I don't think anyone wants to pay Barnes the sort of money it takes to meet the trade rules. Maybe Brooklyn if they get desperate enough. But we're discussing something like 4/95 for Harrison Barnes to make the deal work, if you're OKC that's a recipe for disaster. They're better off with a sign & trade for nothing so that they can generate a large TPE.
Barnes is getting maxed this off-season, almost guaranteed. Maybe OKC doesn't want him, but if you're losing Durant and trying to get Westbrook to stay Barnes probably makes sense.
Barnes would be the type of player someone like Brooklyn pays when they can't lure anyone else. As a fan of the team holding their '17 and '18 unprotected draft pick I could not be more happier with Jeff Green Reincarnate ending up a Net.
That's what the Lakers thought when they acquired Dwight Howard. Neither KD nor Curry is a raging asshole like Howard or Kobe, but team chemistry can also go awry in more subtle ways.
I would think the Celtics would have additional options on the floor not available to him in college.
Vlade supposedly loves Hield, but WCS is the only thing he has to bridge the value gap from 3 to 8 that should interest Ainge. 8 is also a good spot for Skal, who has been rumored to be a target for DA.
Agree completely about Bender, and I'm relatively bullish on Dunn. Bender's likely further away from contributing than the other guys (Brown excepted), but if the scouting reports I've read are accurate, agile, hard-nosed, high IQ, 7-foot 18 year-olds who can pass and shoot don't come around too often. I expect they'll trade the pick, but I'd be excited to watch Bender progress with the Celtics.
I'd be stunned if they want Hield, given how highly they value versatility. Find a shooter elsewhere who has already proven he can step in and do it. Hield does no good for us if he's on the Redick path to NBA relevance.
That would work for me too.
Oh, I'm sure that Golden State would love the pick, they're just not giving you Curry, Thompson, or Green for it. I'm also positive they could trade it for more above average players, but they already have 17 of those guys. When you have pick # n+1 in an N player draft your trade options shrink considerably.
Right. Just not down to the extremely limited pool you mentioned.
I wouldn't mind this, but I would see about screwing an extra first round pick out of the Kings in the process. Cauley-Stein would be a huge boost on the defensive end for Boston even if the pickings at #8 are going to be slimmer. It might put Marquis Chriss on the table for them.
I'd guess it's more likely that there isn't a trade at all. Much like #6 a couple of years back I'm sure they'll try, but there won't be any all stars available for the pick and Boston will end up using it on someone like Jamal Murray.
That's the sort of deal that I think is most likely if there's a trade, and if they can pick up an extra lottery pick and Hield I'm all for it.
Then call them first. And I know Redick is an easy target, but essentially adding a guy for free that can hit 40% of his threes isn't a bad thing. Hield will have some deficiencies but I think Stevens will be able to find ways to use him if that's where we go.
Yeah, I'm totally on board with trying to get WCS who, from what I've read, looks like he's passed the first year test toward becoming a quality starting center. Here's a recent scouting report on him from a few months ago:
The rumors are that there are a lot of guards on the Kings' wish list, none of whom will be available #8. By then what will be available are more of what they already have. When you have the Boogieman backup C isn't a priority. Unless they're looking to trade Cousins and make Cauley-Stein the starting center, I'm OK with that.
This is where I am as well. I doubt Suckramento wants to trade him, but if they did, I suspect it would be at least #3 and #16 (without the #8 coming back), or maybe #3 plus a player (Smart, Bradley).
In general he did, but not against Villanova, likely the most talented and athletic opponent that Oklahoma faced. He was terrible in that game, especially in the first half when the game was still in reach. Tough to define a guy by one game, but I think that is where a lot of the concern about how he will perform against NBA-level defenders comes from.
I think the odds of landing a veteran all star with the third pick in a two man draft are roughly equivalent to their odds two years ago when they were shopping the sixth pick in a similar scenario. Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong did (Dallas making the playoffs, landing the third pick, Chicago's owners overruling management on the Butler front, etc.) so Boston may need to readjust their target date for summer 2017 with Brooklyn the early favourite to be the worst team in the NBA next year.
Here's a youtube video on Bender covering all aspects of his game. It's long, but there's plenty to see. Video clips kick in a few minutes into video.
We took Butler off our list here because the Bulls sent him to the lottery. The Kings sent WCS.
My point was more that there were a lot of posts here talking about Butler, then someone posts "Butler is going to lottery" and then everyone changed their mind.
The Kings are desperate for a player like Hield and already have DMC at center. (Or WCS if they would be willing to trade Boogie.) They might want another pick, but the one thing the Celtics have in abundance is late first/early second draft picks. So that should not hold up a trade.
They really are the one wildcard team. They're like the Billy King Nets in that the most useful tool for predicting their next move is a Magic 8 Ball.
