He didn't say anything about Malcolm Butler.Butler was, as I assume you know, an UDFA. I think you mean the 2015 rookie class...and it was.
He didn't say anything about Malcolm Butler.Butler was, as I assume you know, an UDFA. I think you mean the 2015 rookie class...and it was.
It wasn't fighting but Rowe took a huge penalty in the playoffs this year against Houston when he pulled a Texans player off the pile, which I believe cost the Patriots 3 points. I know Belichick was livid and about as mad as I can remember seeing him.I love this. BB levying consequences swiftly for something that might have a minimal impact on a regular season game (i.e., firing up an opponent) or a more measurable impact (15 yard penalty/ejection). Stomp out bad habits early. Always be disciplined.
I'm cool either way. Butler has some snarl to him, I'd like Gilmore wired the same way. Being physical at the line with WR is always a good thing for me.As long as Edelman "started it", my opinion of Gilmore just went up.
Lets not forget Rodney's first training camp with the Pats. He turned out ok!I'm cool either way. Butler has some snarl to him, I'd like Gilmore wired the same way. Being physical at the line with WR is always a good thing for me.
He was on Sirius NFL Radio yesterday and sounded different than that first sound bite/quote portrayed him.Lots of positive chatter about Ealy today.
This is a really good point. And the bolded is something that didn't really occur to me. There are plenty of good coaches. But there's only one who has that. BB has coached a great or near-great Patriot team every single year since this year's draftees were 5 years old or so.I would go a step... not further, but, in a Belichickian direction?
I think, as many here do obviously, that many of his statements about the team are actually too the team.
One thing that the guys in those draft classes share is that they grew up in their football lives seeing Belichick as a football god. They might not even have liked him, but then he's just Aries instead of Athena.
But, like, think about it, what it means to them to hear that. That they're Belichick guys. That they're Patriots.
Belichick wants another back-to-back. And this kind of talk? They'll go to war for him.
And he did it to one guy who they just gave a shit-ton of money to, an another who is a long time vet- which puts to bed any sort of idea that the stars get preferential treatment.I love this. BB levying consequences swiftly for something that might have a minimal impact on a regular season game (i.e., firing up an opponent) or a more measurable impact (15 yard penalty/ejection). Stomp out bad habits early. Always be disciplined.
Coupled with the Ealy tangle at jump, Belichick growing up around Navy and how they approach group cohesion, I sorta figure they look at all these things happening early as opportunity both to figure their guys out and to instill discipline.And he did it to one guy who they just gave a shit-ton of money to, an another who is a long time vet- which puts to bed any sort of idea that the stars get preferential treatment.
And yeah, I love Edelman, but he's totally a dick, and most likely deserved whatever he got.
According to numerous people on Twitter, Hogan returned to the field with an ice pack taped to knee (obviously not participating in drills). A while later he removed the ice pack. Doesn't sound like anything serious.Hogan and Slater both left practice with injuries today
I'd agree, if not for the fact that I'm sure Bill probably long ago made the point to the vets that they need to generate some bs on their own, so he can make these points without having to explicitly stage anything.Heck, I wouldn't put it past Bill to stage something if the guys didn't generate some bs on their own just for the chance to make these kinds of points.
Hogan looks to be fine as he said it was precautionary that he iced his knee up. Edelman also looked to be slowed by injury(or could be just general camp soreness if you ask me) during practice according to beat guys.Hogan and Slater both left practice with injuries today
This article describes something a little different - trying to fire up players midseason when they've gotten stale or flat. There's no reason to do that this time of year, when they've been in camp like a week and are a month away from a game that matters.https://www.boston.com/sports/extra-points/2011/11/04/eatons_pay-to-f
I love Bill Belichick in an unhealthy way, but the evidence points to him staging fights.
If he were talking strictly about the players buying in to the team philosophy it's not hard to think he was talking about 16 and 17 with the additional caveat that he considers the 17 draft class to include players that the team acquired by trading picks (Cooks, Ealy, Allen, Gillislee).I didnt hear the SiriusXM interview, but I would guess "last two draft classes" meant '15 and '16 if the context didnt clearly state otherwise. He just went on a rant last week about how we dont know shit about anything yet because the team hasnt had real practices, Id be mildly surprised if he was talking up the '17 draft class buy in already.
Bedard did a chat today on BSJ and said that Ealy would not make the team if cuts were made today.Lots of positive chatter about Ealy today.
I don't think BB starts or stages fights per se, but just that I'm sure there are ways of demonstrating rather than just describing the standards.Yeah I dont think he'd be touting those guys buy-in either before training camp.
I know about the Eaton anecdote (didnt remember the player, but knew that anecdote was out there). I think BB operates differently in 2017 than in 2001. That described situation was a little different too.
Could be wrong on both counts.
I think it's most likely that BB knows subtle ways of clearly and dramatically establishing norms and the culture of discipline he wants while maintaining the standard of treating everyone the equally from Annapolis, which I am sure is full of such traditions--some of which we already know he employs.I'd agree, if not for the fact that I'm sure Bill probably long ago made the point to the vets that they need to generate some bs on their own, so he can make these points without having to explicitly stage anything.
I feel like Littlefinger's advice to Sansa this past Sunday was cribbed from a Belichick speech.
I'd agree, if not for the fact that I'm sure Bill probably long ago made the point to the vets that they need to generate some bs on their own, so he can make these points without having to explicitly stage anything.
This is tough to handicap. Rivers and Wise are presumably roster locks, but it's unclear whether either will be able to contribute much early on - look at the 2015 class where they drafted Grissom and Flowers in a similar range, but neither factored in as rookies. A lot is going to depend on what kind of defensive front they run. Ealy is kind of a pure 4-3 end, but they may decide to replace Ninkovich more with a LB / edge tweener like Van Noy, McClellin, or Langi, and run more of a 3-4ish concept. Nominally they've been a 4-3 in recent years, but Nink lining up at one edge spot gave them the option of dropping him and running games and blitzes using other players. On the other, other hand, just because Ealy didn't drop into coverage much in Carolina doesn't mean he can't - witness his interception in the Super Bowl a couple years ago. There's a pretty big range of potential outcomes here.Bedard did a chat today on BSJ and said that Ealy would not make the team if cuts were made today.
As someone that tends to give Skip the benefit of the doubt because he's often had that Pats' backs whenever ridiculous controversy unfolds, I wonder what's bringing him to say this?Skip Bayless hot take:
Man, if only 10% of your posts could actually have some kind of human quality to them, you'd be an infinitely more interesting read on SoSH.You shouldn't drink so early in the day.
He already has more wins than Peyton, but I know you are referring to regular season.Brady is closing in on a lot of Peyton records. It would be kinda nice to pass him before retiring...I'm petty like that.
- 4 wins and he's got more than Peyton
- 83 TD's below Peyton (unlikely to pass him unless he goes 3 more)
- 10358 Yards below Manning (Would need 2+ years to pass)
I feel like 3 is asking too much.He already has more wins than Peyton, but I know you are referring to regular season.
3 years seems like the perfect amount, he can break the yardage and TD records. Of course Brees might have something to say about that too
By all accounts, Eric Rowe (playing largely in the slot) has been terrific in camp so far. Several INTs and pass breakups so far and shutting guys down all over the place.Who are some of the guys who reportedly have looked better than expected during camp? I've seen some good stuff about Wise - anyone else?
Which is all great and valid, but Brady has no comp in any player they have ever had - in stature, performance or significance to the organization.I can take a good joke, I just struggle the old and tired, "I don't agree with your point, so [insert pot shot here]," as opposed to engaging in meaningful dialogue.
Of course, it's hard to argue that what you're saying is the most plausible and easy-to-predict scenario. But we've also never seen the team handle someone quite of Brady's stature at the end of their careers. In the past, when "the time" has come, BB has pulled popular players aside and had the retirement and/or trade discussion with impunity as it pertains to ownership. Given the way the organization (at least from BB down to Brady himself) has preached consistency and level expectations for everyone that steps on the field, there's a part of me that thinks Brady wouldn't expect nor receive special treatment when it comes to decisions that are made in the best interest of the team.
I mean, I'm sure everyone involved would pause to think long and hard about everything, because when he retires or in the unlikely situation that he's released or traded a media circus would follow. But one way or another, in a year or five years from now, Brady's career is going to end. We all know this. The question is who's the one pulling the trigger on that, and timing is everything.