I dropped that in some texts to some PSU fans I know...got a variety of reponses...classic, nice job.Good thing he caught it early...maybe he can stop it.
I dropped that in some texts to some PSU fans I know...got a variety of reponses...classic, nice job.Good thing he caught it early...maybe he can stop it.
The Faculty Senate is pushing to hire their own investigators, making sure they have no ties whatsoever to the university.PSU has hired former FBI director Louis Freeh to lead the independent investigation promised by the BOT.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/11/penn-state-independent-investigation-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse-charges/1
Can we assume independence considering he was hired by the University?
Could be, but on the other hand, sometimes when things get bad enough, public relations means actually having to do the right thing.The Faculty Senate is pushing to hire their own investigators, making sure they have no ties whatsoever to the university.
Special Agent Johnson? Or Special Agent Johnson?Could be, but on the other hand, sometimes when things get bad enough, public relations means actually having to do the right thing.
He was an AUSA too, and looking over his history, he's offered to work pro bono on stuff in the past and is the legal rep for some Saudi prince, so I don't see PSU buying him off and there's reason to believe he's got a serious independent streak.
FBI takes crimes against children pretty seriously, so here's to hoping we not gonna need some more FBI guys.
http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/pm_105257/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Rv0v0b7UOfficials at Central Mountain High School in Clinton County weren’t providing guidance for fellow students, who were reacting badly about Joe Paterno’s firing and blaming the 17-year-old, said Mike Gillum, the psychologist helping his family. Those officials were unavailable for comment this weekend.
The name-calling and verbal threats were just too much, he said.
The sooner Sandusky and Paterno die and let that stupid cult die out the better.
I saw that last night and it really depressed me... I hope they're able to convince that kid (and all the others) that outside if their little crazy-town, the rest of the country fully supports themVictim 1, the high school kid who came forward, has had to leave school because of harassment:
http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/pm_105257/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Rv0v0b7U
Oklahoma State, and no, the cult of paterno is by far its own thing.does OSU stand for Ohio State University?
Is this sentiment of a cult-like atmosphere not true of every major college/professional sport?
Not to state the obvious, but what a nightmare the past couple of weeks have been for some of these victims. They have to listen to the perp on national television call them liars, essentially, and watch people in their community fall all over themselves to defend Paterno to the point that some moronic kids think it's OK to blame the victims for his firing. Not to mention Sandusky is still free to walk around.I saw that last night and it really depressed me... I hope they're able to convince that kid (and all the others) that outside if their little crazy-town, the rest of the country fully supports them
Internal emails indicate that former head coach Joe Paterno battled school disciplinary officials over the treatment of football players.
He reportedly suggested that he alone be allowed to punish football players, according to a report by The Wall Street Journal.
The report quotes the university's standards and conduct officer saying that Paterno believed she should have "no interest, (or business) holding our football players accountable to our community standards."
Have you been to PSU or know anyone that did? I just would like to know if you know this from personal experience or based solely on media reports.Oklahoma State, and no, the cult of paterno is by far its own thing.
If Sandusky had merely stuck his weenus in a 10 year old tree on campus, this thread would not exist.Have you been to PSU or know anyone that did? I just would like to know if you know this from personal experience or based solely on media reports.
How did you feel about Eddie Sutton? Did you say he should die after his DUI? Or were your feelings conflicted?
Does everyone truly think that football players are treated the exact same as every other student in any D1 college? If PSU fans can be considered a cult..then so can every major University football program with any kind of a following... did anyone see the 30 for 30 regarding Auburn/Alabama?
Really? You're going with the "Everyone does it" defense? And you say you graduated from college?Have you been to PSU or know anyone that did? I just would like to know if you know this from personal experience or based solely on media reports.
How did you feel about Eddie Sutton? Did you say he should die after his DUI? Or were your feelings conflicted?
Does everyone truly think that football players are treated the exact same as every other student in any D1 college? If PSU fans can be considered a cult..then so can every major University football program with any kind of a following... did anyone see the 30 for 30 regarding Auburn/Alabama?
I don't think the point was that everyone does it so much as that the culture that allowed this to happen exists in a lot of places.Really? You're going with the "Everyone does it" defense? And you say you graduated from college?
Not this. There's a culture that allows for retarded behavior to happen. A DUI (with Sutton) and allowing a predator to roam free are two completely different things, and comparing the behavior of an individual rabid fan (The Auburn Trees) to the expectation of your coach is equally stupid. Or do you mean to tell me that if, say, a random Penn State fan had kept quiet about kiddie rape, you'd all be equally defending him?I don't think the point was that everyone does it so much as that the culture that allowed this to happen exists in a lot of places.
Who's defending Penn State? I'm not. I'm saying that the circumstances that allowed for Sandusky to escape capture for so many years are not unique to Penn State.Not this. There's a culture that allows for retarded behavior to happen. A DUI (with Sutton) and allowing a predator to roam free are two completely different things, and comparing the behavior of an individual rabid fan (The Auburn Trees) to the expectation of your coach is equally stupid. Or do you mean to tell me that if, say, a random Penn State fan had kept quiet about kiddie rape, you'd all be equally defending him?
This might be - when taking all available information into account - the stupidest fucking thing anyone has ever typed.Have you been to PSU or know anyone that did? I just would like to know if you know this from personal experience or based solely on media reports.
How did you feel about Eddie Sutton? Did you say he should die after his DUI? Or were your feelings conflicted?
Does everyone truly think that football players are treated the exact same as every other student in any D1 college? If PSU fans can be considered a cult..then so can every major University football program with any kind of a following... did anyone see the 30 for 30 regarding Auburn/Alabama?
It is sobering how many people at all levels were willing to ignore -- no, pressing others to ignore -- child abuse for the sake of football. The high school had to be dragged kicking and screaming into calling the police.This story about the mom of Victim 1's ordeal that led to her removing her kid from that high school for outing Sandusky is chilling.
Jesus.
They might not be exactly unique to Penn State, but I think you're radically, radically overestimating how many universities would handle this the way Penn State did.Who's defending Penn State? I'm not. I'm saying that the circumstances that allowed for Sandusky to escape capture for so many years are not unique to Penn State.
If by "sobering", you mean "disgraceful on a level that is puke-inducing," then yeah, I agree.It is sobering how many people at all levels were willing to ignore -- no, pressing others to ignore -- child abuse for the sake of football. The high school had to be dragged kicking and screaming into calling the police.
fair enough.This might be - when taking all available information into account - the stupidest fucking thing anyone has ever typed.
That poor kid, not even safe when he was in class, Sandusky was able to get at him anytime he wanted and take him out unsupervised.Yes, so, so many NCAA football programs are the subject of concentric federal and state investigations and have top officials and coaches indicted and/or fired for their role in a massive cover up of a serial pedophile. Happens all the time.
This story about the mom of Victim 1's ordeal that led to her removing her kid from that high school for outing Sandusky is chilling.
Jesus.
Also a story in the NYT about victim one:"The principal just waved it off, saying, 'You know, it's Jerry. He's around the school a lot and talks a lot with Second Mile kids. He has a heart of gold.' I was furious. They were defending this guy."
http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/pm_29239/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=l1MHBFJCBut the Sandusky child sex abuse story has showed the difference between truly protecting the identity of a victim and the fiction of protecting the identity of a victim.
In Wednesday's story in The New York Times, for example, a profile entitled "For a Reported Penn State Victim, a Search for Trust," reporters Nare Schweber and Jo Becker boast that they have interviewed "dozens" of Victim One's friends and teachers. The result is a profile so detailed that, even though they do not name him, googling certain information in the profile results in the young man's name within seconds.
Just when you think this can't get any more depressing...Penn Live story on SFS's note that one of the new alleged victims is a family member: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/attorney_jerry_sandusky_family.html
So... whats the kids name?Edit: Criticism from the Patriot News, which has done a great job covering everything, of the NYT story, saying it makes the victim easily identifiable:
http://mobile.pennlive.com/advpenn/pm_29239/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=l1MHBFJC
First, no way he should be out on bail. The failure of the justice system on this is appalling.how can this guy be out on bail? how can his wife not be culpable/accomplice?
I have never met Dorothy Sandusky, Jerry Sandusky’s wife of four decades, who goes by “Dottie,” nor have I met any of their six grown, adopted children. Yet I feel like I’ve walked in the very painful shoes I imagine they’re walking in today. In the wake of the Penn State allegations, many people are publicly wondering, “Did Dottie know?” And “how could she not know?” I’m sure people wondered that about me, because I wondered it about myself. While I would never be so bold as to presume what Sandusky’s loved ones knew, it seems entirely plausible to me that he was living a “secret life” right under their noses; that he took great pains to hide his alleged abusive behaviors from those closest to him. Sex offenders’ families are often collateral damage to their crimes.
The assaults charged in lawsuit are the earliest yet in the timeline."I am the man in this lawsuit and I'm writing this statement and taking this action because I don't want other kids to be hurt and abused by Jerry Sandusky or anybody like Penn State to allow people like him to do it—rape kids! I never told anybody what he did to me over 100 times at all kinds of places until the newspapers reported that he had abused other kids and the people at Penn State and Second Mile didn't do the things they should have to protect me and the other kids. I am hurting and have been for a long time because of what happened but feel now even more tormented that I have learned of so many other kids were abused after me. Now that I have told and done something about it I am feeling better and going to get help and work with the police. I want other people who have been hurt to know they can come forward and get help and help protect others in the future."
In the suit, the man claims that Sandusky threatened to harm him and his family if he told authorities about the assaults.
PSU pledges $1.5 million of bowl money to sex-crimes advocacy groups
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State will give $1.5 million from its share of postseason bowl revenue to two sex-crimes advocacy groups as it deals with the aftermath of sex abuse allegations against former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. School officials promised the donation Thursday as part of a three-year partnership with the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape and the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.
The money will come from Penn State's share of Big Ten bowl revenue.
University President Rodney Erickson says the scandal illustrates the impact such abuse has not only on individuals, but broader communities.
The Sandusky scandal resulted in the departures of coach Joe Paterno and university President Graham Spanier. Sandusky has acknowledged showering with young boys but says he never sexually abused them.
"Wow! The horse is gone! May as well close the barn door!"cbssports
PSU pledges $1.5 million of bowl money to sex-crimes advocacy groups
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State will give $1.5 million from its share of postseason bowl revenue to two sex-crimes advocacy groups as it deals with the aftermath of sex abuse allegations against former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. School officials promised the donation Thursday as part of a three-year partnership with the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape and the National Sexual Violence Resource Center.
The money will come from Penn State's share of Big Ten bowl revenue.
University President Rodney Erickson says the scandal illustrates the impact such abuse has not only on individuals, but broader communities.
Is this analysis?Penn State may need to save their money...can you find a buyer for college buildings? Doubtful you can turn a library into a Greek church...the Catholics had it easy...
Why is he talking to the national press about his dog of all things?http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45533539/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/
This guy is twisted - and I am amazed his attorney is letting him talk like this. It's like he's more concerned with PR and his reputation than going to jail forever.
Not knowing the situation, this is what I guessed Sandusky's motive was. Knowing your abuser is willing to call you a liar publicly will deter some victims from coming forward.In Harrisburg, that's the thought. His lawyer is on TV pretty much every day saying the kids still talk to Sandusky, call him often, are all still friends.
My judge friend thinks its a smokescreen to keep him out of jail for the time being, keep delaying the hearing and limit the number of new accusations.
His lawyer has pissed off pretty much all the state AG office, I do know that.
Former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno had close business ties with board members of The Second Mile, the charity founded by alleged child molester and former Nittany Lions assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, the online publication The Daily reported.
Paterno and three fellow investors, including longtime Second Mile board chairman Robert Poole, secured financing to build a $125 million luxury retirement community around 2002, according to public records, The Daily reported Monday.
Paterno was partnered with that team of investors in developing a golf resort and nearby restaurant and inn, The Daily reported. Paterno also partnered with other current and former Second Mile board members on a bottled water company, a coaching website and a chain of convenience stores, according to the report.