After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply:I have no idea what the fuck just happened. If I were a Baltimore fan, I'd be losing my goddamned mind about that timeout. Can someone look up the rule and explain if it's a dead ball, does the injury still cause the timeout to be used?
Yea. They said it on the broadcast twice. And it’s been answered here several times. If the medical team goes on the field in that situation you lose the timeout.I have no idea what the fuck just happened. If I were a Baltimore fan, I'd be losing my goddamned mind about that timeout. Can someone look up the rule and explain if it's a dead ball, does the injury still cause the timeout to be used?
Thank you for this. I can't believe I've never seen that come into play before. I've seen it happen plenty of times when the clock is running and a guy gets hurt, but I can't remember a team burning a timeout on a dead ball like this before, but the rule is the rule. Stupid as it is.After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply:
a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout,
unless:
1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent;
2) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a successful field goal, or an attempted try
It's either you take the timeout or a 10-second runoff I believe.Yea. They said it on the broadcast twice. And it’s been answered here several times. If the medical team goes on the field in that situation you lose the timeout.
But... why?Yea. They said it on the broadcast twice. And it’s been answered here several times. If the medical team goes on the field in that situation you lose the timeout.
That's actually correct, having looked it up. From the NFL Rulebook:I have no idea what the fuck just happened. If I were a Baltimore fan, I'd be losing my goddamned mind about that timeout. Can someone look up the rule and explain if it's a dead ball, does the injury still cause the timeout to be used?
It's to stop the phantom injuries that teams may take to slow down the game.But... why?
I think the idea behind it is, even if the clock is stopped you are basically preventing the offense from rushing to the line/giving your D a breather.Thank you for this. I can't believe I've never seen that come into play before. I've seen it happen plenty of times when the clock is running and a guy gets hurt, but I can't remember a team burning a timeout on a dead ball like this before, but the rule is the rule. Stupid as it is.
They were on offense.I think the idea behind it is, even if the clock is stopped you are basically preventing the offense from rushing to the line/giving your D a breather.
There’s no run off if clock is stopped. The run off is to stop teams from stopping clock by faking injury.It's either you take the timeout or a 10-second runoff I believe.
Stop. They applied the rule correctly.But it's not an "injury timeout." It's an injury, during a dead ball. Does that rule still apply?
Look at the bolded words:That's actually correct, having looked it up. From the NFL Rulebook:
ARTICLE 4. INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF
After the two-minute warning of a half, the following shall apply:
- If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout, unless:
- the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent
- the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a touchdown, a safety, a successful field goal, or an attempted Try
Nobody's saying otherwise. Do we need your permission to discuss whether we like the rule?Stop. They applied the rule correctly.
You don’t like the rule. That’s fine. We get it
But they applied the rule as written.
Course not. But the discussion was whether or not it was applied correctlyNobody's saying otherwise. Do we need your permission to discuss whether we like the rule?
Yeah, I just meant the rule was obviously intended for when the D fakes an injury. Don’t really get why it doesnt distinguish between offense and defense.They were on offense.
If they have to stop the play clock because there's an injured player on the field it's an injury time out.Look at the bolded words:
ARTICLE 4. INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF
My point is that it's not an "injury timeout." The ref didn't blow the whistle due to the injury. The whistle blew and the clock stopped as a result of the play. I know i would have seen this before. Something is not right.
Okay, okay, we'll say it: BECAUSE OF WILLIE MCGINEST. Satisfied?But... why?
Yeah, and if the player can't get off the field on his own, you can't opt to let the play clock expire to take the delay of game penalty.If they have to stop the play clock because there's an injured player on the field it's an injury time out.
Not to mention the footwork of a water buffalo on the sidelinesMaclin costs his team a vital timeout for an "injury" that he got over so fast he was back in on the next play.
Time to put his helmet on the field.Wentz out for the season
Thank you. I didn’t wanna be the asshole and say this first. He was absolutely hamming it up because he didn’t catch the ball.Maclin costs his team a vital timeout for an "injury" that he got over so fast he was back in on the next play.
Ok, so it's the play clock that determines that it's an "injury timeout," not the game clock. That's the distinction I was trying to find.If they have to stop the play clock because there's an injured player on the field it's an injury time out.
Haven’t seen this confirmes. Rapshit mentioned tests indicate possible partial tear, not sure if he could rest and gut it out. Tannehill tried that, didn’t end so well...Wentz out for the season
Ted Ginn cost New Orleans a timeout in the game Thursday for the same reason, and it would have been huge if they still had it at the time.Thank you. I didn’t wanna be the asshole and say this first. He was absolutely hamming it up because he didn’t catch the ball.
But... the clock was already stopped... so the only worth in a fake injury would be to buy the offense some extra time to huddle up beyond the usual play clock time. But then the offensive player would have to leave the game. Seems like a horrible trade-off that nobody would take.To prevent fake injuries stopping the clock.
The Jags? I'd almost agree, but there's no way Bottles can execute a check to hand the ball off the way the 15 Broncos could.2015 Broncos all over again.
Minnesota?The Wentz injury is so, so, so huge.
If he’s out and either the Patriots or the Steelers don’t win the Super Bowl, someone fucked up hard somewhere along the way.
The Wentz injury is so, so, so huge.
If he’s out and either the Patriots or the Steelers don’t win the Super Bowl, someone fucked up hard somewhere along the way.