Yeah, 10-4 and a #6 ranking was a bitter disappointment in Harbaugh year two.
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10-3...don't make it worse!
Ohio St's defense is exhausted.
Can clemson give bama a game?
Clemson can play with Alabama if Watson can keep from turning the ball over. With the pressure they'll put on him, I don't know if he can do that.
Michigan had a billion seniors, a bunch of NFL prospects and eight home games. The results? Another loss to OSU. No B1G title. No playoff. Not even a bowl win. Zero out-of-state wins against teams not named "Rutgers." Gigantic failure.
Meyer took over a 6-7 team and didn't lose a regular season game his first two years. Tressel took over a team that had gone 6-7 and 8-4 the previous two years, beat Michigan each of his first two years including as a big dog on the road with a third-string QB making his first start and then won a national title in his second year. Poor St. Jimmy just has the deck stacked against him though.
Please. They lost 3 games by 5 points. Season was disappointing but not a reflection of poor coaching or anything like that. They had a bad offensive line yet managed to be in every game.
Michigan will be decent but very young next year and very good thereafter. All is well.
Urban has done a great great job at Ohio st. He's a phenomenal coach. But he also made his turnaround against Brady hoke and a PSU team under sanctions. Further, he took over a team that had down year, yes, but a great foundation of the tressel tattoo era. Far diff situation than fixing three years of hoke who is a MAC coach at best.
This is so stupid. Because Urban Meyer won a national title after taking over a team that had a single down season preceded by a zillion straight Big 10 titles every other coach's performance has to be measured against that? OK, I guess just about every other coach ever sucks.
Michigan was buried for years and now all you guys seem obsessed with them so Harbaugh has done his job.
But more to the point, they are basically never out of a game and look about as good as anyone they play and they are a hell of a lot of fun to watch and a hell of a lot of fun to follow again, but yeah they lost by three inches and you know what that is so I guess they are the suckiest suck in the history of suck.
Michigan continually could not close games in the final two minutes. So I'd say there should be some heat
The Winningest Program in College Football History and the Victors of the West are now reduced to saying they managed to be in every game in a season with a ton of seniors and eight home games. What a time to be alive.
Some heat? What does that even mean? Harbaugh on the hot seat?
Regardless, it wasn't really a question of coaching tactics. Offensive line was a huge weakness - they couldn't ice games.
I don't see many Michigan fans denying that the program was down for a long time.
What Clemson does with Hunter doesn't showcase his quickness IMO. I know the kid well. I think they will feature him over the next few years in a way that shows off his quickness more. He's actually starting to get the ball on screens and on short passes with some space. He didn't see much of those type of catches last year.
He's got really good lateral quickness, can change directions and juke running full speed and it doesn't look like he misses a step. Runs really good routes. That will get better. He needs to continue to put on good weight. He showed up at Clemson as a walkon at about 155. He's about 180 or so right now. Good kid, he'll stay all 4 years, so he'll be in the 2019 draft if he's worthy.
I'd say he's in the Edelman/Dola/Welker/Brown mode. When he's running after a catch he almost always makes a guy miss if he has a step or two to set up a move.
You've accomplished the impossible - making me miss Yammer. At least he's kind of witty.
Seriously, I'm a bit concerned about his well-being. Someone with his phone # please text and see if he's tOKay.
It's obviously more fun reminiscing over the win against Michigan than watching Clemson blank Ohio. It's even kind of painful for me to watch. Has Ohio gained more yards on penalties than rushing or passing?
Ohio State is getting its ass kicked tonight - all the credit to Clemson. Considering they're the youngest team in the country and lost five first-round picks this year and 12 overall and still demolished Oklahoma on the road, won at Wisconsin, beat Michigan again and made the playoff, I'd say it's not all that bad.
Ohio st will be very good next year - no doubt
Edit: any thoughts on my Barrett question? Genuinely curious to get your take
any chance Washington moves up #3 in the final rankings? They at least nearly covered Alabama except for a pick 6.
At first I thought the decision to intercept the ball was bad.
Then I thought the decision to run the INT out of the endzone was maybe worse.
Now I realized I couldn't see any of the damn field and was wrong on both counts. Anyway, ballgame. Time for some CodeWords.
Then I thought the decision to run the INT out of the endzone was maybe worse.
Now I realized I couldn't see any of the damn field and was wrong on both counts. Anyway, ballgame. Time for some CodeWords.
Very clever play, Dabo. Great execution.
I didn't think Clemson had a shot against Alabama last year, but I think they do this year.
Amusingly, the wikipedia page has already given the game to Clemson.
I didn't think Clemson had a shot against Alabama last year, but I think they do this year.
Amusingly, the wikipedia page has already given the game to Clemson.
Clemson fought so hard last year in that game - would be great to see them do it again and get the W
The line has been pretty bad in protection. Prince has been a big liability and Jordan has a lot of talent but has gone through freshman growing pains. They lost three OL starters (including a first-rounder), Elliott, Thomas, Vannett, Miller and Marshall - I don't think even Alabama could replace that in a year. Elflein and Price are the only other two returning offensive starters - that's a ton of turnover.
He's still a very good player, but his freshman year was the perfect storm of great coaching and surrounding talent.
With all due respect to the OSU o-line, the youth really wouldn't matter. Clemson's d line has been wrecking everyone they've played. Lawrence needs a double, sometimes a triple to keep him out of the backfield. Wilkins is a legit beast. It's allowed Bret to rush 3, drop 8 and really put pressure in ways Clemson hasn't the last few years.