You aiming to be the next Danny Pratt?I agree with all of this. Additionally, "fucking the poodle" will slide next to "screwing the pooch" in the lexicon. Thanks for that.
You aiming to be the next Danny Pratt?I agree with all of this. Additionally, "fucking the poodle" will slide next to "screwing the pooch" in the lexicon. Thanks for that.
IDK. McDermott at 1yr for $7.3MM is ok....finding a bid for guys shooting 43% from 3 with little D doesn't seem tricky (see Bertans/Joe Harris)The leak doesn’t make sense. Turner and a first doesn’t send out enough salary. Indy had to be including another player, which gets us back to what the sticking point was. The deal would’ve needed to be Turner, McDermott, and a first, but I don’t think Ainge had any interest in McDermott, so to get the deal to Turner and a first they’d need a team willing to take McDermott into cap room, which probably involves another first round pick from Indy or changing McDermott for a player Boston actually wanted. And that’s where we know the deal broke down.
The scuttlebutt the first time we discussed this was that Boston called around the league to see if anyone had any interest in Turner and no one did. So what killed the deal was Pritchard demanding that Boston give him Hayward at the price he needed to take care of Indiana’s luxury tax position and cleaning up the Pacers’ long term payroll issues and thinking that the privilege of paying Turner double the going rate for his skill set was enough returning value.The leak doesn’t make sense. Turner and a first doesn’t send out enough salary. Indy had to be including another player, which gets us back to what the sticking point was. The deal would’ve needed to be Turner, McDermott, and a first, but I don’t think Ainge had any interest in McDermott, so to get the deal to Turner and a first they’d need a team willing to take McDermott into cap room, which probably involves another first round pick from Indy or changing McDermott for a player Boston actually wanted. And that’s where we know the deal broke down.
I bet it was a top 25 protected that turned into seconds. But yeah from the Zach Lowe podcast mention, sounds like the Celtics wanted to flip Turner and were told basically... "yeah we won't give you anything for him" around the league. Which makes sense in a way, because if there was someone willing to pay value for him, Indy would just make that deal to get expirings and picks, send a pick and expirings to the Celtics with maybe one of their young cheap guys and call it a day.The scuttlebutt the first time we discussed this was that Boston called around the league to see if anyone had any interest in Turner and no one did. So what killed the deal was Pritchard demanding that Boston give him Hayward at the price he needed to take care of Indiana’s luxury tax position and cleaning up the Pacers’ long term payroll issues and thinking that the privilege of paying Turner double the going rate for his skill set was enough returning value.
And, to be brutally frank, I don’t believe that Pritchard was offering a first round pick for a moment. Unless it was a top 28 protected pick that turned into a Five Guys gift certificate when it didn’t convey. This is Pritchard trying to blame someone else for fucking the poodle when the hometown hero was signed, sealed, and delivered. But he missed it by that much.
I think the disconnect is that it appears neither Ainge nor the rest of the NBA views Miles Turner at $20m/year as an asset.Pritchard laid an egg. This is the second horeshit leak in the last few days, and they're both transparent AF. Pritch may as well complain that his name isn't on the piece as co-writer.
Maybe not. I could see it either way. He's close to 25 so how much more upside he has is questionable. I couldn't think of someone else off the top of my head. It's hard to find players that fit the bill because most teams are going to keep their young players that are performing and I doubt the C's would want to gamble on Mailk Monk or Mo Bamba, but at the same time aren't going to acquire Jaren Jackson.I don’t think Kennard is that level of asset.
Sign-and-trades must be completed prior to the start of the regular season, as S&T's are not allowed once the season begins.Sorry if this is somewhere in the thread, but is there a hard deadline they're up against to get this done?
do you know how Green's contract works? They don't have to decide until February. So if he makes the team, his contract still isn't guaranteed?Sign-and-trades must be completed prior to the start of the regular season, as S&T's are not allowed once the season begins.
Then there is the 12/1 date for the start of training camp, and the 12/11 date for the start of pre-season games. I would not expect Charlotte to wait much past 12/1, and certainly not past 12/11.
Green's base salary is not-guaranteed. However, all NBA contracts (except 10-day contracts) become guaranteed for the remainder of the season on "cut down day". Normally, the cut down day is 1/10; this season, it is 2/27, with the player needing to be placed on waivers 3 days prior (or 2/24).do you know how Green's contract works? They don't have to decide until February. So if he makes the team, his contract still isn't guaranteed?
Thank youSign-and-trades must be completed prior to the start of the regular season, as S&T's are not allowed once the season begins.
Then there is the 12/1 date for the start of training camp, and the 12/11 date for the start of pre-season games. I would not expect Charlotte to wait much past 12/1, and certainly not past 12/11.
Sign-and-trades must be completed prior to the start of the regular season, as S&T's are not allowed once the season begins.
Then there is the 12/1 date for the start of training camp, and the 12/11 date for the start of pre-season games. I would not expect Charlotte to wait much past 12/1, and certainly not past 12/11.
I forgot to add that there is also a deadline for Charlotte to stretch Batum, which they have to do if they are unable to trade him prior to signing Hayward. Normally, that deadline is 8/31. That deadline is 12/9, which therefore represents the hard deadline for all of this to happen.Thank you
Charlotte would still benefit from getting a couple of second rounders from the C's. Hopefully there is enough good will between Ainge and the Hornets to work something out.Hornets waiving Batum per Shams.
Doesn't kill the S&T obviously, but still...
Just means OKC doesn’t want 2 2nds to take Batum, and no one wants to give value for Rozier/Zeller.Hornets waiving Batum per Shams.
Doesn't kill the S&T obviously, but still...
If there’s not good will, that’s bs. Ainge helped them out with Rozier literally one year ago.Charlotte would still benefit from getting a couple of second rounders from the C's. Hopefully there is enough good will between Ainge and the Hornets to work something out.
Could be up to 32 million.How much does the TPE equate to?
Deleted. Shams has been doing that a lot lately.
View: https://twitter.com/thesteinline/status/1333148632934199297?s=21How much does the TPE equate to?
Whoever this blah player is, he was already rich. This exception can only be used to trade for a player already under contractSome blah player is about to get rich.
Escrow is bigger this year so contracts are imaginary numbers. In future years they may be real numbers. Hayward probably wanted the bigger numbers in the future.Hollinger noted that by stretching Batum, Charlotte had the space to front-loaded Hayward’s deal with 5% decreases instead increases, which would have generated an even larger TPE ($32.5 million) and made things easier for Charlotte going forward with lower cap numbers. Any reason they didn’t want to do that?
View: https://mobile.twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/1333154172586299398
I’m pretty sure that the teams help each other here. At some point, everyone will need it.I don't get why CHA does this. Yes, last year, BOS did something similar in signing and trading Rozier. But creating a huge TPE for a championship contender is far different than giving a smaller one to the lowly Hornets
Something it doesn’t sound like something the C’s and Pacers would have done for one another.I’m pretty sure that the teams help each other here. At some point, everyone will need it.
The disabled player exception is far more limiting. Was only $9 million and could not be used for more than one year (e.g. could only sign a street FA or trade for a player on an expiring deal). Nothing may come of the TPE, of course, but opens up a lot more options.I hope it's worth the two picks. Last time Danny had a big exemption (Hayward injury) he didn't get anything for it, and that could have been used for a free agent, not just in a trade like this.
Because they get two free second round picks?I don't get why CHA does this. Yes, last year, BOS did something similar in signing and trading Rozier. But creating a huge TPE for a championship contender is far different than giving a smaller one to the lowly Hornets
they can always buy 2nd rounders or sign an undrafted rookie.I hope it's worth the two picks. Last time Danny had a big exemption (Hayward injury) he didn't get anything for it, and that could have been used for a free agent, not just in a trade like this.
I'd expect they would use some of it this season (stay under the luxury cap) and use the rest next offseason.The first guy that comes to mind to use the TPE to acquire is Aldridge. If Danny could pull that off, it would be a hell of an upgrade.