2016 NFL Draft: Day 2, Rounds 2-3

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This punchable Carrot Top look alike is a Broncos fan, young banker, excited about the Lynch pick, and thinks Goodell is a "great all-around nice guy" and does not deserve all the boos he's been getting. (NFL's Dameshek on the right).
That's the kid from the Make A Wish Foundation who got to announce the Lynch pick last night. He's battling a terminal illness. Harsh, dude.
 

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Guess we need a backup for JG for the first four weeks. LOL. I don't know why I bother with the draft. Year in year out, seems like so many missed opportunities.
 

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As of right now, they need a backup QB for 4 weeks. Cheaper to pay a 3rd round pick than the rate for a veteran. I would've gone with Hogan, because Cook has total anti-Pats vibe (no captaincy as s senior QB?)
 

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Hope he's excited to be a captain for the Jets in a meaningless game against the Pats in like 6 years.
 

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That's the kid from the Make A Wish Foundation who got to announce the Lynch pick last night. He's battling a terminal illness. Harsh, dude.
Oh shit, that's all on me. I switched to NFLN and didn't catch the beginning. Take back everything about the handsome, courageous young man.
 

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It's shocking every year how high people's expectations are for draft picks at the end of the third round. The vast majority of the guys being picked right now will be failures. It's like getting mad that you didn't win powerball. Are you expecting them to be drafting pro bowlers or 10 year starters right now?
 

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I have said it's worked pretty well. Except when we run into a defense in the playoffs that can put pressure on Brady, and suffocate our little slot guys, but I digress.

I've got basically no issues with this management team. I just believe when folks look back on Brady's career and they see this outlier of a season where he and the team went through the NFL like a hot knife through butter, why not try the blueprint that worked so well that year at least one more time? It's pretty damn evident to everyone what the difference was that year to every other, and it's the outside weapon.

And let's not forget, there was no Rob Gronkowski in 2007. You put an outside threat on this team, with Gronk and the slot guys, and I don't know how you stop them. I'm willing to absord the cap pain for one season to see what happens with a guy like Dez, or even a Brandon Marshall, or whoever...I'm just fine winning games 55-34.

I'm actually glad Miller got taken. I think someone is going to break him in half in the NFL. Would love to see the Pats take a flier on the hometown kid, Tajae Sharpe from UMASS, personally.
Brady's outside deep ball accuracy has been not good for years. I mean, sure, if they could get 2007 Randy Moss for a 4th again they should do it, but I fine with building the offense the way they have. Adding Bennett was a great fit IMHO.
 

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I wonder if the Pats got wind that someone like CLE (or maybe DET?) was interested in Brissett and took him there instead of waiting until 96? That's all I got.
 

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It's shocking every year how high people's expectations are for draft picks at the end of the third round. The vast majority of the guys being picked right now will be failures. It's like getting mad that you didn't win powerball. Are you expecting them to be drafting pro bowlers or 10 year starters right now?
The same comments are made every year by our resident draft experts.
 
Not pulling your chain, but I've heard this too. Please provide evidence. When he was on with Jon Gruden, he denied ever saying anything of the sort. You got contrary sources other than unnamed?
There are no official sources on the record. But it was all over the NFL scouting reports that use only "anonymous" sources. Klemko reported it here in SI, saying two front office executives told him "when asked to explain his declining sophomore and junior numbers … Hackenberg has shifted blame to Coach James Franklin."

Another scout told either Kiper or McShay the same thing (I forget which one was talking about it the other night). I highly doubt they'd all being spreading that story if Hackenberg didn't say it.
 

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I've got basically no issues with this management team. I just believe when folks look back on Brady's career and they see this outlier of a season where he and the team went through the NFL like a hot knife through butter, why not try the blueprint that worked so well that year at least one more time? It's pretty damn evident to everyone what the difference was that year to every other, and it's the outside weapon.
They had Moss in 2009, too, and weren't as successful. Some of that was Brady coming off ACL and some was maybe a little decline from Moss, but the other issue was Sam Aiken was their other starter on the outside because they weren't going to spend $40 MM on WRs. Everything kind of fell together with the WRs in 2007 because Moss, Stallworth, and Welker all came pretty cheap, but that's a tough formula to replicate.
 

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Brady's outside deep ball accuracy has been not good for years. I mean, sure, if they could get 2007 Randy Moss for a 4th again they should do it, but I fine with building the offense the way they have. Adding Bennett was a great fit IMHO.
I don't know how you can truly judge Brady's outside deep ball when he's throwing it to guys that aren't even average NFL wide receivers. Throwing one deep ball a game to Matthew Slater or whoever that other guy was last year that came in for one play a week, that lands incomplete or hoping guys like Lafell run the right routes doesn't exactly lead me to make any conclusions about Brady. In fact, Brady's deep ball accuracy is about the absolute last reason I would choose to not get an outside deep threat.
 

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Brady's outside deep ball accuracy has been not good for years. I mean, sure, if they could get 2007 Randy Moss for a 4th again they should do it, but I fine with building the offense the way they have. Adding Bennett was a great fit IMHO.
Especially to Brady's right side. The completion/success rates on anything over 15 to the right sideline is putrid.
 

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It's shocking every year how high people's expectations are for draft picks at the end of the third round. The vast majority of the guys being picked right now will be failures. It's like getting mad that you didn't win powerball. Are you expecting them to be drafting pro bowlers or 10 year starters right now?
I don't think anyone here is expecting pro bowlers, but I don't know about anyone else. For me, I'd like to see them pick some guys with an actual shot at making the team, filling a depth need, or not picking guys that will be available 2 rounds from now.
 

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It's shocking every year how high people's expectations are for draft picks at the end of the third round. The vast majority of the guys being picked right now will be failures. It's like getting mad that you didn't win powerball. Are you expecting them to be drafting pro bowlers or 10 year starters right now?
No one's doing that. Come on now.
 

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As of right now, they need a backup QB for 4 weeks. Cheaper to pay a 3rd round pick than the rate for a veteran. I would've gone with Hogan, because Cook has total anti-Pats vibe (no captaincy as s senior QB?)
That may be true about Cook, but Michigan State didnt seem like a team where head cases were allowed to run amok. They weren't the U. And I hadn't heard anything about Cook's leadership or attitude at all until NFL scouts started harping on it.
Then again, MSU may cover things up well. They had that one player, Bullough, suspended for the Rose Bowl and I don't think people know why, even to this day.
 

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Hate to say it, but I think Miami and Buffalo are both having fantastic drafts. Very curious to see how they finish up.
 

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I wonder if the Pats got wind that someone like CLE (or maybe DET?) was interested in Brissett and took him there instead of waiting until 96? That's all I got.
Who knows on Brissett, Two weeks ago Mel Kiper said he might sneak into the 2nd, and various others (Chad Reuter from nfl.com is one) has him as a second or 3rd at various points.
 

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No one's doing that. Come on now.
Yeah, but each year at this point in the draft, everyone's pulling for them to take, say, some Akron State Right Guard or Arkansas Wide Receiver, like everyone here's dedicated much of their time closely following the Akron State offensive line or the Arkansas offense.