Yoshida to IL

[soxhop411]

View: https://twitter.com/bradfo/status/1785739379954090432
Hopefully its not a long term injury as he was just starting to get his swing back at the plate

 

[Sandy Leon Trotsky]

View: https://twitter.com/bradfo/status/1785739379954090432

Guessing the 15 day? Just insane, and of course.... just as soon as he seemed to be getting his offense back on track. Entire infield including DH now....

 

[JBJ_HOF]

10 ILs for position players

 

[InsideTheParker]

I have nothing intelligent to add, surprise, surprise, except multiple curse words.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

Hoping it's not too serious, and if not it might actually be a bit of a blessing. There was some discussion whether he was struggling with the length and rigors of the MLB schedule and travel last year. This gives him a break, with no judgment or stigma of being "benched," and maybe keeps him fresh for later parts of the year.

Obviously, I'm grasping for good news and losing any additional player to the IL right now kind of sucks. But, whatever, maybe some silver lining.

 

[AlNipper49]

At this point the Sox better take out an insurance policy on Wally.

 

[joe dokes]

At this point the Sox better take out an insurance policy on Wally.

Or use him as a sacrificial offering.

 

[Sox Pride]

So let me get this straight

Sox DL (or IL or whatevs):

DH Yoshida
C Heineman
1B Casas
2B Grissom
SS Story
3B (wait - Devers didn't need to go on the DL - just dealt with the pain

SP Giolito
SP Pivetta
SP Bello
SP Whitlock.


What's the matter? We don't have any outfielders?
Oh Yeah -
2B/OF R Gonzalez

And I guess we can put Yoshida out there.

 

[simplicio]

Murphy as a SP too, that's a full rotation.

 

[Sox Pride]

Murphy as a SP too, that's a full rotation.

Chris Murphy, Brian Mata - someone gets to start and someone else gets to swing.

 

[Bigdogx]

The DL list is getting bigger then the actual roster....

 

[Rovin Romine]

So let me get this straight

Added some stuff:

C Heineman
1B Casas
2B Grissom
SS Story
3B Devers didn't go on the IL - shoulder/knee: 10 games lost out of 30.
2B/OF R Gonzalez

SP Giolito
SP Pivetta
SP Bello
SP Whitlock
SP Murphy

RP Campbell
RP Hendricks
RP Mata

OF/DH Yoshida
OF Refsnyder - now back. broken toe, 19 games lost out of 30.
OF O'Neill - now back. concussion - 6 games lost out of 30.

 

[BaseballJones]

Seeing all those people injured....someone is going to complain that the Sox lack depth, and uh, yeah, they lack depth when essentially an entire roster has been injured. No team can really withstand this kind of thing.

 

[billy ashley]

Like, I think the Miami Heat have had worse luck with injuries this year, but that's about it.

 

[mikeford]

Seeing all those people injured....someone is going to complain that the Sox lack depth, and uh, yeah, they lack depth when essentially an entire roster has been injured. No team can really withstand this kind of thing.

They're doing a pretty good job of it tbh

 

[BaseballJones]

They're doing a pretty good job of it tbh

In the very short term, yes. Not likely to hold up over the long run.

 

[Bigdogx]

A sure fire drinking game that would result in severe intoxication would be to require red sox fans to take a shot when they cant guess the red sox batter at the plate! I was seriously having trouble with over 80% of the field roster....

 

[koufax32]

Or use him as a sacrificial offering.

We used to sacrifice lurkers to the gods of BABIP around here. Maybe it’s time to bring that back?

 

[Fishy1]

In the very short term, yes. Not likely to hold up over the long run.

Yeah, it's an open question how long the injuries will continue, though. You can't be sure they'll continue, I mean. It's possible that there's more, but besides Story and Giolito, no one is projected to be out for the year.

Cooper is back in the lineup today, Grissom is due back Friday, Pivetta is getting his only rehab start today and should come back Tuesday, and they're targeting May 12 for Bello. Romy is due back sometimes next week as well. Campbell is throwing again as well.

It obviously sucks that they've had so many injuries so early in the season, but hopefully they'll get a stretch where they're healthy, and for now, the depth actually looks pretty great from my end.

Yoshida I still haven't seen anything concrete on. MRI was yesterday.

 

[Rovin Romine]

Yeah, it's an open question how long the injuries will continue, though.

That's really the issue here. Right now the pitching is a strength. They certainly seem to have enough depth to bridge to the returning players - Pivetta, Bello. Whitlock is always a question mark at this point.

**

The big defensive loss was Story, which has been mitigated by Ceddanne at SS and generally good OF play from the remaining four: Duran, O'Neill, Abreu, Refsnyder.

**

The big offensive losses are Casas (at least 60 days), maybe Story, and maybe Yoshida. Devers and O'Neill are back, apparently none-the-worse for wear.

Casas's bat is going to be tough to replace. Cooper/Smith are going to be a downgrade. The only question is how much of one. Well, and also, how much might that downgrade be offset elsewhere? Two areas I think:

- I am hopeful Grissom will be an upgrade over Valdez (decent defense(!), awful LH bat.)
- I am hopeful Ceddanne can hit his way into relevance, since he's a lineup certainty at this point.

Other than that, guys are going to have ups and downs and not everyone will stay hot over the whole season. Which is fine and normal. But I think we've seen that Devers, O'Neill, Refsnyder, Wong/McGuire, Abreu, and Duran all have the ability to really deliver at the plate. Which is much better than two mainstays and a bunch of question marks.

 

[Ale Xander]

Added some stuff:

C Heineman
1B Casas
2B Grissom
SS Story
3B Devers didn't go on the IL - shoulder/knee: 10 games lost out of 30.
2B/OF R Gonzalez

SP Giolito
SP Pivetta
SP Bello
SP Whitlock
SP Murphy

RP Campbell
RP Hendricks
RP Mata

OF/DH Yoshida
OF Refsnyder - now back. broken toe, 19 games lost out of 30.
OF O'Neill - now back. concussion - 6 games lost out of 30.

I believe Liam was injured/recovering when he was signed, not fair to have him on that list

 

[DeadlySplitter]

View: https://twitter.com/IanMBrowne/status/1786049742755021265

 

[YTF]

Read on MassLive that he's going to see a hand specialist.

 

[YTF]

Has there any mention of the suspected cause of the injury or any specifics as to what part of his hand is bothering him?

 

[Max Power]

Has there any mention of the suspected cause of the injury or any specifics as to what part of his hand is bothering him?

They said he was "jammed on a pitch" and the hand swelled up. Then the pain and swelling didn't go away like expected.

 

[YTF]

They said he was "jammed on a pitch" and the hand swelled up. Then the pain and swelling didn't go away like expected.

Yeah, that's the last I knew of it as well. IFAIK he wasn't hit, right? I wonder if he did something it that area where the base of the thumb and and the wrist meet. Dislocation perhaps or something on the other side near the hamate. Seems those areas might be the most affected from the perspective of gripping or swinging a bat.

 

[simplicio]

They mentioned his thumb specifically.

 

[Rovin Romine]

Yeah, that's the last I knew of it as well. IFAIK he wasn't hit, right? I wonder if he did something it that area where the base of the thumb and and the wrist meet. Dislocation perhaps or something on the other side near the hamate. Seems those areas might be the most affected from the perspective of gripping or swinging a bat.

He wasn't hit by a pitch. The swing looked clean and he didn't show any immediate pain or discomfort afterward.

I know you can break a hamite by swinging a bat - happened to Yu Chang just last year. But that's the base of the hand on the pinky side, not the base of thumb. And, for whatever it's worth, Chang knew immediately.

Yoshida probably knew fairly soon since he was PH for in the following AB.

But I think that's all we've got at this point.

 

[joe dokes]

Did Youkilis hurt the base of the thumb area swinging? He did have surgery that year.

 

[YTF]

Did Youkilis hurt the base of the thumb area swinging? He did have surgery that year.

Took a quick look and it seems that he injured the right thumb on a line out in early August of 2010. Initially it was called a jammed thumb and soon after diagnosed as a tear of the adductor muscle in the thumb. And you are correct, he had surgery a couple of days after. It looks like the adductor muscle is located somewhere in the web area between the thumb and forefinger.

 

[joe dokes]

Took a quick look and it seems that he injured the right thumb on a line out in early August of 2010. Initially it was called a jammed thumb and soon after diagnosed as a tear of the adductor muscle in the thumb. And you are correct, he had surgery a couple of days after. It looks like the adductor muscle is located somewhere in the web area between the thumb and forefinger.

Ahh...thanks. I remember the surgery, just not how the injury occurred. (I was flying home with family with a connection in Cleveland. Youk was on the Cleve-Boston flight, maybe 1-2 days post surgery. It was a regional jet and he was just crammed into a seat. He was much bigger in person than I ever thought. His arm was in a sling and he looked absolutely miserable.)

 

[InsideTheParker]

Any word on Masa? Going to need surgery? Rest?
I guess if there were word it would be here, but I am getting anxious about him.

 

[moondog80]

Any word on Masa? Going to need surgery? Rest?
I guess if there were word it would be here, but I am getting anxious about him.

I think I saw that he is getting a second opinion this week? Which I guess suggests the first opinion wasn't very promising?

 

[beautokyo]

From the RedSox site.

May 10: DH Masataka Yoshida to avoid surgery
Yoshida received a second and third opinion on his sprained left thumb this week, and the good news is that he will not have to undergo surgery. However, it is expected to be several weeks at least until Yoshida returns to action. The left-handed hitter last played for the Red Sox on April 28.
"Yeah, no surgery, so that's good news," said Red Sox manager Alex Cora. "Now we’ve just got to wait. Obviously treatment, and see how he feels in a few weeks. We go from there. No baseball activities, I mean, no swinging. At least we know at one point he's going to be available and he's going to be able to help us.”