Week 14 NFL Game Thread

johnmd20

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The Wentz injury is so, so, so huge.

If he’s out and either the Patriots or the Steelers don’t win the Super Bowl, someone fucked up hard somewhere along the way.
This is such a hot take, terrible post and I know it's a game thread, but it hurts my soul to read such ridiculousness.

Are you suggesting Minnesota, the Rams, the Eagles and the Saints simply have no chance against the AFC participant, who is now guaranteed to be the Steelers or the Patriots? No matter what?

Awful, awful post. I award you zero points and may god have mercy on your soul.
 

CoffeeNerdness

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Just a month or so after Russell Wilson and the Seahawks gave the middle finger to the concussion protocol, Tom Savage was allowed back on the field after getting pummeled so badly he did the involuntary fencing pose and was seen spitting up blood. The concussion protocol continues to be a joke. Disgusting.
 

DanoooME

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Why can't the NFL pass a rule to prevent what Michael Bennett was trying to do at the end of the game with messing with the snap? Why don't players try that before the end of the game? I can't find anything in the rulebook specifically forbidding it, but just pass a rule saying defensive players can't attempt to interfere with the process of the snap and make it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which counts towards ejection. Justify it by claiming it will help prevent injury. Because it's obvious Pete doesn't want to stop it and Bennett certainly can't help himself.
 

Bleedred

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Just a month or so after Russell Wilson and the Seahawks gave the middle finger to the concussion protocol, Tom Savage was allowed back on the field after getting pummeled so badly he did the involuntary fencing pose and was seen spitting up blood. The concussion protocol continues to be a joke. Disgusting.
Yes, but the NFL just signed a $500 Million deal with Verizon for streaming of NFL games, so Goodell has done his job and the concussion protocol can wait.
 

DJnVa

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The current starting QBs of the top 3 seeds in the NFC are Nick Foles, Jared Goff, and Case Keenum.

Otherwise known as "The LA Rams QB depth chart before the 2016 season"
 

Whiteroom802

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I'm pretty sure that if we saw inside the 'Concussion Protocol' exam tent, we'd see a team trainer with smelling salts. Obviously no one with medical training is checking for concussions.
 

edmunddantes

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Why can't the NFL pass a rule to prevent what Michael Bennett was trying to do at the end of the game with messing with the snap? Why don't players try that before the end of the game? I can't find anything in the rulebook specifically forbidding it, but just pass a rule saying defensive players can't attempt to interfere with the process of the snap and make it a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which counts towards ejection. Justify it by claiming it will help prevent injury. Because it's obvious Pete doesn't want to stop it and Bennett certainly can't help himself.
I didn't see the game, but what was Bennett doing to mess with the snap?

It's already illegal to simulate the snap count. It's just impossible for the refs to police because of positioning.
 

KiltedFool

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stolen from Football Outsiders, who pasted PFT commentator:

This, from PFT Commentator is perfect:

"The NFL concussion protocol would of cleared JFK to reenter the parade"
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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I didn't see the game, but what was Bennett doing to mess with the snap?

It's already illegal to simulate the snap count. It's just impossible for the refs to police because of positioning.
The Jags were in kneel down formation with Seattle out of time outs. The Seahawks did the same thing they did in Superbowl 49 where they attempted to bullrush the kneeldown snap to I guess force a fumble. But Bennett appeared deliberately to try to take out the center's (I think it was the center) knees by rolling into him -- pinning down the lower leg while he backrolled over him. The worst part maybe was that when the Center got out of it, Bennett went after him again and appeared to try to roll over the back of his legs. It was Gronk bad. Pretty deliberate attempt to injure at least once maybe twice..
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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But not in overtime, right? Because the Bills didn’t, I think anyway.
Right. I think the rationale for forcing teams into trying an extra point in regulation is that there could theoretically be a case in which the defense scores on a failed try, whereas a touchdown in overtime ends the game. Of course, in any case in which a defensive score on a failed point(s) after TD attempt could tie or win the game (team up by 1 or 2), the scoring team can simply tell the refs they are trying a two point conversion and then kneel down. So, it's silly. It's especially silly where the team that scored to end the game is up by three or more points.
 

BigJimEd

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I didn't see it either but I don't think there is anything illegal with the bullrush. The reason it isn't done more during a game is that it can take you out of the play quickly if you are lunging and off balance.

I did see a very short clip of him rolling on the side of the O lineman's leg. From the bit I saw that should be a suspension.
 

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Right. I think the rationale for forcing teams into trying an extra point in regulation is that there could theoretically be a case in which the defense scores on a failed try, whereas a touchdown in overtime ends the game. Of course, in any case in which a defensive score on a failed point(s) after TD attempt could tie or win the game (team up by 1 or 2), the scoring team can simply tell the refs they are trying a two point conversion and then kneel down. So, it's silly. It's especially silly where the team that scored to end the game is up by three or more points.
Well, aren't points-for somewhere along the chain of determining tie-breakers?
I remember a game in I think 1998 where the Pats beat the Bills, and the Patriots ran it in for two against zero defenders after Buffalo left the field in protest over a shitty call with no time left in regulation.
 

Red Right Ankle

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But... the clock was already stopped... so the only worth in a fake injury would be to buy the offense some extra time to huddle up beyond the usual play clock time. But then the offensive player would have to leave the game. Seems like a horrible trade-off that nobody would take.

Put in another way, it makes no sense applying the rule to a team on offense in a clock stoppage situation. It's a bad rule because it is not specific enough. It should only apply when the injury actually stops the clock.
If the guy you are losing is someone who you would have been substituting out anyways, it might not be. If your suggestion was the rule, you know coaches would have a guy or two designated to fake an injury in these situations, so they could take more time to communicate about the play with the QB.
 

DJnVa

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Dumb questions about the snow game.

If the snow is, say, 4-6 inches deep on the field--is the top level of snow considered the ground? Could a pass sit on top of the snow and not be incomplete? If it is incomplete, is a player also down when his knee touches the snow?
 

moondog80

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Dumb questions about the snow game.

If the snow is, say, 4-6 inches deep on the field--is the top level of snow considered the ground? Could a pass sit on top of the snow and not be incomplete? If it is incomplete, is a player also down when his knee touches the snow?
I would think snow=ground, right? Since you will never be able to see the actual ground?
 

luckiestman

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Dumb questions about the snow game.

If the snow is, say, 4-6 inches deep on the field--is the top level of snow considered the ground? Could a pass sit on top of the snow and not be incomplete? If it is incomplete, is a player also down when his knee touches the snow?


How bored are you right now?
 

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SAS may be a Steelers fan, but he is a big fan of Tom Brady too. Guy can't say enough good things about him.

His baiting of Max Kellerman here was pretty solid content, though, by the standards of "people yelling at each other on TV".