Wright: It's just really frustrating for me sometimes to see...Carter absolutely destroyed that clown.
Carter: Why is it frustrating for YOU?
Greatness.
Wright: It's just really frustrating for me sometimes to see...Carter absolutely destroyed that clown.
Tieing in two thoughts (bolded) re the Bouye/ Cooks PI call, 1) the play happened directly in front of the ref. He saw the play clearly and there was no hesitation as he reaches for his flag immediately when he saw Bouye push Cooks OOB. He called what he saw.Blandino on NFL radio today. Paraphrasing.
Three of Jags' penalties were at the line. Obvious. No discretion or judgment. One was a personal foul, and it was clear.
So, you're talking about two PI calls. Blandino thought one was clear and one was "50/50." Tough line between defender holding position and impeding. I think someone -- maybe Blandino maybe one of the studio guys -- mentioned that no looking for the ball makes it easier for the offensive player to sell a foul.
Interesting discussion on the Jack being down -- Blandino said it was bang/bang, often called down. He didn't get into any type of rules analysis. Bruce Murray asked whether the presumption should be to let the play play out, since once you blow the whistle it's over. Blandino said it's a balance -- you want officiating that permits replay to do its job but you also have to train officials to call what they see and not be tentative because of reply and fail to call what they see. (He didn't say this, but I think he might also have been sort of implying that because the call on the field gets deference on review you can't just let every play get run.)
The officials all have their own tendencies, regardless of crew. Some back judges throw more PI than others, etc. Some umpires are more flag happy on holding calls than others. That sort of thing. I’m not sure Ernie has a complex formula or anything like that to determine optimal game plans with officials factored in, but I’d be stunned if the team (or any team, really) didn’t have a scouting report on each official in the league. It is useful information to have.Analysing a crew during the regular season makes sense and I am sure all teams make note of tendencies of crews; and if they didn’t they are stupid.
But in the playoffs, these are “all star teams” of referees, put together as individuals who had great seasons and are rewarded by gaining a playoff game. The result? There is no crew of referees for the playoffs. You can’t analyse a crew of referees and their tendencies for a playoff game because they are literally not a crew. They have never been together before. Which further proves the point we are all making: this myth of the Patriots exercising some Svengali like hold on the NFL is just an excuse for fans of opposing teams to explain away their own teams’ failure.
As Cris Carter says in one of the other clips...it's okay with Bouye's left hand on Cooks, because they're doing it to each other. When his right hand pushes him in the shoulder and forces him OOB the defense gains a clear advantage. That's a penalty.Tieing in two thoughts (bolded) re the Bouye/ Cooks PI call, 1) the play happened directly in front of the ref. He saw the play clearly and there was no hesitation as he reaches for his flag immediately when he saw Bouye push Cooks OOB. He called what he saw.
Very true. There have been a lot of unwatchable Super Bowls. All of the Cowboys ones from the 90s, the Broncos getting thrashed repeatedly in the 80s, Giants-Ravens, Bucs-Raiders, etc.I understand the nation's desire to "see someone else" in the Super Bowl. But how quickly they forget that the 7 Super Bowls the Pats have been in within this run have to all be in the Top 15 Super Bowls from an entertainment stance. I started watching from late the late 1970s and feel they make that cut. Hell, most of the Pats Super Bowls are in the top ten and some are even top 5. You may hate them but these games are all fun to watch.
Careful what you wish for, Nation, or we'll give you back your Tampa Bay 48 - Raiders 21 kind of game that is boring as shit.
...enough to kill a man?Is anyone else watching Inside the NFL? Ray Lewis seems very upset.
Looks like there have been 19 one-score Super Bowls and 7 of those are the B-B Patriots.Very true. There have been a lot of unwatchable Super Bowls. All of the Cowboys ones from the 90s, the Broncos getting thrashed repeatedly in the 80s, Giants-Ravens, Bucs-Raiders, etc.
70s too ... AFC dominance thenSuper Bowls were typically so boring in the 80s and early 90s that my father always asked me why I was bothering because the game was always so bad. It was a cliche for awhile that Super Bowls were shitty games.
Pats v. Bears game was worst lost ever.Very true. There have been a lot of unwatchable Super Bowls. All of the Cowboys ones from the 90s, the Broncos getting thrashed repeatedly in the 80s, Giants-Ravens, Bucs-Raiders, etc.
Giants-Ravens had those 3 TDs in one minute. Maybe I just have a soft spot for it because it was the first Super Bowl I watched.Very true. There have been a lot of unwatchable Super Bowls. All of the Cowboys ones from the 90s, the Broncos getting thrashed repeatedly in the 80s, Giants-Ravens, Bucs-Raiders, etc.
I’ll admit the back-to-back kickoff return TDs were fun. But watching Kerry Collins disintegrate for 4 quarters wasn’t all that entertaining.Giants-Ravens had those 3 TDs in one minute. Maybe I just have a soft spot for it because it was the first Super Bowl I watched.
Colts/Bears was surprisingly compelling for most of the game. The result was not compelling, however.There has been an almost unprecedented run of games being competitive at least into the 4th quarter since 2001, with the exception of the blowouts in 37 and 48. Even somewhat dull games like Colts/Bears and Steelers/Seahawks were within one score as the 4th began.
Either you started watching football later in life or you're not nearly as old as I thought you were!Giants-Ravens had those 3 TDs in one minute. Maybe I just have a soft spot for it because it was the first Super Bowl I watched.
HAL was activated in 2001.Either you started watching football later in life or you're not nearly as old as I thought you were!
This. You can tell by where the ref moved the flag to mark the foul that the ref thought the second hand on Cooks was a sign of the foul. It also makes intuitive sense - ref sees one hand on the offensive player and he's more inclined to let it slide. Once that second hand goes on, he better be playing the ball at that point. It's close because Bouye turns his head shortly after making contact with his second hand, but the ref clearly had his cues and made the call.As Cris Carter says in one of the other clips...it's okay with Bouye's left hand on Cooks, because they're doing it to each other. When his right hand pushes him in the shoulder and forces him OOB the defense gains a clear advantage. That's a penalty.
Pause that clip at 37 seconds and Bouye has 2 hands on Cooks and is not looking for the ball.
Thanks for that -- I had wondered slightly why the ref moved the flag; now it is clear.This. You can tell by where the ref moved the flag to mark the foul that the ref thought the second hand on Cooks was a sign of the foul. It also makes intuitive sense - ref sees one hand on the offensive player and he's more inclined to let it slide. Once that second hand goes on, he better be playing the ball at that point. It's close because Bouye turns his head shortly after making contact with his second hand, but the ref clearly had his cues and made the call.
It amazes me that so many are unable compartmentalize sports and politics. Sports are supposed to be an escape.New York Times - Frank Bruni
The Existential Hell of This Year’s Super Bowl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/patriots-super-bowl.html?smid=fb-share
See, now this is an important question left unanswered. What was the movie? Was it this one?Looks like there have been 19 one-score Super Bowls and 7 of those are the B-B Patriots.
I remember SB XI (Raiders 32 Vikings 14) was so boring my brother and I switched the channel for awhile and watched some movie about a singing milkman.
It's pretty rich to whine (with as many one-dollar words and metaphors as possible) about the Patriots' success representing income inequality, when they play in a league with a hard salary cap. For all his over-education, Bruni hasn't read Harrison Bergeron?New York Times - Frank Bruni
The Existential Hell of This Year’s Super Bowl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/patriots-super-bowl.html?smid=fb-share
So disappointing. The only part of that article that wasn't a complete WOFTAM (waste of effing time and money) was the comments section, where so many people had strong words for Bruni about conflating football and politics, or implying that football is unfair. Good read.New York Times - Frank Bruni
The Existential Hell of This Year’s Super Bowl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/patriots-super-bowl.html?smid=fb-share
I thought James Brown had a great reaction to the B.S.Is anyone else watching Inside the NFL? Ray Lewis seems very upset.
added to my lexiconWOFTAM (waste of effing time and money)
He's not going to watch the Superbowl because he dislikes someone not even tangentially involved with either team. Good to know.It's pretty rich to whine (with as many one-dollar words and metaphors as possible) about the Patriots' success representing income inequality, when they play in a league with a hard salary cap. For all his over-education, Bruni hasn't read Harrison Bergeron?
I was wrong about it being the first one I watched, I had watched the Rams win the season before.Either you started watching football later in life or you're not nearly as old as I thought you were!
Also not sure why it’s the Eagles’ fault they have meathead fans.He's not going to watch the Superbowl because he dislikes someone not even tangentially involved with either team. Good to know.
Then you probably remember the Ravens’ TD drought in 2000 that lasted 5 consecutive games. No TDs on offense. Record during that span — 2 and 3. Talk about a skewed perspective on this game.I was wrong about it being the first one I watched, I had watched the Rams win the season before.
My family never watched football when I was growing up in Maine, college was too busy and in a bubble (I was in Pittsburgh and didn't even know the Steelers were in the Super Bowl until after the game in 1996), and my first job after college was in South America.
It wasn't until I moved to the DC area and football was the only thing people talked about on Mondays during the season that I ever watched a full NFL game. When the Pats didn't get a national broadcast I ended up watching Washington and Baltimore (local broadcasts) a lot while coming up to speed on the sport c. 1999-2001.
I can’t stand Drumpf either but that’s not gonna stop me from watching the Pats crush Philly.He's not going to watch the Superbowl because he dislikes someone not even tangentially involved with either team. Good to know.
Yep. And it seemed like every other game the offense would turn over the ball deep in their own territory and the defense would proceed to sack the opposition backward out of FG range.Then you probably remember the Ravens’ TD drought in 2000 that lasted 5 consecutive games. No TDs on offense. Record during that span — 2 and 3. Talk about a skewed perspective on this game.
One dollar words? Do you mean ten dollar words?It's pretty rich to whine (with as many one-dollar words and metaphors as possible) about the Patriots' success representing income inequality, when they play in a league with a hard salary cap. For all his over-education, Bruni hasn't read Harrison Bergeron?
This video from NFL Network's Turning Point has some good angles. I think it is really at 1:14 where the defensive PI is called. Bouye has both arms wrapped around Cooks and isn't looking for the ball. Seems pretty clear to me.As Cris Carter says in one of the other clips...it's okay with Bouye's left hand on Cooks, because they're doing it to each other. When his right hand pushes him in the shoulder and forces him OOB the defense gains a clear advantage. That's a penalty.
Pause that clip at 37 seconds and Bouye has 2 hands on Cooks and is not looking for the ball.
"They shamelessly hoard glory."New York Times - Frank Bruni
The Existential Hell of This Year’s Super Bowl
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/opinion/patriots-super-bowl.html?smid=fb-share
Speaking of movies, any guesses on what the inspirational film BB will show the team in the days before the game?Looks like there have been 19 one-score Super Bowls and 7 of those are the B-B Patriots.
I remember SB XI (Raiders 32 Vikings 14) was so boring my brother and I switched the channel for awhile and watched some movie about a singing milkman.
Hilarious. Imagine the death stare from BB when asked about it in a presser."They shamelessly hoard glory."
What, we're supposed to share? Are we supposed to call the Jets and say, 'hey, we're not using a few of the Lombardi's this weekend, want to have a parade or something with them?'
What a crock of shit.
Fortunately, it's from an objective source like the NYT, and they know how altruistic the MFY fanbase got from 1995 to 2003."They shamelessly hoard glory."
What, we're supposed to share? Are we supposed to call the Jets and say, 'hey, we're not using a few of the Lombardi's this weekend, want to have a parade or something with them?'
What a crock of shit.