Last time my son's team went to JP it was early in the season and we were able to sit outside the pool area and it was glorious to get out of the sauna.
We were in Lake Placid for less than 10 minutes when 6 boys were in my room knocking shit over. I poured a drink and went outside..Not happening here. It has been in the high 30's low 40's during the day so far. The pool outisde is open but has ice on it. Seems like someone messed that up.
Great place, definitely the best tournament experience we've had so far.
Although my room has become the designated knee hockey arena, which is less than ideal.
Those moments are great and that's awesome for your son, congrats!Tournament victory! My son had the GWG in their last pool game which was effectively a semi-final- the winner played for the championship. He got team MVP for the game and he was really excited. Such a great tournament experience. We enjoyed it far more than Waterville.
Funny story: one of the cooks at one of the restaurants was outside smoking a cigarette and he was joking around with one of the older brothers of one of the kids on our team who happened to be out there. The kid told him he shouldn't smoke cigarettes and the guy jokingly asked him if he wanted to try one. Well the kid told all my son's team that and they thought it was hilarious and took to calling him "Ciggy man." He became the unofficial mascot of the Flames and they chanted "ciggy man" as a team on the way out of the locker room and on the ice after they won the title. I'm sure the other teams parents were very confused.
Thank you, it was really fun.Those moments are great and that's awesome for your son, congrats!
Also the "ciggy man" thing is funny and something that just organically brings a team together. Our goalie situation has been...tough...this season. One of our kids was heading heading back to his room while walking with our goalie. They passed the goalies room on the way and it had his doorhanger thing that was made for each kid on the door. Our player was like, your last name is "insertpopularnoodlebrandhere" which he had no idea, I don't think anyone did. He quickly dubbed him "noodles" and an nickname was born and the team came together around it.
I actually dont get the bolded part. Why are those other absences OK and your sons was not? Was it specifically because he was picking a different sporting activity over the club event?Also- mean to pass a story along that I thought encompassed some of the challenges of youth hockey in MA today.
I've been very happy with the club team my son plays on...he's got a very knowledgeable coach who really appreciates him and the competition isn't going to get much better, even leaving our little island for a team somewhere off cape. I don't know that I love the program as a whole, but they do a pretty good job and my son's specific team makes it well worth it, despite the hefty price tag (that necessitated me getting a summer job...of course that job was working at my local rink driving the 'boni, so not terrible).
Last week my son's town team had a playdown game (for the uninformed, it's basically a one game playoff to qualify for the state tournament) at home on
Tuesday night. We have a few kids from the town team on the club team and we got a notice from the club team that we would be expected to attend the club practice that night over the playdown game...the contract we signed stated we pick club over all other events. I called the head of the club and he explained (understandably) that they need to hold people to the contract, otherwise what are they worth.
I said I get it, but we were playing in the game. I was told that next time this happened my son would be suspended- after all they couldn't make exceptions, otherwise everyone would skip. While I completely understand this perspective, I raised the point that we had attended every practice or game, and there were kids who miss a practice every week...or how about the kid that didn't go to Lake Placid and then spent 3 weeks in Florida? I was told that was fine, but what my son was doing was not. I get it, I really do, but that's so fucking dumb. These are 11 year olds, let's be reasonable here. But whatever.
My son had the GWG and got the empty netter to send our town to states in front of around 150 fans including friends, families, and the hockey community at large. It was everything that Massachusetts hockey is about.
Ugh, the kid in my daughter's Mayor's Cup game did this on Saturday, clearly instructed to, and to top it off, kicked the goal out every single time, costing us at least one goal. Really pissed my daughter off, though she did get our teams only two goals. Time for her to practice lifting that puck.Only complaint I have is the opposing coach that instructed his goalie to lay down across the net in the playoff game over the wknd. The kids couldn’t lift the puck over him and just seemed out of touch with what the intent of hockey at the U6 level should be.
I don't blame the club team. It stinks for your kid and its dumb that the practice outweighs the game, but it's understandable for them.I think the issue was we were missing the event for a different hockey event. I still think that’s dumb, but whatever.
And yeah, something like this bothers me too…I’m not going to raise a stink (although maybe I should). He’s got one more year left until he needs to switch to short season anyways, so we’ll see what next year looks like and go from there.
It’s all very silly though
Yes this makes sense. Couple kids on my son's squirt team are out of control with it.Just don’t let her start flipping the puck- bad habit to get into young. Good form will eventually pay off once she# stronger
I never said it wasn’t understandable, in fact I repeatedly mentioned that I understood. I was just telling a story to demonstrate some of the serious flaws in the way youth sports are run.I don't blame the club team. It stinks for your kid and its dumb that the practice outweighs the game, but it's understandable for them.
This kind of stuff isn't just youth hockey. There are kids that will play for their town little league team just to ensure they get enough games in to qualify, and then bail on remaining games/practices and join more competitive regional teams trying out for the LLWS. While it's the inverse of your situation, I think it's a relevant example. Your son tried out for a club team and took a spot from another kid who wanted to make the team. Prioritizing that club over other hockey teams feels OK to me.
Well. I never played hockey and was trying to get my kids to elevate their shot a few weeks ago. They weren't getting it, so I taught them to flip it. Now I'm immediately regretting that decision.Just don’t let her start flipping the puck- bad habit to get into young. Good form will eventually pay off once she# stronger
I meant one more year after this.@Dummy Hoy - One thing that stuck out in your other post that I forgot to come back to, you mentioned he's 11 and this is his last year before "shortened season". I'm curious what you meant by that. My son is 14 and playing his last year of full year bantams before planning to play a half year midget team prior to playing for the High School next year (and this is only because CT CIAC doesnt allow rostering for a HS team and any other team in the same "season").
What does a shortened season mean for 12 yr olds?
Do we think Lovell would try to get his programs into the Fed?I've heard similar stories from a friend who coaches 2011's. He said he was offering almost 20 kids but only reasonably expects 9-10 because of all the flux. Sounds fun!
The drama in the 2015s is at all all time high. Rumors about Lovell pulling out of E9 all together, the Butler super team destroying a bunch of the other elite teams and the remaining elite railers leaving the organization the weekend before tryouts. Craziness! Even more than normal.
Well they don't exist anymore so problem solved. Most of those kids moved to the Flames elite.I just looked up that ‘15 e9 standings. That Railers team doesn’t help themselves or anyone else being that dominant.
I have no idea, I just know the chatter out there is they are leaving e9. That 2015 WC team is bananas so I imagine they want to go to Quebec in three years.Do we think Lovell would try to get his programs into the Fed?
I know 2013s have some movement away from Winter Club (and Advantage too if rumors are true) as people want to get in on the Quebec tournament. Parents be crazy though. I have a friend whose kid will be on his 3rd program in 3 years...how is that helping anyone?
The railers side is not quite correct. Bobby didn't go to the flames. He has been recruiting the best kids in the age group to play on an independent team called the Worcester Shamrocks that resembles the brick team. My guess is going 1-7 against Fed elite and 0-a billion against winter club was the reason. His move was the catalyst for all of this. He's still the head of the railers. That team is going to likely take the railers 2014 e9 slot, after he released the 2014 2nd team (informed speculation but have heard some conflicting info) but my guess is the long play is to get a team into the Fed for the Quebec Tournament in 3 years. He took only 2 kids off of the 2015 elite railers team and left the 12 others behind. Those kids had been recruited and brought in from other organizations for the last 3 years specifically to play with him. When he left, they were pissed and (rightfully imo) were disenchanted by staying with the organization.I know a number of people involved with the 2015 kerfuffle directly (on both sides of it).
The Flames team had 12-15 kids committed via contract for next season. They were all told the Saturday before tryouts that a new coach was being brought in and that they were no longer guaranteed spot … but that they could go to tryouts. That team wasn’t particularly strong but was moving in the right direction after a few years of being non-competitive.
Some of those parents talked with a new coach of the team, who apparently was not Butler. However, he (Butler) played with the Flames organization growing up and, I assume knows the Flames owner (Larue Renfroe) personally. Take that for what it’s worth.
My guess is they (2015 Railers) were not given the ok to play up with the E9 2014s after having released their own organization’s team, and then moved on to a carcass that could be easily picked. Any way you slice it, it’s a shit move by Renfroe, an 86 year old multi-millionaire who does very little to maintain the dump of a facility that he owns. I can only imagine if the shoe were on the other foot.
The 2015 Railers were very good team by E9 standards. However, they were beat in tourneys by non-E9 teams quite regularly.
Youth / club hockey at its finest.
It's so insane. I'm so tired of the system that caters to ladder climbers and grifters who have no compunction about using kids to bolster their own credentials. And it feeds right into the FOMO/one-upmanship that permeates much of upper middle class parents in MA. I'm sure other sports have their issues too, but hockey is ugly in a lot of ways. Greatest sport in the world but it attracts some of the worst people.10u baby.
Advantage 13 coach is going to Breakers with a bunch of his players along with a couple Terriers and others. The Q isn’t the tournament it once was…any team that wants to go can write a check and go(see Top Gun). A lot of the teams in AAA are super teams that were formed specifically for the tournament, which makes what Mid Fairfield just did up there all the more impressive.Do we think Lovell would try to get his programs into the Fed?
I know 2013s have some movement away from Winter Club (and Advantage too if rumors are true) as people want to get in on the Quebec tournament. Parents be crazy though. I have a friend whose kid will be on his 3rd program in 3 years...how is that helping anyone?
I agree, but in his defense, I will say that he is doing all of this for his son, who is an incredible player. Would I cause this much upheaval for my kid when he could just go play for the Islanders elite? Probably not, but everyone has their thing.It's so insane. I'm so tired of the system that caters to ladder climbers and grifters who have no compunction about using kids to bolster their own credentials. And it feeds right into the FOMO/one-upmanship that permeates much of upper middle class parents in MA. I'm sure other sports have their issues too, but hockey is ugly in a lot of ways. Greatest sport in the world but it attracts some of the worst people.