I take responsibility," Irving said in the joint statement. "I do not believe everything said in the documentary was true or reflects my morals and principles. I am a human being learning from all walks of life and I intend to do so with an open mind and a willingness to listen. So from my family and I, we meant no harm to any one group, race or religion of people, and wish to only be a beacon of truth and light."
Considering how stubborn Kyrie typically is and was in the press conference about this in particular, that’s probably the best the Nets PR department could get him to say. Kind of makes me wonder who is actually paying his half of the donation.His statement says, "I do not believe everything said in the documentary was true or reflects my morals and principles." So some of the things said in the "documentary" are true or reflect his morals and principles?
Love the use of the term documentary too, implying that this film is not hate filled propaganda but something more objective.
Would have been better to say, “I’m sorry people were offended by my comments.”Take responsibility is a weird way to apologize. It’s a slightly negative word, but is also kind of close to achieve. Like yeah, looks like I was responsible for fucking the Jewish community up. I did that. Not sorry though.
Or doesn’t want to / feel like he owes one.That's an apology delivered by someone who has no idea what it actually means to apologize.
‘know who else was aware of and took responsibility for the negative impact his actions had on the Jewish community?Take responsibility is a weird way to apologize. It’s a slightly negative word, but is also kind of close to achieve. Like yeah, looks like I was responsible for fucking the Jewish community up. I did that. Not sorry though.
Ramses?‘know who else was aware of and took responsibility for the negative impact his actions had on the Jewish community?
I hate it.I'm not sure I love the ADL taking the money.
I'm not gonna report this post, but I probably should.True, no one loathes the poor more than progressives.
He meant Progressive insurance.I'm not gonna report this post, but I probably should.
Someone will make a post on Twitter or Instagram about how the ADL is run by greedy globalists all across the earth looking for money and Kyrie will like it.
Would $25 chill you out?I'm not gonna report this post, but I probably should.
Nice.Someone will make a post on Twitter or Instagram about how the ADL is run by greedy globalists all across the earth looking for money and Kyrie will like it.
Also, has never had to.Or doesn’t want to / feel like he owes one.
This is true. At least the rich appreciate the value that poor people provide as incentive to the bourgeoisie to work harder and support capital lest they too become poor.True, no one loathes the poor more than progressives.
Agreed, but I think he was waiting for the Nets to act and then when Kyrie didn't apologize while making the donation, he decided to moveAbout fucking time.
I hope you’re not expecting me to disagree with that. Working class/poor resentment starts with the fact that the upper classes hold them in contempt.This is true. At least the rich appreciate the value that poor people provide as incentive to the bourgeoisie to work harder and support capital lest they too become poor.
I cannot recall the last time Silver or Stern before him issued a press release effectively shading a star player (and imo, most NBA people consider Kyrie a star player even if folks here understandably fo not) for their personal views.Yeah, I'm not seeing what the NBA did wrong here other than to give him a chance to apologize. Instead he made a half-hearted attempt to buy his way out of the situation.
I am wondering, too, whether the league may not be too happy with the Nets right now with the Ime situation.
which is what he just did lol....He must've been feeling some real heat from Tsai, corporate sponsors, the league, etc. Social media has both intellectually and morally dumbed us down so much, pulling the tweet will basically be treated as tantamount to absolution, all better now, and this probably dies quickly. I doubt he faces any real consequences for posting that sewage in the first place. Unless he's crazy and stupid enough to keep doubling down on it in other ways going forward. Which is certainly not out of the question in his case.
I do have some experience in this space. I would say what Silver is doing is courageous and highly unusual. The standard and much safer route to take would have been to simply express their frustration behind closed doors to Kyrie. Which I’m sure they did as well before the joint statement was released. That they felt the need to proactively say the statement wasn’t enough suggests to me that 1) Those behind the scenes conversations were unproductive and 2) Longer term damage to the league was possible if the statement were allowed to stand unchallenged.I cannot recall the last time Silver or Stern before him issued a press release effectively shading a star player (and imo, most NBA people consider Kyrie a star player even if folks here understandably fo not) for their personal views.
The NBA may be messing this situation up but from where I sit they are dealing with a crappy situation especially given all the different stakeholders, including some of the other (star or not) players who may not agree with everything Kyrie believes but may still be sympathetic. Expecting them to do anything other than a very measured responses is simply expecting too much out of a complex situation.
That said if we have some folks here experienced in handling these sorts of situations for large global companies who can tell us what the league is doing wrong here, please share. Its certainly not something in which I have any expertise.
The commissioner being Jewish (not sure if he's practicing or not) probably played into the league's response here.I do have some experience in this space. I would say what Silver is doing is courageous and highly unusual. The standard and much safer route to take would have been to simply express their frustration behind closed doors to Kyrie. Which I’m sure they did as well before the joint statement was released. That they felt the need to proactively say the statement wasn’t enough suggests to me that 1) Those behind the scenes conversations were unproductive and 2) Longer term damage to the league was possible if the statement were allowed to stand unchallenged.
I would also think that the league didn’t want to be left implicitly supporting the statement once Kyrie was asked by the media why he didn’t apologize outright as it would suggest they don’t take antisemitism seriously. This as you have face the prospect of having protestors in the front row at every home game.
What feels like equally big news to me is that Silver is implicitly calling out the Nets here as well. I’m not sure what the relationship is between the league office and Joe Tsai but they can’t be happy about the team creating two headaches for the league at once by taking Udoka out of a team-imposed timeout that they may have to deal with themselves now.
It shouldn't.The commissioner being Jewish (not sure if he's practicing or not) probably played into the league's response here.
It would have messed with my head if you disagreed with that. /V&NI hope you’re not expecting me to disagree with that. Working class/poor resentment starts with the fact that the upper classes hold them in contempt.
It would be a hell of a lot more likely for a Gentile to consider Kyrie's shitty response as acceptable. I mean, Tsai, a Gentile, literally did.It shouldn't.
I don't think there is any evidence that anyone (Nets, media, the league, the general public, posters on this board, etc.) found his response acceptable. It has been pretty much universally condemned as unacceptable.It would be a hell of a lot more likely for a Gentile to consider Kyrie's shitty response as acceptable. I mean, Tsai, a Gentile, literally did.
Certainly, in an ideal world it wouldn't!
Did he also waste the best-trained Canadian special forces by having them storm assault a fortified port? When the IRA got him, my Royal Orange Lodge uncle a Canadian WW2 vet called it a "peace offering".No kidding. Who let Dickie Mountbatten in the forum?