Annual reminder that spring training stats and performances mean nothing.
Annual reminder that spring training stats and performances mean nothing.
Well, sure, but in the context that he's a young, highly regarded prospect with expectations to be an everyday MLB first baseman at some point soon, I think the spring training start is, at the very least, allowing us to "be excited" a little earlier than we might otherwise. He's not giving anyone any reason to think he'll suddenly stink.Annual reminder that spring training stats and performances mean nothing.
Killjoy!!Annual reminder that spring training stats and performances mean nothing.
He's also a fairly important piece of the team's decision-making going forward. The best-case scenario for the team involves a) Mitch Moreland and Pablo Sandoval being decent options for 2017 and b) Sam Travis and Rafael Devers being ready to hold down 1B and 3B, respectively, as early as Opening Day 2018 (with what's left of Sandoval in the mix, as well).Killjoy!!
Part of what makes Spring Training fun is when a touted hitting prospect launches a few out of the yard, especially when said prospect had his promising first AAA season cut short due to a freak injury. Sure, the predictive value is very low, but that doesn't make it any less interesting or exciting.
Looking forward to seeing what he can do at McCoy.
Nobody should have any reason to expect that he'll suddenly stink.Well, sure, but in the context that he's a young, highly regarded prospect with expectations to be an everyday MLB first baseman at some point soon, I think the spring training start is, at the very least, allowing us to "be excited" a little earlier than we might otherwise. He's not giving anyone any reason to think he'll suddenly stink.
I would disagree that excitement isn't warranted. As long as it's based in reality and not on single-game events, and I believe most here are basing their excitement on Travis's past performance and bounce back from ACL surgery, which is reality. His home run is just the most recent data point, and further evidence that he's closer to being fully recovered and back on the road to being the starting first baseman for the Boston Red Sox in the near future.Nobody should have any reason to expect that he'll suddenly stink.
But his performance in ST still means nothing and doesn't warrant excitement...or do I have to bring up Grady Sizemore again?
Listen, there's no reason not to be excited about a young prospect. However, that's not the point.I don't see the Grady Sizemore comparison. Sizemore had microfracture surgery and back surgery within a 7 month period and was 31 years old when he signed with the Sox. He had already logged almost 10 years as a MLB player when he debuted for Boston in 2014. No doubt, he sucked. Travis is 23 and had ACL surgery, which does not compare to microfracture surgery, let alone having microfracture surgery 7 months prior to back surgery and attempting a comeback from both in an old body.
Anyway I, too, find myself excited about Travis and wonder what might happen with him if Hanley can't throw a baseball more than 60 feet before the end of camp. Might the Sox need another first baseman, or would they let Moreland have the position, platoon be damned?
I think there's a word for thatYou can continue to say the same stuff over again, but it's not going to change my position.
To be fair, while we shouldn't allow ourselves to get carried away by a handful of spring ABs, it is not true that the results of spring training have been shown to be "completely irrelevant." It has been shown repeatedly that some very specific numbers could have some slight predictive/inferential power even in small samples:Listen, there's no reason not to be excited about a young prospect. However, that's not the point.
Also, picking apart the differences between Player A off injury in ST and Player B off injury in ST is the pure essence of nitpicking. We all know the Travis and Sizemore situations aren't the same. The point is to not get excited over spring training results in games where you don't know what players are giving 100%, if any pitchers are experimenting/rehabbing/working on something specific, any and all kinds of strategy isn't a factor, and the games literally do not matter.
Be excited because Sam Travis looks like he's recovered and he could fill a spot of potential need soon. Don't be excited because he hits .330 with power for a month where the results have been proven hundreds of times over to be completely irrelevant.
Do you want to show us where people are quoting Travis' specific stats and projecting them to success at the MLB level in 2017? Because I've missed it if it's happened here on this thread.Listen, there's no reason not to be excited about a young prospect. However, that's not the point.
Also, picking apart the differences between Player A off injury in ST and Player B off injury in ST is the pure essence of nitpicking. We all know the Travis and Sizemore situations aren't the same. The point is to not get excited over spring training results in games where you don't know what players are giving 100%, if any pitchers are experimenting/rehabbing/working on something specific, any and all kinds of strategy isn't a factor, and the games literally do not matter.
Be excited because Sam Travis looks like he's recovered and he could fill a spot of potential need soon. Don't be excited because he hits .330 with power for a month where the results have been proven hundreds of times over to be completely irrelevant.
I'd imagine even there we wouldn't see Travis in Boston till summer. Still got Brock Holt in a pinch if needed.Anyway I, too, find myself excited about Travis and wonder what might happen with him if Hanley can't throw a baseball more than 60 feet before the end of camp. Might the Sox need another first baseman, or would they let Moreland have the position, platoon be damned?
All I could do for so long was just work out once I started. And so might as well go as hard as I can at it. And it made me want to work even harder to get back.
… I know I can leave the yard at any time …
I think now's a good time to discuss his 140 wRC+ with puny arms from Lowell through Double-A in various stages of age-advancedness. A dumbass scout called him "the next Paul Goldschmidt" (he did steal 19 bases), and observers at Indiana claimed he could outslug Kyle Schwarber in BP. He is the Greek God of Comps, and I'm rooting for him.Obviously the goal is to play in the big leagues for a long time, win a lot of championships …
Do you want to make more irrelevant responses, or are you okay with just this one?Do you want to show us where people are quoting Travis' specific stats and projecting them to success at the MLB level in 2017? Because I've missed it if it's happened here on this thread.
Listen, there's no reason not to be excited about a young prospect. However, that's not the point.
Also, picking apart the differences between Player A off injury in ST and Player B off injury in ST is the pure essence of nitpicking. We all know the Travis and Sizemore situations aren't the same. The point is to not get excited over spring training results in games where you don't know what players are giving 100%, if any pitchers are experimenting/rehabbing/working on something specific, any and all kinds of strategy isn't a factor, and the games literally do not matter.
Be excited because Sam Travis looks like he's recovered and he could fill a spot of potential need soon. Don't be excited because he hits .330 with power for a month where the results have been proven hundreds of times over to be completely irrelevant.
Did you hear? Sam Travis showed up in the best shape of his life.
"Noticeably larger biceps," it says.
No, it was a bad example. And it was pointed out that it was a bad example. That's all. I'm sure we all got the point of it, though, and I'm sure we could all name plenty of valid examples given a moment to think about it.Also, picking apart the differences between Player A off injury in ST and Player B off injury in ST is the pure essence of nitpicking
Not quite.Annual reminder that spring training stats and performances mean nothing.
If you google "Stephen Wright Red Sox" and click News, you get a bunch of articles: https://www.google.com/search?q=stephen+wright+red+sox&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=steven+wright+red+sox&tbm=nws&*This is more of a question than news. I have been looking in box scores to see whether Wright has begun pitching in a game yet. So far, I have not seen him make an appearance.
The latest article I could find (3 weeks old now) said he might pitch off the mound in "one week" (i.e. two weeks ago). Has anyone heard anything more recent than this?
JBJ is now #19
He made the change about a month back.Fan of Fred Lynn in CF
Let’s get to the uniform number first, because it’s kind of fun. The owner of No. 25 the past couple of years, Bradley is switching over to Koji Uehara’s vacant No. 19 this year because “April 19 is my birthday, my mom was in labor for 19 hours when she had me, Jackie Robinson was born in 1919 and because I wore it in college. Also, Fred Lynn wore that number and he was a very good player.”
That's too bad. I was a big fan of last year's Killer B math.JBJ is now #19
I liked this part the best...This was a fun read: NYT collects reaction to Chris Sale.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/sports/baseball/chris-sale-red-sox-yankees.html?hpw&rref=sports&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well
Mine was:I liked this part the best...
During the Franconia Administration, it came out that Pedey HATES to bat leadoff.Sounds like Benintendi may end up batting 3rd, per a tweet I saw this morning, in order to break up Bogaerts and Betts. But the lineup yesterday (against a RHP) was:
2b Pedroia
LF Benintendi
RF Betts
DH Ramirez
1b Moreland
SS Bogaerts
CB Bradley
3b Sandoval
C Swihart
That seems like a good L-R mixture. R-L-R-R-L-R-L-S-S
I think that lineup makes a lot of sense, and should produce a ton of runs, even without Ortiz. (I can't believe Ortiz isn't playing anymore....)
His stats batting leadoff last season say, "Bring the hate."During the Franconia Administration, it came out that Pedey HATES to bat leadoff.
Lifetime stats in the leadoff spot: .300/.354/.423/.777His stats batting leadoff last season say, "Bring the hate."
Pedey himself has said he has no idea where that idea came from and it isn't true.During the Franconia Administration, it came out that Pedey HATES to bat leadoff.
That's not his style. He'll just go out and hit 350 as his f.u.Franconia himself said Pedey hated it, but didn't want to make a change at that point, "because we're winning."
If I were in Pedey's spot right now, I'd claim I was misquoted and wonder where the press got that nonsense story. Because nothing good can come from commenting on it.
Bogie's not a whiner so I do think his comments were more about surprise than grumbling. Why hadn't Farrell addressed this I wonder. He specifically said that Farrell hadn't talked to him yet.I am worried about Bogaerts' response to being bumped down, though. "As long as I'm in the lineup, I guess"? Hopefully that didn't sound as bad when he said it as it looks on paper.