Balmer Franching and JRod injury gives me hope for WC3Yeah, I was prepared to watch a team with a few key pieces elbow it's way into the post season. . .or a team that was going to try to develop some prospects over the summer.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to see. But if this is it, I can't say I'm particularly revved up for it.
The Hosmer fit at Fenway will be interesting.
And who knows, they may actually get a WC spot? Especially when Baltimore seems to have conceded.
At least that would be something of interest happeningTwitter speculation about JD and Eovaldi to LA at the last minute... nothing confirmed
Both will be given a QO. Vaz wouldn’t get one and he was traded for what they could get. I think it’s that simple.How do you not trade Nate and JD for the best possible return? I don’t get it.
He likes Reese more than Vazquez. Or he really likes the prospects he got back.So what was the point of trading Vazquez if you're holding on to everyone else? Disappointing deadline.
2020 strike oneI’m willing to give Chaim the benefit of the doubt once again. If we are in a similar situation next year, I’ll change my tune.
Exactly. We may have gotten a few small and slight upgrades but we have taken a giant hit at the catcher position that is if we intend to contend.So what was the point of trading Vazquez if you're holding on to everyone else? Disappointing deadline.
Wow is right.WOW.
Speier reports that SD is paying all of Hosmer's deal, less the minimum.
Isn’t JD pretty much a lock to accept it?Both will be given a QO. Vaz wouldn’t get one and he was traded for what they could get. I think it’s that simple.
Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.So what was the point of trading Vazquez if you're holding on to everyone else? Disappointing deadline.
Ok wow. Thank you Mr Jay Groome
So the Padres bought Groome.WOW.
Speier reports that SD is paying all of Hosmer's deal, less the minimum.
They must like Groome a lot for whatever reasonIsn’t JD pretty much a lock to accept it?
Can someone explain to me the logic of the Padres paying all of Hosmer’s salary and giving up prospects? Why not just release him? What’s the benefit?
They bought a prospect. They really like Groome.Isn’t JD pretty much a lock to accept it?
Can someone explain to me the logic of the Padres paying all of Hosmer’s salary and giving up prospects? Why not just release him? What’s the benefit?
This guy gets it.Probably something about how much he hates Bloom. Maybe accusing John Henry of caring more about Liverpool. Throw in a joke about McGuire masturbating and he's got a SoSH deadline trifecta.
I think the most logical answer is that Bloom tried to hedge between adding to the organization but not tossing in the towel on the team. Or at least that's what he's done. Maybe, like some here think he should do, he's gonna look in the mirror and see "failure: because he really intended to throw in the towel and failed.Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.
But then you hold onto all your pending FA players - except your catcher, who is a + player. . .who you trade for prospects.
Shhh! Don’t contradict the preactionary posters!If, when, Devers, Story, Hernandez, and Wacha, are back in this lineup without Dalbec and Franchy this team will produce and stay very much in the Wild Card hunt.
Season isn’t over. More salary can be dropped.View: https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/1554591007110463496?s=21&t=VUu2ySKf_1DyIZCIed8fLQ
Good thing Mookie Betts was traded to stay under that!
If they do it without the player that managed the pitching staff that will be a real accomplishment.If, when, Devers, Story, Hernandez, and Wacha, are back in this lineup without Dalbec and Franchy this team will produce and stay very much in the Wild Card hunt.
It's tough to avoid the impression that the front office overplayed their hand. Those two in particular were connected to plenty of teams in the last week, and every single one of them filled the position from elsewhere.How do you not trade Nate and JD for the best possible return? I don’t get it.
Valdez is sadly probably their best option at 2B right now. & even in a good year Vaz has been worth only 1.8 WAR, so what are you giving up be trading him? Pessimistically one game over the rest of the season? (McGuire has been worth 0.6 in more limited playing time)Overall, that's the most puzzling part of this to me. Hosmer and Pham are at least upgrades to current black holes. . .perhaps also adequate stopgaps for next year if Pham fits the org. and a deal can be reached.
But then you hold onto all your pending FA players - except your catcher, who is a + player. . .who you trade for prospects.
Tough crowd. He had been with the team six months and was mandated to trade away their best player.2020 strike one
Today strike two
I'm not sure that's true, the August waiver period has been eliminated, right?Season isn’t over. More salary can be dropped.
Its not that tough at all. Putting aside what "connected to" means. dumping them for whatever they could get/less than they think theyre worth while gutting the team would be a bad move.It's tough to avoid the impression that the front office overplayed their hand. Those two in particular were connected to plenty of teams in the last week, and every single one of them filled the position from elsewhere.
I thought they had some guys who could be DFA’d and not paid in full. But I could be wrong. You are right, though , no waiver trades anymore.I'm not sure that's true, the August waiver period has been eliminated, right?
I really thought I read Bloom say almost exactly that last week. He wasn't lying when he said he didnt think they were out of it.So I guess the Sox are still trying to contend? They got 1B/RF help they needed and only lost Vaz. I wasn't expecting that.
Devers is back tonight. Story will be back soon. Wacha and Hill are coming back. We filled holes at 1B and OF. No reason they can’t contend.So I guess the Sox are still trying to contend? They got 1B/RF help they needed and only lost Vaz. I wasn't expecting that.
This is my sense as well. I like the guy, but I would be wary of going over one year for the guy who is already the most accomplished 2x TJS pitcher of all time.I think this improves the chance we're re-signing Eovaldi, right? If we're over the cap and he'd be worth a 4th round pick, might as well spend some of our boatload of cash to keep him around.
Who would Pham and Hosmer block, and how?No real rhyme or reason to this deadline, or at least it feels like there was no overarching plan. Moving Vazquez but not Martinez or Eovaldi is hard to understand. Adding Hosmer and Pham ups the floor by a little but at the potential cost of blocking roster spots next year with declining veterans. The prospects added are more depth options than likely impact players. No real salary or tax relief either. The clubhouse lost a vocal leader, which clearly upset those players still remaining. All told: minor upgrades for the rest of the season (which may be canceled out by the drop from Vazquez to McGuire/Plawecki/Wong) and no real change to the 2023 and beyond calculus. Frustrating, to say the least.